Central to my argument defending Hip Hop from the growing horde of Rap Haters is the inherent duplicity of demanding of Rap Artists that which Establishment Negros don't demand of themselves.
Rap artists are fighting fire with fire. Plantation Negros fight fire with gasoline by perpetuating the slavery paradigm of appealing to corporations / government / Massa to regulate our people for us.
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"appealing to corporations / government / Massa to regulate our people for us."
Where do you get that from? They are appealing to BLACK rappers to change. Fuck the distributors, gov't or majority consumers. This is a matter of saving Black youth from becoming extinct. This is the most explosive problem affecting Blacks and DV I would think your pro-Black ass would be doing everything possible to uplift our race instead of defending negative rap the perpetuates black on black violence and glorifies drug dealing which has resulted in a astronomical number of Black males being incarcerated. There is a Black male crisis going on. WAKE UP! You act like everything is all good and this is just another case of hattin' on a brotha getting money...it's a lot deeper than that and more troubling. We are on the verge of becoming extinct if you haven't noticed.
Rap artists are fighting fire with fire. Plantation Negros fight fire with gasoline by perpetuating the slavery paradigm of appealing to corporations / government / Massa to regulate our people for us.
DV your are the hypocrite. You are appealing to the corporation call Universal/Interscope who own 50, Dre, Snoop, and you . Just like slaves.
So you should "Drop it like it's hot"
"Where do you get that from? They are appealing to BLACK rappers to change."
BULLSHIT.
Which "BLACK rappers" were on Oprah's show?
Which "BLACK rappers" were in the audience?
The girls at Spellman are writing letters to BET / Viacom / Sumner Redstone (real name Murray Rothstein) ... asking, him not to show black women dancing in sexually suggestive manner in Rap Videos.
Continually outsourcing authority over ourselves to white people perpetuates the slave mentality.
Teach your own people to turn it off. Don't beg corporations to turn it off for you.
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SO WHAT!!...this is why I say Oprah and MSM take away from the real issue at hand...YOUNG BLACK MALES BECOMING EXTINCT
"DV your are the hypocrite. You are appealing to the corporation call Universal/Interscope who own 50, Dre, Snoop, and you . Just like slaves."
Casper,
You no longer make sense.
I am "appealing to the corporation" ... to do what?
You are just saying things.
Obviously your feelings have been hurt. I apologize if our exchanges have come off personal. I shouldn't do that.
However, appealing to people to break the bonds of mental slavery is not easy. Sometimes you have to really get their attention to compel them to examine the fundamental assumptions of their belief system.
You are well intentioned brother, who has simply lost his way.
Hopefully you will come around.
paul said...
SO WHAT!!...this is why I say Oprah and MSM take away from the real issue at hand...YOUNG BLACK MALES BECOMING EXTINCT
Paul -
That's like saying "I'm for good and against evil."
Who isn't.
We are talking strategy. This blog is an invitation to play chess not checkers.
The potential EXTINCTION of black men is not going to be stopped by attacking rappers.
I'm sorry homeboy, but it aint that easy.
The forces imprisoning us at a faster rate than we were imprisoned during slavery is not going to stop if 50 Cent and Tony Yayo become Will Smith and Young MC.
Acknowledge that the language, discourse and world view of Rap is a RESPONSE to that threat and not merely a product of it.
Read history. Look and see who really led revolutions.
It was not petit bourgoise "educated" working class Negro do gooders.
It was men who were willing to PICK UP A GUN AND DIE.
Not a bunch of chumps writing letters to corporations.
So your strategy is to embrace, accept and defend the lyrics as a simple mirror of the situation??
and furthermore, I don't want 50 Cent and Tony Yayo to become Will Smith and Young MC.
I want them to become Pac.
dv
Obviously your feelings have been hurt. I apologize if our exchanges have come off personal. I shouldn't do that.
You aint said shit dv... it's obvious you fight for Fiddy and Snoop to protect the real money makers... Jimmy Iovine
That's why none of your responses touch the subject of Jimmy Iovine and his clan. Why is that? Your Step Daddy maybe.
dv
The forces imprisoning us at a faster rate than we were imprisoned during slavery is not going to stop if 50 Cent and Tony Yayo become Will Smith and Young MC.
Lets see...who is glorifying prison life in the mainstream... Jimmy Iovine and his Koons... DV signed that rap deal son. They need you as well.
Well said Paul (about them becoming Pac). I think the middle ground has been identified and the debate can end (as far as i'm concerned) right there.
dv... did you read it yet?
Bakari Kitwana, a former editor at The Source, identifies blacks born between 1965 and 1984 as belonging to the "hip-hop generation" a term he uses interchangeably with black youth culture ("Generation X" applies mainly to whites, he says). He calls hip-hop "arguably the single most significant achievement of our generation," yet blames it for causing much damage to black youth by perpetuating negative stereotypes and providing poor role models. But this book is about much more than just rap music; it takes a broad look at the state of post-civil-rights black America and the crises that have come about in the past three decades, including high rates of homicide, suicide, and imprisonment and a rise in single-parent homes, police brutality, unemployment, and blacks' use of popular culture (through pop music and movies) to celebrate "anti-intellectualism, ignorance, irresponsible parenthood, and criminal lifestyles." Serious problems indeed, but Kitwana acknowledges that members of this generation have more opportunities than their parents had, and he believes there is still time to make positive and lasting changes.
dv... don't cry.. I am sorry
Despite the assembled star power — which also included Capone-N-Noreaga, Dead Prez, Talib Kweli and such early pioneers of hip-hop as Grandmaster Flash and DJ Kool Herc — the artists were in the New York Hilton as listeners, not as performers.
The spotlight was on Farrakhan, whose nearly three-hour speech urged rappers to accept their responsibilities as role models and to avoid internecine violence and feuds.
Farrakhan urges rappers to turn away from violence
By Leon Drouin Kieth The Associated Press
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, joined by Russell Simmons and other prominent hip-hop figures, called on rap artists to move away from explicitly violent lyrics.
Farrakhan, who also condemned the U.S. war on terrorism, told a receptive, sometimes raucous audience Thursday that rappers owe poor and minority communities more than many of them have given.
“From the suffering of our people came rap,” Farrakhan said. “That should make you a servant of those that produced you. That should make you a servant of the hood.”
Children “can’t read Dick and Jane, but they can recite your raps,” he continued. “The question is, what are you feeding them?”
"Sunny days wouldn't be special, if it wasn't for rain
Wish death upon me
Many, many, many, many men
Have mercy on many men
Somewhere my heart turned cold
Have mercy on my soul
Have mercy on me
Don't look to the sky no more
Lord I don't cry no more
Wish death upon me
Many men, many, many, many, many men"
Become Tupac?
These cats already transcend Tupac.
20 years from now, late like most peasants, you will get it.
Where did I say I object to Gangsta because it is controlled by Jews? That's some typical Arab-centrist bullshit.
My objection is that black cultural expressions are not controlled by black people. I don't care whether it is Germans, Chinese, non-black Eqyptians, Japanese, or Martians who control our s**t. I oppose all of them ofays.
Sheeet. I couldn't stand that bastard non-royalty-paying Rolling Stones' dick-sucking, Led Zeppelin promoting (though for a white blues band they WERE the shit) Ahmet Ertegun. And he was a Muslim and a Turk.
I don't like any racist white folks or whatever nationality or race that try to run our game.
I want us to run our own shit.
That about sums it up.
Fiddy's an actor by day... and an actor by night... And by weekend So have a good one
DV. Do me a favor, please, and put that comment up on the front page with "my" pic.
comment time 2:02:00 PM, that is
DV: Become Tupac? These cats already transcend Tupac.
Robyn: Who are you talking about? I know not 50 Cent!
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