Most Intellectually Aggressive Thought Of The Dayjasai said...
I feel you lady.i don't mean any harm. on the contrary it is all love and care and i think when we rush to the "i ain't white" square we miss the opportunity to be honest with ourselves.
I could give a damn about an SI model and how she looks cause she's an anomaly all by herself. but i do think it dangerous for us to disassociate ourselves with a smaller body mass. cause we aren’t grizzly bears and our frames are a LOT smaller than the look of us suggests.
I ain’t no emaciated brownie and at 5’8” and 133 lbs I have never been healthier in my life. (although admittedly, my guy, being the brotha that he is, cautions me to keep visible. Lol!)
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is this from the sports illustrated rock and roll hall of fame swimsuit issue?
if so, i really enjoyed that issue. those photographers were brilliant!
the ones with the musicians were cute, but my favorites were Oluchi Onweagba in Memphis.
think they didn't put any black models with the musicians on purpose?
Beyonce ruled!!!!!
Kanye doesn't look like he knows what he's doing. You have to GRAB it, Kanye!
He's essentially being a dupe. The whole point is to pique the jealousy of white men.
Big J
he's got some better ones.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2007_swimsuit/musicians/kanye_west/07_kanye_west_1.html
i misspoke. there was a black model with Gnarls Barkley. I forgot.
the link didn't post right
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fe
atures/2007_swimsuit/musicians/kany
e_west/07_kanye_west_1.html
Thanks Kalena!
LOL.
Damn Big J,
You like to believe brothas have no free will.
LOL
so f-cking what?
what is so ground breaking about this photo?
What exactly, DV, do you suppose the photo or the photographer to be saying?
Cuz none of this is 'speaking' to me.
Apparently, it is Robyn.
I have no idea what the photo is "saying".
That's why I posted it.
I'm interested in other's perspective.
Now, don't tell me if you were flipping through a magazine, you wouldn't stop. Flip back. And look again.
Thanks DV.
this one is much better. he still looks a little scared, but that could be Kanye's 'come hither' look. lol
Yeah Robyn, the point came through much better in the print magazine with the whole collection of hall of fame shots.
i can see how you may not get much from this one shot.
check out that link and look at the black girl in memphis. that's what made me fall in love with the whole concept.
She's aiiight. A little skinny for me.
Big J
she's cute but her chonies are too small.
She's aiiight. A little skinny for me.
Big J
Yeah that's right. You like them Venus Williams, nose tackle, looking models.
;-}
yeah DV, ribs aren't sexy
Viva Beyonce!!!!! lol
Oh baby yeah ~!~
I like THICKNESS. Muscular legs and booty. These are some skinny little, almost-white girls.
I think DV likes white women. :-)
Big J
I like THICKNESS. Muscular legs and booty. These are some skinny little, almost-white girls.
I think DV likes white women. :-)
Big J
LOL.
Yeah right. Picture that. That's like Malcolm catching Jungle Fever.
J,
stop trying to make sistas feel like white women have the lock on being thin/slim/fit.
That's part of the problem. Like reading/being smart, you obviously think being thin is only for white folks.
keep it real.
Jasai that is certainly one way too look at it. However, the flip side of J's comment could be that he recognizes (and rightfuly so) that we aint all built the same. A skinny Black chick is often worlds apart from a skinny white chick.
cosign with Robyn (again, Dayum! lol)
white women don't have fitness on lock. Skinny? Yeah, they can have that because skinny is not often what's healthy.
Sistas that are fit and slim, like Robyn said, still don't look like skinny white women.
Skinny often appears unhealthy. There's a healthy balance that many many black women are able to achieve while still maintaining THICKNESS like only sisters can.
i think that may be what J is getting at.
but somehow the numbers don't bear out. how do we account for that.
maybe what we have been thinking just ain't working.
and we can split hairs all day with language but what we all see suggests we think it's for white girls or we don't care who its' for, just not for us.
rings as a cop out to me.
See.
All ya'll trippin'.
Skinny. Thick. Black. White. It don't really work like that.
What makes a woman black, aint physical.
what rings as a cop out? that white women can have skinny?
ok. i'll elaborate on what i was saying. I'm referring to bone structure and average/healthy weights among black and white women.
i'm 5'5" 140 lbs, right. medium frame. i'm right on for what my weight should be for my height. NOBODY would call me skinny and when i lose 3-5 pounds in busy times, i don't feel healthy. So what i'm saying is that, i'm healthy, fit AND thick. Something white women rarely can accomplish.
Black women's bone structures don't really allow us to be skinny AND healthy. That's why i said white women can have skinny. I'm doing me.
Health trumps image any day in my book. So on that note I can agree with you. It's not okay to say 'i'm a black woman, i'm supposed to be thick' as an excuse for being overweight.
I'm just making the observation that the average black woman's structure does not accomodate a skinny body shape.
So a black woman that is her 'appropriate' weight is always going to be more shapely than a white woman who is her's.
lol that we always turn it into something else, jasai and robyn.
"Black women's bone structures don't really allow us to be skinny AND healthy."
-kalena
i am going to take "skinny" as something derogatorily small. cool. but last I checked, as a community of women we are nowhere near being “skinny” and at least as far from being “healthy” as a group. So I guess I would say the “we ain’t made to be skinny thing” is so far from our collective reality that it doesn’t (for me) bear noting.
And I think the above quote is something we have manufactured in our minds. Because there is so much distance between where we ARE and skinny.
yeah. i'm thinking Hollywood, supermodel skinny.
i feel you completely.
just, i'm talking in theory. you're talking about real life situation. i can respect that cause we do have a long way to go.
(that's me waving the white flag)
I feel you lady.
i don't mean any harm. on the contrary it is all love and care and i think when we rush to the "i ain't white" square we miss the opportunity to be honest with ourselves.
I could give a damn about an SI model and how she looks cause she's an anomaly all by herself. but i do think it dangerous for us to disassociate ourselves with a smaller body mass. cause we aren’t grizzly bears and our frames are a LOT smaller than the look of us suggests.
I ain’t no emaciated brownie and at 5’8” and 133 lbs I have never been healthier in my life. (although admittedly, my guy, being the brotha that he is, cautions me to keep visible. Lol!)
lol at "she's an anomally all by herself" funny
so what you're saying, jasai, is that you can show these models how to really get it done ;-)
I think a lot of overweight women have smaller frames than they would like to think, but frame is completely irrelevant if you're just flat-out out of shape.
I think that's the danger in 'disassociating with smaller frames' because at some point, the discussion of black women's 'ideal' body shape becomes just smoke and mirrors before the real issues.
Don't forget these ... women ... are 12 years old.
no they aren't.
and even if they are, what I should look like is still relevant conversation - having nothing to do with them.
DV likes black women that are about 1/8 "black." That way he don't feel like sellout. :-)
hahahah!
Big J
That's funny as hell J!
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