Wednesday, October 17, 2007

Ax or Ask? Gerard Mclendon Battles "Black English"



It's not "testes" ... it's "tests". It's not "amalance", it's "ambulance". It's not "sanwich" it's "sandwhich".

How can a person call oneself an "educator" if they are reluctant to correct someone's grammar?
Wesley Gibson said...
Pure and utter coonery. Its consistently amazing how blacks continue to focus on idiocy like this rather than the very real and visceral achievement gap. We are consistently focused on improving white folks perception of us rather that the development of actual skills that will help us compete in the domestic and now global market. And on top of that we moralize all of this silliness. I'm sure his heart is in the right place, but just like the rest of the civil rights era negronia he's both out of touch with the reality of our situation and constantly focused on improving it by making white folks like us. Pitiful
Wow. Brotha makes a point. Sounds like me. Who is this cat?

11 comments:

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Funny. When I did moot court in law school, my partner kept concluding her arguments with "therefore, we ax the court to...."

I told her that it wouldn't fly and if she couldn't pronounce ask correctly, she should say "request". Which she ultimately had to do. And we took second place and made the national team. :-)

With my mentee, I correct "ax", "we was", etc. It's irrelevant whether that's how kids speak with each other, when you're with grown ups, you speak proper English.

Anonymous said...

My father corrected my english all the time. Reggie Miller's father made him read the newspaper out loud in order to develop his diction and pronunciation. Martin Luther King spoke alternatively with a southern drawl and hint of the Queen's English.

The way you speak can increase your ability to have an impact on the world. I remember a judge once told me that I had a great "orator's voice." Made a brotha feel like Paul Robeson. :-)

This guys seems like he has his heart in the right place. At least he's interacting with black kids, which is more than I can say for most middle class negros and negresses.

Axinar said...

Now, now, now ... when I was growing up if you asked someone to speak "standard English" it was tantamount to asking them to stop being Black ...

Wesley Gibson said...

Pure and utter coonery. Its consistently amazing how blacks continue to focus on idiocy like this rather than the very real and visceral achievement gap. We are consistently focused on improving white folks perception of us rather that the development of actual skills that will help us compete in the domestic and now global market. And on top of that we moralize all of this silliness. I'm sure his heart is in the right place, but just like the rest of the civil rights era negronia he's both out of touch with the reality of our situation and constantly focused on improving it by making white folks like us.

Pitiful

Anonymous said...

English language is an essential skill.

Wesley Gibson said...
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Wesley Gibson said...

To anonymous: Grammar is the structure and form of language, pronunciation is the way that it sounds when spoken out loud. I'm sure you feel in your heart of hearts that a person that speaks in such a manner is a fool, but realistically pronunciation (and really even spelling) is and can be as fluid as the vagaries of dialect allow. Who is to say that american's don't sound ignorant for speaking sans an english accent? What gives legitimacy to one evolution of pronunciation, but not another. Essentially, your point is a truism without real meaning, and thats essentially my point: as black people, we are focused on truisms rather than actual meaning. For us, everything is related intimately to dignity and morality. "A person should not speak like that", we think to ourselves, but what about the quality of the thoughts that the speech is attempting to convey? The problem, in my opinion, is that blacks (through circumstance and no real fault of our own) have been taught to preach, not to debate. Stop shucking and jiving. Homie.

Anonymous said...

To marry this with the Coz debate...when he first went on his rant, the 'call-out' tour's debut episode, I used to ask/ax folks how language could be inherently good or bad, smart or 'dumb' (changed to 'ignorant' for the mass discussion, but redeployed for Vick and T.I., individuals)?? How can LaKeisha be a bad name and Ashley be a good name??

Come on indeed!!!!

Make a video teaching the 'Kings English' and couch it with why this language works if you want a certain type of access. If you don't want that access, cool. There are other things you need to learn though. And still more things that you learn and become voided by this moment and place in time.

We're all just one bad cop away.

Don't though, do not, stop believing in something that is inherent - your own power.

Anonymous said...

@ Wesley Gibson

There is absolutely nothing wrong with helping children master the english language!

"I'm sure you feel in your heart of hearts that a person that peaks in just a manner is a fool"

Why so presumptious?
What does being a fool have to do with anything?

An illiterate man is not necessarily a "fool" or foolish because they are illiterate, how does your logical reasoning flow?

I am not confusing a persons intelligence with a person's
knowledge.

I have no doubt that most chidren that are taught to speak the english language correctly do so.
And if they do not speack the the english language correctly, then it's because they haven't learn't to do so.

Anonymous said...

Correction, "learnt"

Anonymous said...

Ummm it's not sandwich or sandwhich

it's sandwich