Monday, July 30, 2007

Speaking of "Inhumane". Got Chicken?


Billions of chickens go from shell to hell on factory farms. Female chicks are debeaked, their tiny beaks—and often part of their tongue or face—burned off with hot blade. Their brothers, "useless" to the egg industry, are tossed in plastic bags to suffocate to death. Hens used as egg layers are total prisoners, spending their entire lives in cramped, filthy wire cages, unable even to spread one wing.

Every part of their existence is mechanized—conveyor belts roll food by and their eggs away. When their productivity slows, they're purposely starved to force more eggs out of them (a process called "forced molting"). When their egg production declines because of illness or age or stress, no vet is called. The hens are simply yanked from their cages, often suffering broken wings and legs, thrown onto a truck for a frightening ride in all weather extremes to the slaughterhouse. There they are hung upside down, screeching and frightened. Their throats are slit and their withered bodies ground up for soup and pie fillings.

"Broilers" are raised in huge, crowded windowless sheds and pumped full of antibiotics to keep them from dropping dead from diseases caused and amplified by overcrowding and living in their own waste. Crippled birds live with chronic leg pain, bowed legs, rickets, arthritis, and other ailments—unable to reach food and water. Bred for maximum breast meat, their little legs cannot adequately support their weight. Many die of thirst and starvation. When they are between 6 to 8 weeks old, they're slaughtered.

25 comments:

Michael Fisher said...

There's a real quick way to liberate these chickens...

Let them find out a Stagger Lee type brotha owns the factories.

Denmark Vesey said...

Stagger Lee?

Not hip.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Tell them Michael Vick owns the factory. And, for good measure, blame hip hop for the desire for juicier, bigger breasts. :-)

Denmark Vesey said...

Insurgent.

THAT. IS FUNNY.

J.C. said...

False connection to farming.
Vick is a jerk that got off on torturing animals. For money and kinky kicks. Sick. Period.

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL.

Skip says that like he was there.

It's amazing the mind control exercised by the corporate media. All they have to do is feed morons shit they want to believe anyway.

J.C. said...

You really think so ?
Kind of like the shit that was fed you about religion ?
Being ok phucking up animals for sport ?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Skip,

Is there no such as thing as innocent until proven guilty?

Denmark Vesey said...

Nah man,

Wrong again Skip.

The corporations, like the school system, discourage religion.

The corporations hate religion. Secular, spiritually bankrupt people are easier to control. They all end up on some type of drug sooner or later.

Fucking up animals for sport?

Nah not me. We don't even kill spiders in my house. The kids catch them and we throw them over the porch.

It's self-righteous hypocrisy that is the real villain here.

As you cry over a few hundred dogs, and try to pin it all on a man who likely wasn't even there, a few million cows, pigs and other animals are suffering a life you couldn't even imagine.

But as long as you can point your sausage of a finger at Michael Vick, and preach the Gospel of Technocracy - you can sleep with the warm fuzzy feeling you are the good guy.

Neoliberal American hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Anonymous said...

Very simple...

Once again:

Dogfighting is illegal

Processing animals for food is legal

If you dont like the law then lobby congress or run for congress. It's that simple DV. But don't kick and screem in your room. Stop sittig on your hands. What other laws don't you like? You live in a somewhat democracy... You may not like the law but obviously you have been outnumbered. So get over it son!

Your lohic is using some other issue to justify Vick's bullshit. Oh well Perdue kills chickens so Vick should be able to kill dogs... Wow

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper said...
Very simple...
Once again:
Dogfighting is illegal


Casper,

Very simply. You think like a slave.

What is "legal" and "illegal" is 1) man made 2) not the issue and 3) changes all the time.

Vick is being condemned in the court of public opinion NOT because he broke any law.

Americans tolerate other Americans who break the law all the time. Ever hear of Skooter Libby?

Vick is being offered as a mob sacrifice in the court of public opinion because of a supposed MORAL infraction.

"Vick hurt innocent dogs!!!"

Had Vick cheated on his taxes or sent agricultural supplies to Cuba (which is illegal) we wouldn't even know about it.

The media has gassed up gullible Americans like you, who are now clamoring and demanding that these opportunistic federal prosecutors "make an example" out of Vick by showing Americans "don't tolerate cruelty to animals."

Now.

Here's what you don't get Casper.

These same clamoring gullible Americans, who lick dogs in the mouth, but eat 1,000,000 cows and hogs per day are FAR MORE CRUEL TO ANIMALS than the man they are demanding be THROWN IN PRISON.

What part of that intolerable hypocrisy do you not understand?

Food my ass.

Americans eat more meat in a year than the entire planet earth ate in it's entire history.

Anonymous said...

Once again...

Who cares who eats meat... Who cares who kisses their dog in the mouth. Thats not new news.

Civilizations have laws DV... Or do you run the red light every time you see it. I doubt it...

Anyway Vick may have broken laws that are in 50 U.S. States. Thus...give him a pass because he is a well paid black NFL star. That's bullshit. That's enabling bullshit slave thinking. Stop pandering to people that don't need your help until some shit pops off.

Additionally, if you understood pro sports you might understand that the same attention that he received from ESPN to get those two $100 million contracts you are now bashing because they are reporting his immature judgment. See you want it both ways. And if you understood the process you would know that it doesn't work that way my man. If you do some dumb shit no one(media) would care... But then again your not worthy...

J.C. said...

"Skip,
Is there no such as thing as innocent until proven guilty?"

Insurgent asks.
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I have no idea if he is guilty or innocent. I get the impression from eyewitness accounts that he is stinking guilty.
I am not a fan of the 'justice system' in the U.S. - If you can afford a crooked attorney or can buy off a judge, or have other elaborate legal options, many times even what is referred to as justice is mostly a bad joke.
I would like to see our entire 'civil society' method scrapped.
It is primitive and barbaric.
It is based on caste system/class system concepts which are antique.

Much better would be a system of trained expert personnel using a method that eliminates attorneys, judges, courts etc.

In the mean time I would like to be proved completely wrong about Vick, but I get the very distinct impression that he is culpable as a animal cruelty poster boy.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

I have no idea if he is guilty or innocent. I get the impression from eyewitness accounts that he is stinking guilty.

Skip,

Let the process play out. You are condemning a man without knowing all the facts, while you lambast those you call "ignorant" because they don't know all the facts about technocracy and try to speak on it.

You don't get it both ways.

I'm a lawyer and have worked on high profile litigation before. You would be amazed how different the media coverage of a story from what is actually happening in real life.

Anonymous said...

II

I think I have said and Skip has said that we wish him the best. But if the allegations are supported with the facts. And he is found guilty then he and only he is to blame. Being an attorney you also know the Fed's conviction rate (95%). So being logical people it does not look good... Would you agree?

J.C. said...

I know that in 'real life' the system is corrupt, and based on money issues as much as on so called 'justice'.

I know you are a lawyer, and I am not pointing the finger at you.

In a system like ours, bad behavior is rewarded, so I am not putting you down, but am drawing attention to a system that rewards bad behavior.
I consider our legal system to be a part of the problem, not a part of the solution, to that problem of functional governance.

These are two different issues Insurgent, as to Vick and Technocracy.
Technocracy information is available for all or any to look at and see what they can see about it.

This issue with Vick is hazy at best, and as I said I very much hope that he is absolved, and is not what he is being made out to be.
The thing I find annoying about this case, is the attitude that certain people here have taken, that being, not giving a shit about ripping up dogs and rationalizing that behavior, that is being done by adults, with fake spirituality concepts, and even connecting false 'meat eating' issues, as Casper has pointed out, much to D.V`s denial.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Innocent until proven guilty.

The media have an interest in spinning a story to garner ratings and readership. Thus, there is a need for high drama, real or manufactured.

You are presently watching an episode of X-Files or 24, but this one is about a possible dog-fighting scheme. Absolutely no FACTS have been proven to date. Everything thus far is pure speculation and this is what you are railing about. FICTION.

Skip,

I don't read DV's comments the way you have. Take a step back for a moment.

You see the system, the price system, as a big sham.

He sees the media as a big sham.

Everytime there is a discussion related to money, you comment that money is fake, that people are brainwashed for believing in this unsustainable system, etc.

Everytime there is a discussion related to media topics, DV comments that the stories are hyped up b.s. designed to brainwash and distract from the REAL issues of our lives, such as the impending collapse of our system.

The two of you are not so far apart.

Don't take things so literally.

Anonymous said...

II

The media have an interest in spinning a story to garner ratings and readership. Thus, there is a need for high drama, real or manufactured

The hyprocrisy though II is what about all the other black pro athelets who are shinning ever night on Sports Center. Who dont get into trouble. Who earn $100 million dollars in their careers and giave back to their communities and receive pleasant media coveraga for 1, 5, 10 Hell 20 years for many. You guys don't look at the entire picture. Look Vick is one dam guy. Bonds One dam guy. Pac Man Jones 1 dam guy. There are 50 + men on every NFL team. And 32 teams. The league is 65% minority. You do the math. What is the problem that you and DV wish to have magically appear?

He talks about Mr.Vick more than my local newspaper or broadcast combned. He is disproportionatley reporting on Mr. Vick himself. See the hyprocrisy

Intellectual Insurgent said...

what about all the other black pro athelets who are shinning ever night on Sports Center.

How do you know those guys don't get into trouble?

You don't.

Just because the media haven't made them villains or told you that they are criminals, doesn't mean they are little angels.

You see Casper, this is exactly what this entire discussion is about.

Why do some topics get a huge spotlight and others get played down? There is an agenda in choices of news stories and how they are spun. It is that agenda that is the point of this discussion - not whether Michael Vick is guily, not whether dogfighting is legal or moral but, rather, how Michael Vick is yet another example of how mob justice applies to Black people.

I don't really understand why this is so difficult to understand. I appreciate that you want to wave your finger at some rich negro in condemnation for not being as smart as you are, despite his wealth, in understanding the rules of the game, but why are you so angry about this? Why are you taking this so personally?

J.C. said...

Everyone knows the 'justice system' in this country is a joke.
Just because lawyers get paid big money for plying their craft 0f lying and cheating for money is no reason to exalt the criminal 'justice' system.
It is a scam system.

Innocent until proven guilty ?
Ha ha.

Anonymous said...

II
How do you know those guys don't get into trouble?

Well you have proved my point. If they have then the media is treating them nicely Right!. And you are right... Derek Jeter and A Rod do questionable things when the are traveling and their beat writers avoid publishing it .. Why because one hand feeds the other. They each need each other. That's how the business works.

Now the stories that you refer to.

Pac Man... Arested 8 times prior to Las Vegas. Did you hear much about the 8 prior time II. NO! is the answer. However, 1 person shot and died and the other paralyzed, while other's were wounded. Oh! so the media is doing Pac Man a injustice. You need to stop following the leader DV... And read all the history/facts!

Anonymous said...

Now


Mr. Vick.. Wow wear do I start. Do you want to start with him and his brother in highschool or Virgina Tech where they were each suspended for doing stupid shit. But the media and fans gave them a break. And I guess these breaks are to continue on... Just as long as the brother is throwing a dam ball 75 yards. Where are your priorities. Or are you following the leader DV. Know all the facts/history. He is innocent until found guilty . But when you sleep with dogs you will wake with flees.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Skip,

If the criminal justice system is a joke, then why isn't the media that trumpets for them equally joke? And why are you taking literally and seriously everything that media is telling you to think about Michael Vick?

Casper,

Why is this personal? Why do you want so badly to prove how awful this guy is?

And, to your point, it's even more hypocritical that people have cut these guys breaks for so long because they could play ball but, when the honor of someone's family pet is at stake, they grab the torches and get the mob.

Does that not strike you as the least bit peculiar?

Funny, you accuse me of following DV but all I hear from you is someone who parrots what the White media tell you. Aren't you the one who posted and defended that piece about "who controls the media"? Yet you listen to anything that media say about Michael Vick.

You tell me to get all the facts, yet we wouldn't be having this discussion, if you were taking that exact same approach to Pac Man or Michael Vick. Instead of talking about how great it will be when the mob can lynch them, how about cautioning others that it is too early to rush to judgment?

Anonymous said...

Vick is a spokesperson for many companies; his endorsement contracts have included Nike, EA Sports, Coca-Cola, Powerade, Kraft, Rawlings, Hasbro and AirTran. Source:Wikipedia

Ok so lets see. Kraft... Wow they own Boca Burger and process animal meat.

Coke... Wow they supply kids with sugar water.

Rawlings... Wow don't they used animal hides to produce leather sporting goods.

The hyprocrisy never ends.

J.C. said...

"Instead of talking about how great it will be when the mob can lynch them, how about cautioning others that it is too early to rush to judgment?" Insurgent said.

Yes, maybe it is all a big mix-up, and Vick was actually valiantly trying to look after those dogs instead of torturing and capitalizing on them.
No doubt a lot of money is going to change hands in this process of 'finding out what happened'.

That is the joke about living in a 'civil' society, ha ha.

The media ?
They are a stooge of the Corporation.
For them it is interesting when people die, and still interesting when famous people slaughter animals for fun and profit.
Will we find out what really happened ?
Only if a crowd of people that witnessed the same thing at the same time are asked to swear about what happened.