"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson (1913)David Livingstone said ...
"The Pharisees rejected Christ. They practiced a naturalistic religion that turned Christ's message on its head. Man is God, rules the universe, and defines reality. We can indulge our desires. Dating back to Zoroastrianism, the Jewish Cabala reverses the roles of God and Lucifer and embraces occult symbols, rituals and blood sacrifices.This is the Cosmic Struggle between Spirit and Matter: God will be Immanent; Matter will resist. This is the conflict between God (the view that man is unfinished, and dependent on Divine revelation) and Lucifer (man is already god.)
The Cabalists secretly dedicated themselves to destroying Christianity and Western civilization. In 1773 Amschel Mayer Rothschild convened a meeting of 12 prominent Jewish bankers and other prominent Jewish personalities and submitted a programme to level the social order using the contradictory promise of "liberty" and "equality." In 1776, they had Adam Weishaupt organize the Order of the Illuminati, which merged with Freemasonry in 1782. Freemasonry is Cabala and, in the words of Andre Krylienko, (The Red Thread) it was "launched for the purpose of enlisting non-Jews consciously or unconsciously in the service of Jewry." (p.93)
The Illuminati was behind the revolutionary movements of the 18th -- 20th Century as well as their respective reigns of terror. The bankers used their power to spread their Satanic convictions. They had finagled a monopoly on credit (usurping the government's right to create money) and they needed to control the world in order to protect this prize.
Their influence on world history can be seen in the story of the red hexagram, commonly known as the "Star of David." According to researcher Fritz Springmeier, the Star of David was not associated with Jews until the Rothschilds adopted it as their symbol in 1822. The Rothschilds were considered the leaders of the Jews but I don't know if the Jews knew the Rothschilds were Satanists. The Star of David is really "The Seal of Solomon," an occult symbol for the Satanic. Solomon worshipped the star "Astoreth."
Before we feel smug, the Great Seal of the United States is also a Masonic symbol. According to Eustace Mullins, the top of the pyramid is missing to indicate that they have not yet put into operation the final stages of their conspiracy. "The eye represents that Great Architect of the Universe, a cabalist concept; it is enclosed in a triangle which is the symbol of magic. The thirteen steps refer to Satan, Belial and rebellion..." (The Curse of Canaan, 141) The inscription "Novo Ordo Seclorum" means "New Secular Order."Mullins says the leading international bankers were motivated by freemasonry: "From the year 1776, Freemasonry has been an omnipresent international government operating treasonably from within the United States, and it has exercised those powers ever since." (140)
Without fanfare, Freemasonry is being introduced as the New World Religion. We are being brainwashed with it every day. So you need to know that:
Freemasonry is a religion that believes Lucifer is the "God of light and God of good, struggling for humanity against Adonay, God of darkness and evil."
It is a secret society that demands adherents swear blind obedience on pain of death before they even know what it represents.
It practices deception. It reserves its truths for the adept; the initiate is "intentionally mislead by false interpretations."
It preaches "tolerance" and the universality of all religions in order to negate them all. Christianity is especially abjured. "Universality does not mean Christianity." (Quotes from Masonic Texts from Gary Kah, En Route to Global Occupation pp.120-140)
Freemasonry is taught to your child. For example, a survey of schools in my city shows that 75% no longer use the word "Christmas" to describe their holiday season festivities. Instead Christmas has been replaced with such jargon as "winter concerts" and "international celebration of holidays."
The Christmas tree at the Legislature was renamed "multicultural tree" until a storm of protest forced the politicians to relent.
"We have to abandon our culture in order to respect everyone else's? It's kind of silly." one parent complained.
But this is exactly the agenda: To destroy Christianity, just as they have destroyed empires, nations, heterosexual identities and nuclear families. The agenda is to strip people of power and identity leaving us defenceless in the face of one-world tyranny.
The lesson of this story is that God is indispensable. He is Reality. We cannot deny Him without denying the principle of our own fulfillment. A secular world order is prey to the devil. This is impasse we are in. We are ruled by a satanic cult.
Some things we can do: 1) boycott the mass media; 2) "out" politicians, teachers and media figures who are pushing the freemason agenda; 3) refuse to hate other people or fight other countries; 4) celebrate the things the Masons hate -- nationhood (internationalism causes war) heterosexual identities, nuclear families, Christianity and God. - David Livingstone
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So what do you propose us agnostics and atheists do to counter zionism, DV?
Please read this entire thread on P6 where James R. Maclean holds forth on Israel's role in the TEP.
D.v you cant actually be this intelluctual and still be a Christian. Are you guys Christians?
I don't see how being a Christian is anti-intellectual. In fact, the belief that you are about to intellectualize anything, including the mysteries of the world, means that you have adopted the same view as the people referenced in DV's post. (i.e., "Man controls the universe.)
Now, that's to say that thinking people shoudl critique, analyze and maybe even discredit Christian doctrines.
An important fact about Zionism is that, just like the rest of us, rank-and-file Jewish people have been brainwashed into its acceptance.
LOL.
That's a funny, but fair question Anonymous. After the job that has been done on Christianity in the popular media over the past few years, I am not surprised one views Christian faith and Intellectual alacrity as incompatible phenomena.
The essence of Christianity is that man has a Divine soul and is intended to evolve and become more God like. Universal love is the divine plan for man. To be a Christian means one aspires to be like Christ.
Am I a Christian? Yup. (That aint illegal yet is it?) Church going Bible thumper? Nah. (Not yet anyway.)
I am very interested in maximizing my human potential. The tenets and principles of Christianity, I believe, can be traced back thousands of years before Jesus.
Were I born in the Middle-east, I am sure I would be a Muslim. Were I born in Japan, I would be a Buddhist. Were I born in India, I'd practice Hinduism. If I grew up here in America, and my parents allowed me to watch television, I'd probably be a spiritually bankrupt secularist / atheist walking around calling myself "spiritual".
Anonymous,
1) Are you a "secularist"? and 2) Please come up with a nickname.
Good shet, DV.
On March 31st, 2006 cnulan says:
"Who lied us into war? For whose sake did 2,300 American soldiers, and tens of thousands of Iraqis, die? Whose interests were served? The tip of the spear Mearsheimer and Walt have pricked the Lobby with is the contention that they were the decisive influence in pushing us into war with Iraq. And the howls that are coming from right, left, and center are proof enough that they have struck home."
Brother CNu!
Whew. You a bloggin mofo aint you?
Interesting thread. Read it. All 100,000 words. Good stuff.
But to give you a quick snapshot of where I am in the development of DVism - and why your characterization of my thesis as "Sabbatean Illuminanist" is woefully inadequate.
"Israel", "U.S", "Europe" are mere words. Abstractions. Nostalgic codewords designed to perpetuate the illusion among the masses that "nations" still exist.
"The U.S." exists no more as an autonomous nation-state than does the Democratic party truly exist as a viable political party.
The term "Israel" is a marketing concept, borrowed from the Old Testament, designed to concentrate Jewish interests, so they too can be exploited.
Is this "war" really being fought in the interests of the Israeli people? Not really. Israelis, Europeans and Americans of all colors are victimized and preyed upon by the same forces that engineer perpetual global war.
This is where the Mike Fisher ride comes to an end. He is incapable of viewing non-whites as victims of anything.
As the Titanic sinks, he is arguing for blacks to compete with whites for the few remaining cabins in 2nd class steerage.
DV, did you mean to say of Bro. Fisher;
This is where the Mike Fisher ride comes to an end. He is incapable of viewing WHITES as victims of anything.?
Marketing concept, I like that. From the sound of it, you seem to concur - at least in the broad outlines - with J.Macleans concept of the Trans-European Project?
In retrospect, I've found little to enough to quibble with him over it. Which brings me to my perennial request for clarification.
Israelis, Europeans and Americans of all colors are victimized and preyed upon by the same forces that engineer perpetual global war.
Who are these forces?
You left out the remaining vast bulk of humanity that appears - in many regards - to serve as a living canvas for the trans-european project - but which as our friend the Submariner pointed out, not an entirely passive or restive canvas and one well capable of effective albeit assymetrical response.
"This is the Cosmic Struggle between Spirit and Matter: God will be Immanent; Matter will resist. This is the conflict between God (the view that man is unfinished, and dependent on Divine revelation) and Lucifer (man is already god.)"
Thanks for a good dose of happy horse-shit. Ha ha.
What it means I have no idea, except that you have fallen hard for what is only an old joke.
An inside joke.
Religion is made up by Political force (yes even your favorite Jesus) It is purely the sale of blue sky and happy homily.
You are the Illuminate.
Grounded in Babylonian bullshit.
People that believe in nonsense abstractions, and try to control others with insanity about 'morality' run our society now.
Functional idiots, Politicians employ the same senseless language to control and put fear into the populace.
A civil war is on the horizon.
It is hoped that the religious people will be swept out of our system.
That includes all the Babylonian preachers.
A good society does not need religion.
In a good society no one cares what another believes in.
There is no accounting for belief.
Religion is a broken crutch that serves the crippled life of our spirits in a very very screwed up system.
cnulan...
"This is where the Mike Fisher ride comes to an end. He is incapable of viewing WHITES as victims of anything.?"
Whites obviously are victims of plenty of things. They just are not victims of racism.
DV, why do you begrudge Michael Fisher his indulgences when you endow a clandestine group with similar superhuman authority? It appears you've substituted one form of idolatry for another.
'If I grew up here in America, and my parents allowed me to watch television, I'd probably be a spiritually bankrupt secularist / atheist walking around calling myself "spiritual..."
What're you sayin, here, DV?
Churches/Religious groups, are Special interest groups, PERIOD, as are all Political groups.
That means they want to deprive someone else of their rights or freedoms.
One may hold any belief system they wish, however in a 'good' society they have no special consideration regardless of how many may choose to believe what ever it is they believe.
All insanity is supported by one holding a belief system.
No belief system is ever or will ever be supported by fact.
Glorifying some persons opinion of what they consider 'truth' is fine and dandy, but elevating that to fact is an exercise in the absurd.
Religion is better left out of playing a role in a good society.
People can decide for themselves what they care to believe.
Again it is pointed out that secular means, not of the church.
Since the 'church' is made up of lying hypocrites that are obsessed with controlling people with some or other brand of nonsense, secular is sensible as the jumping off point of an objective, and fair society.
Angels and Devils ?
Satanic Cults ?
New World Religion ?
Come on... This is pure happy horse shit.
What cha smokin man.
You'll never catch me denying the possible existence and coercive effect of an Illuminati. Call it what you will there is too much evidence that active control is being exercised to coordinate this perfect storm of a system. And the wheels are still just about ready to fall off.
What I'd really like to know is, why you spent all that time decrying GSWS, when you could have far more easily reconciled your concept of Illuminati to fit into, (or even on top of) the GSWS? While you are at it, could you perhaps clarify whether your proposal of building a better plantation across the street is a workable action plan to overcome the Illuminati? Will you be building a better Illuminati across the street as well?
It makes perfect sense. And Fisher has already debunked your idea that a GSWS theorist can't see whites as victims. I couldn't see a non-white as a member of the Illuminati, but we have already established that "white" is just the name of the club. The only real bearing of any particular phenotypical determination at this point seems to be the need to continue the practical subjugation of the majority of the world's population, a goal that would fit into both Illuminati and WS paradigms.
We can rail against Zionism next if there is truly a need for the cathartic effects of rehashing the same old, same old. As honorary whites, Israel gets to be involved in the decision making and goal setting process. Are they in charge? Who knows? Do we need to know who is at the top of the totem pole to begin chopping it down?
And let me give props to DV for the most lucid definition of his personal belief system that I have ever heard from someone who self-identifies as a "Christian". You may not think so, but I think you are only a few steps from not needing to identify or classify your spiritual beliefs based on superficial parameters imposed by the dominant society. That doesn't imply atheism as the Christian right would have you believe. It just means your concept of God has elevated itself beyond the petty vengeful petulant parody of Sun worship that currently rules the masses.
"Are they in charge? Who knows? Do we need to know who is at the top of the totem pole to begin chopping it down?"
It is not a bad idea to know who is at the top. It is the Price System. A Price System caters to any and all people that believe in it.
Making it a 'race' issue is bullshit.
It`s religion is MONEY and CONTROL.
It likes to preach and moralize about sex, and behavior.
It hates any thing that reflects poorly on its self, even though it is based on abstract concepts that do not mirror any kind of reality.
Very simply look in the mirror.
That is who runs things. You do.
There is no conspiracy beyond what is very obvious on the surface.
Take it at face value.
So called 'race' has nothing to do with any thing.
This is America.
We are beyond that backward European concept.
America is the best hope for creation of a new type of society, not based on the bullshit of money.
"It just means your concept of God has elevated itself beyond the petty vengeful petulant parody of Sun worship that currently rules the masses."
D.V. is a stereotype of someone that is a total victim of religion, if you want to call it that.
He does not know or understand the basis of religion, where it came from and how it is being used to turn people into zombies for the Price System.
That middle eastern approach is on the verge of destroying the world.
It does no good to preach and moralize at people. It makes for a good scam though for dollar business.
A good society does NOT have charity.
It does not need charity.
A good society is a free society that takes care of ALL of its citizens, equally.
We live in a barbaric parody of a good society now.
A window for change is open.
Change will not occur if we are harping on the same happy horse shit sale of blue sky.
There is NO illuminati. It is a scapegoat.
It is time to run out of scapegoats.
What there is is a bunch of greedy fuckers that will kick your ass to make a quick buck.
That is our friendly (advertising) propaganda/brainwashing system, that has gone into the business of turning people into brainwashed morons that are 'consumers' and little else.
They consume religion, and what ever other bullshit about lies that comes in handy to control the societal template.
Hello Suckers ~!~
Babylon is falling
You guys are forgetting that hypnosis, mass hypnosis and self hypnosis do work. Low level lights, hypnotic music, incense, repetitive chanting, television, even ads and commercials, like DV posted here, earlier. And let me tell ya, group will is a force that's hard to reckon with. Anyone remember MKUltra and MKUltraII?
Please connect the dots you've cast re: hypnosis, group will, and MKUltra. Thanks!
Check out 'Civilization and its Discontent.' By a certain Mr. Freud.
That was written around the time that 'democracy' (special interest groups) and capitalism, were linked by propaganda (public relations) in the mind of North Americans, and people throughout the world.
That, and material below taken together, offer proof positive that America was 'taken over' by Globalism/Corporate interests between 1938 and 1948, using a number of Techniques of manipulation and deception.
Freud's relative, Edward Bernays, came up with many of these ideas, with information from other, more ancient sources, for this brainwashing exercise.
As with many things that originated somewhere , a finger can be pointed directly at Edward Bernays, for 'creating' much of what Americans and others were later deceived with.
These ideas however, hearken back to the advent of 'civil' society, and religion as its surrogate/enforcer of control. (2200 to 1800 BC.)
Technocracy is the ONLY construct that will get rid of this mode of control entirely, thus freeing humans from thousands of years of manipulation by special interests of religion, politics, etc.
This is not 'secret'.
This is blatantly available information for anyone that can think beyond pushing a wiki button.
It is NOT a conspiracy.
There is NO Illuminati.
It is all out there to see without dramatizing it, or turning it into a scapegoat.
Divide and Conquer mentality is maintained in an 'us and them', good vs. evil, right and wrong scenario.
Of course it becomes important to punish the 'evil doers'.
No matter that it is a simple matter to change society so that the current power holders are simply not rewarded for their 'bad' behavior.
Get ready for more of the same witch hunt led by people like D.V. who are enamored with Babylonian concepts of pussy control among other things.
There is no accounting for belief, but religion tries to.
Guilt is the method to shove anger down the throat.
Engaging the system on its own terms is engaging the Clown.
When you engage the clown --- clown kills you.
Clown is crazy.
Yeah, ritual and group ritual is hypnotic, is my point; mindhax, if you get the point, but one first must become aware of it--like in the video DV posted of the propagandists (in this case, advertisers) being propagandized (programmed) on their way to come up with an ad idea that was uniquely theirs.
Skip, there is some secrecy, i'd say a great deal is more unknown than is known. What about bilderburg? what about the way the global mafia, imf/wb/wto do business behind locked doors, etc? Besides all the gratuitous sex and copious amounts of liquor and drugs, i mean? :P
I repeat Conspiracy nut. You are wasting your time.
"Skip, there is some secrecy, i'd say a great deal is more unknown than is known. What about bilderburg? what about the way the global mafia, imf/wb/wto do business behind locked doors, etc? Besides all the gratuitous sex and copious amounts of liquor and drugs, i mean? :P
For one thing what is wrong with sex. You are being moralistic.
Liquor is not an issue either, unless it is being abused.
Conspiracy people in general have not taken the time to understand the simple dynamic of our system, and prefer the idea of 'reform' or the idea of punishment to certain people.
That accomplishes nothing.
The system Cannot Be Reformed.
Investigate Technocracy friend.
The conspiracy stuff is a dead end. It goes no where and does nothing. Stuff like Alex Jones and his cohorts will lead you around in circles for an entire lifetime and tell you nothing.
Mostly they are Libertarian bullshit artists that pimp for a gold standard and a return to the Constitution.
It is backwards and anti intellectual clap trap.
Amy Goodman and Noam Chomsky have their own particular brand of the same but slightly different bullshit. Seymore Hearse also.
Gate keepers of crap knowing or unknowing is all these people are.
Alex Jones is an idiot. He misleads a large group of intellectually lazy lay abouts.
The conspiracy stuff offers nothing, but false material.
We live in a thug criminal society. Any fool knows that. You will NOT get information of the reality of our situation from those groups.
Just bigotry, hate mongering, and a sadistic wish to punish the people who are only being rewarded by playing by the rules of the game in a Price System.
Hmz...conspiracynut makes a mental note to researcg 'technocracy' this weekend...
Skip, I love my Constitution, i am in love with it, and in the absence of some sort of anarchy *grins, i want it back!
I've seen nothing to discredit Amy Goodman, and not a whole heck of a lot to discredit al jones (and he doesn't go on about about lizard people, that's just a bit too big for even me to swallow). If you'll provide links to credible sources discrediting them, and noam et al, i'll be happy to review it at my leisure.
Finally, i never said liquor, sex or drugs are bad! Please refrain from putting words in my mouth; i merely noted that those are things the 'powers that be' don't want the public to see, specially since it's probably on the taxpayers' tab! :o
i respect you, Skip, you make sense but i really need that documentation.
Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving (nothin like gratitude, and even more especially without a 'gratitee' as i once heard someone call it :])
"Hmz...conspiracynut makes a mental note to research 'technocracy' this weekend..."
Good show, and Happy Thanksgiving.
Our Political system is an anachronism in regard to the present.
Technology destroys our Price System.
Our system is designed to work hand in hand with Adam Smith economics.
That is scarcity based economics.
Marx also viewed human labor as noble and exalted it.
Capitalism or Communism are Price Systems. Rubles or Dollars.
Those type of systems control people. They were designed to control people in a class system.
Purchasing power is destroyed when humans are replaced by mechanization.
Try Googling Technocracy Incorporated for starters.
Good luck.
Your Constitution is a dead letter.
A better document must now come forth.
Its not possible to reform the present system.
It is pointless also. It will no longer work as any thing other than a death machine.
Money is no longer needed.
Change is possible.
Ok, i'm definitely interested. Moving this discussion to your e mail address listed at your blog. Many, many interesting articles at that site, if anyone is interested in challenging their own points of view.
Thank you cons.nut.
I have mailed a bunch of links to you just now.
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