Tuesday, October 09, 2007

"GAY GENE" A MYTH

Anonymous Said ...

Myth: Research shows that there is a "gay gene." Homosexuality is genetic.

Reality: Homosexuality is not a genetically encoded condition. Contrary to media hype, there is no conclusive or compelling empirical evidence showing any absolute biological, genetic, or hormonal causation for homosexuality. Homosexual activist and molecular biologist Dean Hamer’s study claiming the existence of a homosexual gene has been scientifically discredited. Studies that claim to prove homosexuality is genetic have been purposefully designed from a homosexual advocacy perspective and seek to convince society that homosexuality is innate, psychologically normal, and thus socially desirable.

There may be a possibility of the existence of a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality, which is far different from causation. But even this possibility is far from scientifically proven. Predisposition toward something does not mean that it is inevitable, or that such a predisposition cannot or should not be resisted and overcome. Some people may have a predisposition to alcoholism, yet we do not affirm their disposition, but rather treat their condition and help them change. Current evidence suggests that environmental, familial, and personal influences contribute significantly to the development of homosexual tendencies. Seventy years of therapeutic counseling and case studies show a remarkable consistency concerning the origins of the homosexual impulse as an uncompleted gender identity seeking after its own sex to replace what was not fully developed in childhood. (NARTH.com)

Although individuals who experience homosexual attractions and thoughts may not have chosen these tendencies, they do have a choice as to whether or not they will act on the feelings. It is the acting on these feelings that constitutes homosexuality. Many people have left the homosexual community and live successful heterosexual lives, which often includes marriage and raising children. See Fast Facts #73-83

Myth: Homosexual behavior is innate. Homosexuality is "what a person is."

Reality: What a person does (behavior) should never be equated with what a person is. No human being can or should be reduced to his or her sexual impulses. Impulses cannot compel behavior or identities without a person’s consent. If people "are" their actions, then what does that say about the thief, the anorexic, the prostitute, or the marathon runner? Ninety-eight percent of the population does not define their very being and purpose in life by their sexual behavior.

Homosexuality is a sexual behavior. It cannot be compared to race or ethnicity. People who engage in same-sex behavior are accorded the same rights as every other citizen. Special rights should not be given to individuals because of their sexual behavior. Homosexuality is not a genetically encoded condition - like height or skin color Homosexuals are one of the most powerful special interest groups in the U.S. Their success in passing special "gay" rights legislation is unprecedented. Their opponents are silenced by cries of "homophobia," and their cause has been taken up as a major plank in the Democratic Party’s platform.
Their political power goes way beyond what would be expected of a minority that makes up about 2 percent of the population.

It is not discriminatory to deny homosexuals the right to marry. Homosexuals are afforded exactly the same right as heterosexuals; they can marry one person of the opposite sex. Homosexuals enjoy full citizenship rights; they can vote, own or transfer property, name life insurance beneficiaries, and grant medical power of attorney, among other rights. Marriage has been understood and defined for centuries and throughout civilization as the union between a man and a woman, instituted for the continuance of life and to best protect and provide for children. Government and society grant benefits and protection to a man and a woman in marriage because of their biological potential to bear and effectively raise the next generation. Even childless couples or infertile couples always have the potential to procreate. Homosexual couplings always do not. If societies deviate from the standard of marriage as a child-based institution, they open the door to any kind of marriage. When homosexuals are not allowed to marry each other, they suffer no more discrimination than do bigamists, polygamists, or people who wish to marry children.

Oct 9, 2007 9:36:00 AM

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

People this stuff is from 1997


The Biological Research on Homosexuality
Book Excerpt:
Homosexuality and American Public Life
Edited by Christopher Wolfe
Spence Publishing Co. (Dallas, TX)

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This book is based on papers delivered at the 1997 conference, "Homosexuality and American Public Life," held in Washington, D.C. at the Georgetown Conference Center. To order, call 1-888-773-6782.

http://www.narth.com/docs/bioresearch.html

Anonymous said...

Old ass studies!


Scientists Know the Truth about "Gay Gene" Research


But before we consider the specifics, here is what serious scientists think about recent genetics-of-behavior research. From Science, 1994:


Time and time again, scientists have claimed that particular genes or chromosomal regions are associated with behavioral traits, only to withdraw their findings when they were not replicated. "Unfortunately," says Yale's [Dr. Joel] Gelernter, "it's hard to come up with many" findings linking specific genes to complex human behaviors that have been replicated. "...All were announced with great fanfare; all were greeted unskeptically in the popular press; all are now in disrepute."{1}

http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html

Anonymous said...

Purchase your next home, car and daily food selections from old ass research...

LOL!

Anonymous said...

Homosexual and transgender individuals were also common among other pre-conquest civilizations in Latin America, such as the Aztecs, Mayans, Quechas, Moches, Zapotecs, and the Tupinambá of Brazil.[14][15] The Mexica worshipped Xochiquetzal, "the goddess of non-procreative sexuality and love. . . Xochiquetzal was both male and female at the same time, and in her male aspect (called Xochipilli), she/he was worshipped as the deity of male homosexuality and male prostitution."[15]

The Spanish conquerors were horrified to discover "sodomy" openly practiced among native peoples, and attempted to crush it out by subjecting the berdaches (as the Spanish called them) under their rule to severe penalties, including public execution and burning. In a famous example of homophobic cruelty, in 1513 the conquistador Vasco Nunez de Balboa

Anonymous said...

Though often denied or ignored by European explorers, homosexual expression in native Africa was also present and took a variety of forms:

Anthropologists Murray and Roscoe report that women in Lesotho have engaged in socially sanctioned "long term, erotic relationships" named motsoalle.[12]
E. E. Evans-Pritchard reported that male Azande warriors (in the northern Congo) routinely married male youths who functioned as temporary wives. The practice had died out in the early 20th century but was recounted to him by the elders.[13]
An academic paper by Stephen O. Murray examines the history of descriptions of "Homosexuality in traditional Sub-Saharan Africa"PDF (228 KiB).

Anonymous said...

In East Asia same-sex love has been referred to since the earliest recorded history. Early European travelers were taken aback by its widespread acceptance and open display. None of the East Asian countries today have specific legal prohibitions against homosexuality or homosexual behavior.

Homosexuality in China, known as the pleasures of the bitten peach, the cut sleeve, or the southern custom, has been recorded since approximately 600 BCE. These euphemistic terms were used to describe behaviors, but not identities (recently the Chinese society adapted the term "brokeback," 斷背 duanbei, due to the success of Chinese director Ang Lee's film Brokeback Mountain).[17] The relationships were marked by differences in age and social position. However, the instances of same-sex affection and sexual interactions described in the Hong Lou Meng (Dream of the Red Chamber, or Story of the Stone) seem as familiar to observers in the present as do equivalent stories of romances between heterosexuals during the same period.

Homosexuality in Japan, variously known as shudo or nanshoku, terms influenced by Chinese literature, has been documented for over one thousand years and was an integral part of Buddhist monastic life and the samurai tradition. This same-sex love culture gave rise to strong traditions of painting and literature documenting and celebrating such relationships.

Similarly, in Thailand, Kathoey, or "ladyboys," have been a feature of Thai society for many centuries, and Thai kings had male as well as female lovers. While Kathoey may encompass simple effeminacy or transvestism, it most commonly is treated in Thai culture as a third gender. They are generally accepted by society, and Thailand has never had legal prohibitions against homosexuality or homosexual behavior. The teachings of Buddhism, dominant in Thai society, were accepting of a third gender designation.

Anonymous said...

Among many Middle Eastern Muslim cultures, homosexual practices were widespread and public. Persian poets, such as Sa’di (d. 1291), Hafez (d. 1389), and Jami (d. 1492), wrote poems replete with homoerotic allusions. The two most commonly documented forms were commercial sex with transgender males or males enacting transgender roles exemplified by the köçeks and the bacchás, and Sufi spiritual practices in which the practitioner crossed over from the idealized chaste form of the practice to one in which the desire is consummated.

In Persia homosexuality and homoerotic expressions were tolerated in numerous public places, from monasteries and seminaries to taverns, military camps, bathhouses, and coffee houses. In the early Safavid era (1501–1723), male houses of prostitution (amrad khane) were legally recognized and paid taxes.

A tradition of art and literature sprang up constructing Middle Eastern homosexuality. Muslim—often Sufi—poets in medieval Arab lands and in Persia wrote odes to the beautiful wine boys who, they wrote, served them in the taverns. In many areas the practice survived into modern times, as documented by Richard Francis Burton, André Gide, and others.

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper said...
Purchase your next home, car and daily food selections from old ass research. LOL



...or ... Like Casper

You can swallow the latest propaganda from the Gay Lobby like a fat kid sneaking cake.

Notice Casper dared not deal with the substance of the piece, but attempted to discredit it because it was first published in 1997.

Psychiatrists first determined that homosexuals were not mentally ill in 1970, should we dismiss that study too?

Let me help you out Casper.

The operative point of the piece is: 'what a person does (behavior), should not be equated with who a person is' and 'no human being should be reduced to their sexual impulses'.

The piece goes on to focus on the immensely disproportionate political power of homosexuals, far beyond their number.

Now, without regurgitating the GLAAD website verbatim, with which part of that do you disagree?

Anonymous said...

DV
"The piece goes on to focus on the immensely disproportionate political power of homosexuals, far beyond their number."

What is exactly their number. How many people practice homosexuality or bisexuality DV??? You don't know! No one really knows. I guess you knew all those Catholic priest were gay...Didn't you??? No you didn't. You are the definition of a Bigot. Gays have no more greater power than Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson solo. Most are closet cases. Your buddy you golf with maybe??? Who you think is cool as hell could be sucking and getting fucked. Why do you people care so much? You don't even know why? You have been condition just like the son of a Klansman! Niggers are Monkeys! YEAH!

Gays and Fags need to die!
YEAH!

Anonymous said...

BTW DV I want to point out how you selected old ass research to post versus the most recent research I posted that contradicts that old ass information you selected to headline. I thought this was an unbiased, spin free blog???? FOX News in action...

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL. Amazing.

What's interesting, and somewhat sad, is the way Casper has been programmed to accuse anyone who even ... dare ... question gay propaganda, of "HATING GAYS!!"

The power of their propaganda is amazing.

A reasonably intelligent young brother like Casper has been conditioned to confuse the age old phenomena of homosexual sex with the propaganda of the relatively new POLITICAL group called "Gays".

Just like when questioning the ridiculous propaganda of the Israel Lobby, one is called a "anti-Semite", when questioning the ridiculous propaganda of the Gay Lobby one is called "Homophobe".

The Caspers of this world have been duped to play foot soldiers for Gay Lobbyists by doing their dirty work for them.

Voluntary Mental Slavery must be a bitch.

As far as "old research".

Casper, what is older than the truth?

Anonymous said...

DV
What's interesting, and somewhat sad, is the way Casper has been programmed to accuse anyone who even ... dare ... question gay propaganda, of "HATING GAYS!!"

No what's interesting is how scared you and others are of gays & lesbians. But you support gangster rappers who promote evil and sin (pimping, drugs, ho, bitches)based on your concept that homo & Lesbian behavior is sinful.

When is the last time a gay man committed a drive by in your cul de sac. What has a gay man done to you or a member of your family to be so conditioned to hate them as people??? See the reality is you are conditioned. You ahve probably never had a close male friend who was openly gay. Thus you base upir opinions on what others write and say. That's being a sheep!

BTW
Let me send you some research about buying a home before they realized lead paint kills kids... You will try anything to win a point won't you. You keep reading all the old research.

Anonymous said...

BTW
I have never been to a gay rally or heard gay propaganda. However, if one of my family members came out I would fight for them not to be judged by people like you.

"Those who are scared of me have something to hide"

-Mandela 1963

Anonymous said...

you held your own Casper with that quote.

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper ...

A Democratic Presidential Debate, Hosted By "Gays", and focusing on "Gay" issues, while the votes of Black people are thrown in dumpsters ... is politics.

Men screwing each other in the ass which, despite what you've been conditioned to believe, most people could give less than a shit about ... is perversion.

Forcing people to accept perversion as normal, has nothing to do with gay rights and everything to do with power.

Recognizing the difference between politics, perversion and power requires intelligence and intellectual courage.

You are a bandwagon conformist joining the parade of any "group" that plays victim.

No "new study" or off-topic Nelson Mandela quote is going to change that.

When the Gay Lobby tried to lynch the brother Isaiah Washington as if he had committed the worse sin imaginable, Negros like you were falling over each other to fetch the rope.

Why such empathy for David Geffen and none for Isaiah Thomas?

When did it become fashionable for black people to kowtow to homosexuals and to hate black men?

Hate Jews?
No. I just don't want my son to die for Israel.

Hate Gays?
No. I just don't want a BEHAVIOR like homosexuality given elevated group status greater than African-Americans.

Anonymous said...

DV
"Men screwing each other in the ass which, despite what you've been conditioned to believe, most people could give less than a shit about ... is perversion"

But you screwing your babies moma or your girlfriend on the side in the booty and mouth is not perverted???... Oh I see. A different standard of sex play for you Huh DV??

Anonymous said...

DV
"What's interesting, and somewhat sad, is the way Casper has been programmed to accuse anyone who even ... dare ... question gay propaganda, of "HATING GAYS!!"

The power of their propaganda"

BTW what you keep posting is hate propaganda against non-violent people. But gangster rap lyrics (ho,bicthes, drug slinging, gang banging) you support. Now who is the perverted one here?????

Anonymous said...

DV
When the Gay Lobby tried to lynch the brother Isaiah Washington as if he had committed the worse sin imaginable, Negros like you were falling over each other to fetch the rope

No different than when Sharpton got Imus fired.... If a kid called your kid a black ass monkey nigger in shcool you would ask that he be expelled.... Believe that!

Anonymous said...

DV
"Hate Gays?
No. I just don't want a BEHAVIOR like homosexuality given elevated group status greater than African-Americans."

Oh don't switch up your position.... You hate them. You think they are perverted!? Had it ever occurred to you that they want protection from bigots like yourself.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Man, I've never seen Casper come unglued like this. Out of 19 comments on this post, 15 are his.

Must of hit a nerve. A little too close to home perhaps?

Denmark Vesey said...

But you screwing your babies moma or your girlfriend on the side in the booty and mouth is not perverted???... Oh I see. A different standard of sex play for you Huh DV??

1) It aint "Genetic".
2) It shouldn't be depicted in "Fairy Tales" for second graders.
3) Ass Fuckers and Blow Job Queens don't have their own PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

Anonymous said...

People will go to the ends of the earth to force homosexuality upon us.

Denmark Vesey said...

But Big J,

What is interesting is the way in which so many people have been convinced that it is the other way around.

Casper, despite how hard he and I are on each other, is a good well meaning brother. But he has been CONVINCED that no one can criticize Gay Politics without HATING homosexuals.

How did they plant that seed in millions of American brains so effectively?

The mere QUESTIONING of Gay Gene Myth is cause for alarm. It's almost as bad as asking a question about the Holocaust.

Brilliant strategy.

They even got my girl Robyn defending the placement of Homosexual Fairy Tales in second grade class rooms.

(And she is every bit as conservative as am I.)

Maybe black people can learn a thing or two from the Gay Lobby.

They get their own debate, we get our votes thrown in the trash.

Anonymous said...

DV
Must of hit a nerve. A little too close to home perhaps

Yeah! the Bigotry nerve

Anonymous said...

DV
1) It aint "Genetic".
2) It shouldn't be depicted in "Fairy Tales" for second graders.
3) Ass Fuckers and Blow Job Queens don't have their own PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

#1 I don't get... what's the difference if it's a man's asshole or a woman's asshole.
#2 Huh? But hetero sex behavior is ok. But gangster rappers video play and lyrics about giving head on the tv & radio are ok becuase it's hetero... I see
#3 I disagree. You going to tell me you never hit some chick off in the ass??? Don't lie. And whomever gave you your last blowjob(which may have been 10 years ago) They are represented to. So see they are not that different after all. You have just been programmed by some homophobe or your catholic priest had liberties with you maybe.

Anonymous said...

TSO
"People will go to the ends of the earth to force homosexuality upon us."

When was the last time your doorbell rang and you open it to find a jova trying to sell you some religious material. Or the home improvement man selling you some siding. So I guess your telling me you have gays coming to your door to sell you on turning gay???? Wow!... that is a first.

Anonymous said...

Casper, does the so called latest research, offer any thing different that this so called old research? To the best of my knowledge, there is still no conclusive research or evidence that shows that there is a gay gene!

Please allow people to have an opinion on homosexuality, without resorting to insults!

Anonymous said...

DV
"Casper, despite how hard he and I are on each other, is a good well meaning brother. But he has been CONVINCED that no one can criticize Gay Politics without HATING homosexuals."

No I can make that distinction. But you are being a hypocrite. You will blast anyone who disagree's with 50 cent as being rap haters. So if you are going to be anything for us DV... Be consistent!

Secondly, you have already stated that their sexual conduct is perverted to you. Although, hitting the backdoor and BJ's are in your arsenal... No matter if they maybe considered unnatural because you can't reproduce from oral or anal now... Right!

Denmark Vesey said...

Nah Casp.

You misunderstand.

Never said two men screwing each other is "unnatural". I said it is a sexual perversion.

Incest is natural. It is also a perversion.

Thank God those that practice Incest don't have a lobby and powerful friends in academia and politics or you would be supporting Fairy Tales about a brother and a sister marrying each other and ruling the kingdom together.

Casper, do you think those that practice incest should be afforded the same "rights" as those that practice heterosexuality?

Why not? They have "assholes" too, since that is your measure of everything.

Anonymous said...

accra
Please allow people to have an opinion on homosexuality, without resorting to insults!

Bigot is not an insult. It is what it is by definition.

Anonymous said...

DV
Never said two men screwing each other is "unnatural". I said it is a sexual perversion

So when you hit dat asshole...Is that perverted behavior DV????

Anonymous said...

DV
"Casper, do you think those that practice incest should be afforded the same "rights" as those that practice heterosexuality?"

Explain your definition of incest?
If you are talking about intrafamilial child sexual abuse... Then my answer is no they should not. If you are talking about second cousins. I don't have a detailed response yet. If you are talking about a grown mother and son. Recessive genes, which can contain various genetic problems, appear more often in the offspring of procreative couplings whose members both have the same gene. Thus mother nature has spoken!

Denmark Vesey said...

yuck

Anonymous said...

Do the numerous ailments associated with anal sex ( permanently loose anus, leaking faeces, etc. etc) also mean that mother nature has spoken?

Anonymous said...

accra
Do the numerous ailments associated with anal sex ( permanently loose anus, leaking faeces, etc. etc) also mean that mother nature has spoken?

Wouldn't know... I don't practice... Unless checking the prostate.

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper, you know you got the "latest Anal Study" Fall 07, sitting by the bed right next to a GLAAD Fact Sheet right now.

Anonymous said...

Funny DV funny!