Thursday, May 17, 2007

FIDDY CONTINUES TO SET SHIT STRAIGHT


Big Ups From Sista Soteria

It cracks me up that a former crack dealer from Queens continues to demonstrate a greater understanding of culture and media and chutzpah than thousands of so-called "educated" Negro products of Integrated Schools.

Do your thing Curtis.

During yesterday's press conference in Hollywood to announce details of the BET Awards ’07, one of the scheduled performers, 50 Cent, was grilled about the post-Don Imus backlash against negative hip hop lyrics.

As a rapper who regularly uses the b-word, n-word and h-word in his lyrics, EUR’s Lee Bailey asked 50 if he would “get with the program” and voluntarily remove offensive lyrics from his music. The rapper took offense at the phrasing of the question and said the following to Bailey:
“Are you familiar with politics? Are you familiar with the President’s No. 2 man? You’re familiar with him resigning based on him using, maybe what we’d call a dating service? Maybe he’s hanging out with hoes that we mention in the music. If that doesn’t make you aware of a situation that exists….
“Music is a mirror, and hip hop is a reflection of the environment that we grew up in. It’s the harsh realities that end up in the music. If I ask you to paint a picture of the American flag and not use the color red, you’re gonna have a difficult time. To capture what we try to capture in the art form, I’m sure some conservative Americans can’t [identify] with it because of their lifestyle and the way they’ve actually been brought up, and they haven’t been exposed to those realities.”
Bailey used Master P as an example of a rapper who made the decision to sign positive rappers from now on who do not use the three aforementioned words in their lyrics.
“Well Master P doesn’t sell CDs anymore,” 50 said calmly, which caused the room full of reporters to burst out laughing. “You can tell him I said it. Cameras is rollin’ right? …‘Curtis,’ June 26.”

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

:)
I definitely can't knock the hustle...

Denmark Vesey said...

True Sista Soteria. You can't knock the hustle. Nobody can.

But they damn sure trying. Which I suspect is the reason for the disproportionate and well organized "Hate Fiddy" campaign.

Something about a black man playing the game while not being played not only scares white folks, it scares a lot of "Anon" type Negros too.

The success and self-definition of cats like Curtis Jackson and Sean Carter removes the crutches of Post Civil Rights Negros still reaching out to Massa to empower them.

Anonymous said...

Can you handle the truth?

How many times did you say fiddy said he got shot?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1008041hiphop6.html

Check out the actual police report. Sounds like someone likes to make up shit for their street cred. And you fall for it :0

Anonymous said...

Was fiddy really some big time drug dealer? I don't think so.

FEBRUARY 27--So, what kind of a drug dealer was gangsta rapper 50 Cent, the 27-year-old Eminem protege whose debut record has been a chart-topping hit? Well, as a pusher, he made a girl do the dirty work, with his 16-year-old accomplice hiding their crack cocaine stash in her underpants, according to New York court records. 50 Cent--known as Curtis Jackson in indictments and recording contracts--was arrested twice in 1994 (the busts came three weeks apart) on felony drug charges. On June 29, Jackson and Taiesha Douse, his 16-year-old cohort, were nailed for selling four vials of cocaine to an undercover NYPD officer. According to court records--which you'll find on the first four of the following nine pages--Jackson steered the cop to Douse, who carried out the hand-to-hand transaction. When searched, Douse was found to be hiding 36 vials of crack in her panties and had 12 packets of heroin in a pants pocket, an NYPD evidence voucher shows.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/50cent1.html

Denmark Vesey said...

Was GW Bush a big time fighter pilot?

Was the attack on Pearl Harbor really a surprise?

Did Saddam really have WMD's?

Did Millions really die in gas chambers during WW2?

I'm more impressed with Fiddy if those things aren't true than if they were.

Casper, get a book on power, media and propaganda, sit down, read it, and get back to us.

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Anonymous said...

Your post is about fiddy... So if you want to debate the other topics bring it on. Otherwise Fiddy aka curtis jackson is an actor by day and an actor by night.

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper said...

Your post is about fiddy... So if you want to debate the other topics bring it on. Otherwise Fiddy aka curtis jackson is an actor by day and an actor by night.


Exactly Casper / Anon.

As is Obama. As is Al Sharpton. As is Clinton. As is Oprah.

Come on man, I know you've got your feelings hurt a few times, but don't drag down the discourse.

That's selfish.

Anonymous said...

So if Obama, Sharpton, Clinton, Oprah and Fiddy are all actors what makes Fiddy so different.

The "Drag down the discourse" statement is your attempt to deflect the true reason why you love fiddy so much. See as I see it your on the outside looking in. You have no more or less insight into Fiddy's moral/value system than the next Joe Smohe. You have no insight into how much control Interscope & Universal control Fiddy's image, prepped answers to certain questions etc. So I don't see this post as having any intellectual basis to drag down discourse. It's basically grocery store newstand gossip.

"Now if you wish to detail this:
It cracks me up that a former crack dealer from Queens continues to demonstrate a greater understanding of culture and media and chutzpah than thousands of so-called "educated" Negro products of Integrated Schools."

See you never explain your reasons/basis for your statements. Not that you are governed to ... but when you are challenged on them you attack versus using intellect to explain. Why is that?

Anonymous said...

Sheek Louch Finally Speaks on Diddy Beef and the 50 Cent Roadblock at Interscope

"The whole thing is, we were not trying to get off Interscope, we were gonna be under the same umbrella and go with Jay[-Z], which Jimmy Iovine was cool with," Sheek explained to SOHH.com. "But a lot of things were put in the way. Not to put everything on him, but ya boy 50 over there trying to stop Styles' project, and 'don't play this record,' etc. He couldn't get at us lyrically so he had to go other routes and it's not a fair fight over here. So we said we're gonna focus on everything we got coming from D-Block and [wait] until they get it together and are ready to talk real shit."


See there is alot about Fiddy you don't publish.. Why is that?


http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7888

Denmark Vesey said...

Casper said... "So if Obama, Sharpton, Clinton, Oprah and Fiddy are all actors what makes Fiddy so different?

The script. The director. The shift from the Status Quo Negro paradigm of perpetual victimization. In Fiddy's movie the black man gets the girl, the black man defeats the bad guy, the black man lives the good life.

The Fiddy's, the Jay-Z's have created black James Bond's and sold that imagery to millions. No differently than did Ian Flaming sell the image of a white superman.

In your old Plantation Negro movie, the black man is relegated to second class status at best, marginalized and ultimately dependent upon the largesse of white men for empowerment.

That's why young black people ignore you. That's why your hate is misdirected. That's why your little player hating cut and paste campaign against a brotha doing it as well as Fiddy is doing makes you look like a petty insecure hater.

If they can create myth Casper, why can't we?

Anonymous said...

It's sad when your the last one to get it.

RZA: "Rappers are glorifying their hell."

RZA unleashes thoughts on ghetto glorification.

RZA is sick of hip-hop's singlemindedness, and released a statement blasting rappers who paint the ghetto as a good place to be. According to various news sources, RZA said, "Hip-hop is just unbalanced. Right now, rappers are glorifying their hell. How you gonna tell me it's cool to live in the ghetto? Who wants to live where you got rats, roaches, pissy elevators, shootings, killings, rapings, drug addicts, alcoholics, all in a four-block radius?

"Now, out of nine Wu-Tang members, seven are felons... We were the problem of our communities, but we never bragged about it. We kept moving on about life," he continued. "But right now, these hip-hoppers are stuck on one thing. They stuck on sex and violence and drugs and partying. Life is way more than that. Especially the day after the party ends. When you get the f**k up the next day, what you gonna do?"

http://www.hiphophavoc4life.com/news/2007/04/rza-rappers-are-glorifying-their-hell.html

Denmark Vesey said...

RZA,

Another rapper who hasn't sold a record in years.


Give up Casper.

I feel like LeBron James dunking on a retarded kid.

It just aint fair.

Anonymous said...

Your funny you mean "Get Rich or Die Tryin'" written by Terence Winter(Jew) Directed & Produced by Jim Sheridan(Jew) 3 stars out of 10 on IMDB.

Plot: A tale of an inner city drug dealer who turns away from crime to pursue his passion, rap music.

Wow! original! I see your really an intellect DV

Anonymous said...

That's also funny DV cause last I looked you have sold zero (0) records in your lifetime. So how does that make you more credible on the subject matter than a legend of the Wu-Tang Clan my man?

Anonymous said...

Marvin attacking teenagers is cool as well I guess in Fiddy's world.

Home of rapper's ma sprayed with bullets

BY OREN YANIV and MICHAEL WHITE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS


A barrage of bullets riddled the Queens home of the mother of rap star Tony Yayo, recently arrested for assaulting a rival music mogul's 14-year-old son, cops said yesterday.

"I think they did it to send a message, but we are innocent people," said Yayo's 32-year-old sister, who did not want to be identified. "Either me or my daughter could have been dead."

Yayo, whose real name is Marvin Bernard, is a member of rap megastar 50 Cent's notorious G-Unit crew.

Yayo's sister and her 2-year-old daughter were upstairs when the fusillade pierced the home's front door and picture window Wednesday evening.

Bullet marks marred the ceilings and walls of the den.

Ballistic evidence recovered from the scene showed tha about 12 shots were fired from the street by a powerful weapon, authorities said, but it was unknown whether the shooter was on foot or in a car.

No witnesses had come forward as of last night.

"Is it safe for us to be here?" the rapper's mother asked her daughter yesterday afternoon as she got home, adding that she planned to sleep at a pal's house.

The case was referred to the NYPD's entertainment unit.

Yayo turned himself in to the authorities March 24 and was arraigned on misdemeanor charges of attacking the teen son of music industry rival Jimmy (Henchmen) Rosemond in Manhattan.

The rapper pleaded not guilty in Manhattan Criminal Court and was released on $5,000 bail.

Yayo's lawyer declined to comment yesterday.

http://www.hiphophavoc4life.com/news/2007/04/home-of-rappers-ma-sprayed-with-bullets.html

Anonymous said...

Go head.. Shout it DV AKA LJ like GWB.. "Mission Accomplished"!..

I think the retarded kid is about block your dunk.

Here it comes...Stay tuned

Denmark Vesey said...

Nah Hater,

Cut n Paste this:

LOS ANGELES
The actors and actresses playing American soldiers coming home from a tour of duty in Iraq in "Home of the Brave," opening in theaters today, must have done grueling research. They probably talked to men and women who have seen and experienced violence most of them can barely imagine -- with one exception.
Perhaps playing a soldier was a cakewalk for Curtis James Jackson III, better known as rap star 50 Cent.
Mr. Jackson's mother was murdered when he was just 8, and she was 23. He took up her profession and became a drug dealer at the tender age of 12. After two arrests, he turned his life around, heading into the studio with Jam Master Jay. But he still hadn't left his violent roots behind: In 2000, he was shot nine times at close range, miraculously surviving.
Mr. Jackson laughs off the suggestion the role required little preparation, though, saying he did as much research as his co-stars, who include Samuel L. Jackson and Jessica Biel.
But then, Mr. Jackson -- while he continues to record as 50 Cent, he is credited as Curtis Jackson in the film -- is trying to prove himself as an actor.
The 31-year-old star was discovered by Eminem and became one of the world's biggest rap stars, selling more than 20 million records worldwide with hits like "In da Club" and "Candy Shop." He made his film debut in the 2005 feature "Get Rich or Die Tryin'," which was directed by Jim Sheridan ("My Left Foot") and based on 50 Cent's own life. "Home of the Brave" is the first film in which he's really had to act. He plays a soldier who comes home broken after killing an Iraqi woman.
He impressed director Irwin Winkler, better known as the producer of films like "Rocky," "The Right Stuff" and "Good Fellas." The part was originally a much smaller one, but Mr. Winkler says, "We rewrote him because he was so good."
Mr. Jackson gets many scripts but chose this one because it was the kind of movie he likes watching. "I enjoy a lot of war films," he says. "Watching it from the perspective of entertainment is cool, like 'Black Hawk Down' or 'Full Metal Jacket.' " But his outlook became more serious after research brought him into contact with "real graphic images of real people."

Intellectual Insurgent said...

If rappers rap about the hood, they are glorifying (whatever that means) their hell. If they rap about their big ass houses they got through the rap game, they are glorifying abandoning their roots. Brothas can't get a break.

Why is it that Jews yammer on ad nauseum about the Holocaust but no one would even think of suggesting that they were glorifying their own hell?

Anonymous said...

Mark Friedman writer & Irwin Winkler director more Jews.. Hey it may be good who knows. Fiddy is good acting as a gansta so we will see. My man Sam Jackson is carrying the flick so the movie has a chance.

Oh that block is coming...

Anonymous said...

Jews I know in the Hamptons never mention Hitler. Talk about their material possesions quite often though. But I am gong to hit you with who really controls the messages that make it out to the mainstream. II do you think 50 and Snoop control what the mainstream get to hear?

Denmark Vesey said...

Intellectual Insurgent said...

"If rappers rap about the hood, they are glorifying (whatever that means) their hell. If they rap about their big ass houses they got through the rap game, they are glorifying abandoning their roots. Brothas can't get a break.

Why is it that Jews yammer on ad nauseum about the Holocaust but no one would even think of suggesting that they were glorifying their own hell? "


SIMPLY FUCKING BRILLIANT.

Thank God. I was starting to feel like I lived in a nation of Casper's.

Anonymous said...

II sorry let me address your statement. Apples and Oranges. Jews are not yammering about killing each other over a beat, gat in hand with some $500 per day women in g-strings in a Hummer with 24's last I looked. Secondly, thats their community. I don't justify my bullshit because of someone else's B.S.(if that's how you label it) because that's deflecting from my people's issues. Losing focus.. that's why we take forever to make positive change cuz Negro's get distracted very easy with topics that provide unlimited wealth 2 or 3 other Negros while screwing over millions others.

So once again who do you think control's the messages out of the mouth's of Snoop and Fiddy??

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Casper,

Control of the message isn't the point. It really isn't. Neither is whether elitists in the Hamptons are publicly whining about Hitler.

The point is that there are enough White people hatin' on brothas for makin' a living. Why do you feel the need to join the chorus? I don't agree or like a lot of what comes out of the mouth of Snoop or 50, but there are way more people who deserve to be put up for public crucifiction than these guys.

If we're talking about glorifying violence, why aren't we talking about "Army of One" commercials? Why aren't we talking about Godfather, Goodfellas and Terminator? Why aren't we talking about the neocons who are responsible for the deaths of millions around the world?

This notion that by discussing their backgrounds, these rappers are "glorifying" their hell is some of the most insulting propaganda I've read in a long time. This is how you keep the victims of the system silenced and marginalized, while the oppressors continue to enslave Black people via the faux war on drugs, war on poverty and all the other wars targeted towards the colored folk of the world.

I don't give a fuck what 50 says or does. There are MUCH bigger fish to fry. He gets the public flogging only after the REAL criminals, like the neocons and the Federal Reserve, are hanging from trees.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

I don't justify my bullshit because of someone else's B.S.(if that's how you label it) because that's deflecting from my people's issues.

Oh, and if you don't think that society-wide glorifications of violence don't influence rappers, why do rappers choose White names of masculinity and toughness like "Capone"? Hip hop/rap didn't create a glorification of violence. It just found its own niche in te industry. And, even if hip hop disappeared tomorrow, America, Blacks included, would still be a society of pathological violence.

Anonymous said...

II
"If we're talking about glorifying violence, why aren't we talking about "Army of One" commercials? Why aren't we talking about Godfather, Goodfellas and Terminator? Why aren't we talking about the neocons who are responsible for the deaths of millions around the world?"

Because once again you don't resolve your cold by giving aspirin to your co-worker. Stay on topic. Address the other items next.

Anonymous said...

II
"The point is that there are enough White people hatin' on brothas for makin' a living. Why do you feel the need to join the chorus? I don't agree or like a lot of what comes out of the mouth of Snoop or 50, but there are way more people who deserve to be put up for public crucifiction than these guys."

1)II 75% of rap cd sales are white people.
2)Fiddy's employers ... Interscope & Universal are white owned and controlled. 95% of the Hiphop indeurty is white owned and controlled.
3)As I see it there are more black dudes beefing with Fiddy and vis versa than white dudes.

Conclusion is I just don't see it the same way you do. Are they're white cats who dislike Fiddy. Yes. Are they're black cats who hate Fiddy yes and will cap him too. But who gave Fiddy his break in the game. Marshall and Jimmy..White Dudes who saw GREEN!

Intellectual Insurgent said...

What's there to address? You want 50 and Snoop to be choir boys and they aren't.

You, like many others who fall for the propaganda, are so terrified of being judged as "one of those" people so, in your panic, you want nothing more than to put the entire Black community in Sunday school clothing, and point to them with a big grin saying "see, we're little angels". You are demanding a level of perfection and morality from your community that doesn't exist anywhere else. But, because White America has deemed immorality among Blacks to be unique in some inexplicable way, you are quick to get on the defensive and try to fix it. Timonthy McVeigh blows up a building and he's an individual. Son of Sam was a Jew and he was an invidivual. Faceless Black man commits a crime and the statistics come pouring out.

Shutting down 50 and Snoop will do nothing to improve the state of Black America. Indeed, public floggings of them are propaganda distractions from the issues that will still be there, like war, deteriorating public schools, lack of fathers, etc.

But arguing about this nonsense sure keeps do gooders busy.

Anonymous said...

II
"I don't give a fuck what 50 says or does. There are MUCH bigger fish to fry. He gets the public flogging only after the REAL criminals, like the neocons and the Federal Reserve, are hanging from trees."

II all the others need to go to jail as well. In the mean time black on black crime is the #1 killer in my community. So I can not wait. Fiddy and other's need addressing now. It matters who controls the message because see cats like DV think it's Fiddy that's why he fights for Fiddy. It's like The Wizard of Oz. Once you know who you are really dealing with then you can address the real source of issues. We attack Fiddy because they have put him out there to spread the message. Fiddy is just an opportunist... Capitalism. So with that being said I ask you again who do you think controls the lyrics from the mouth's of Snoop and Fiddy?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

if 75% of rap sales are to White people, what's the problem? I've heard that argument many times over and it only proves my point even more. If, accepting your argument, rap poisons the youth with its glorification of hell, and 75% of the consumers of that poison are White, what exactly am I supposed to be upset about?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

You have not, and cannot, proved your implied argument that rap music causes black on black crime. That is a huge logical leap that doesn't work. Rap is an effect of that state of affairs, not a cause.

Anonymous said...

II
"Oh, and if you don't think that society-wide glorifications of violence don't influence rappers, why do rappers choose White names of masculinity and toughness like "Capone"? Hip hop/rap didn't create a glorification of violence. It just found its own niche in te industry. And, even if hip hop disappeared tomorrow, America, Blacks included, would still be a society of pathological violence."

They choose these names becuase some A&R 20 y.o. thinsk it will sell records. Teenagers who they sell to don't know who Al Capone was. Just sounds cool. Secondly, were I was raised I never saw an Italian gansta. None of my black friends have. Buty we sure enough had black dope dealers and drug lords running the streets. Remember many rap label's were funded with drug money. Murder Inc & Death Row are examples.

Anonymous said...

II
"Shutting down 50 and Snoop will do nothing to improve the state of Black America. Indeed, public floggings of them are propaganda distractions from the issues that will still be there, like war, deteriorating public schools, lack of fathers, etc."

First I never said shut them down. First of all they don't control/distribute their lyrics. Secondly if Snoop stopped rapping today what would black folks loose. What? just another minstrel. Snoop's money is not flowing to my community. Fiddy's money is not flowing to my community. There not telling my brother's and sister's to educate yourself to the best of your ability. Stay out of jail to the best of your ability. Read Marcus Garvey so that you know your black leaders. Know they are kooning about chains, gats, slinging, hoes.. Now I have a generation of teenagers who need another way to excel thanks to this bullshit.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

So what if rap labels were funded with drug money? More power to them. We should be celebrating that. The Bush family built its legacy on running moonshine. The Kennedys were 2-bit criminals. Ford made nice with Hitler and looted a number of Jewish estates in Germany. Wall St. makes its money on the slaughter of folks all over the world, but they are glamorized to no end.

This entire exchange reminds me of the absurdity of distinguishing "White collar" crime from other types of crime. "White collar" crime is what rich people commit and it's sanitized. "Violent crime" or "drug crime" is accompanied by a picture of a Black man with a menacing expression. But they are all the same.

And you still haven't proved that hip hop causes black on black killing.

Anonymous said...

II
I am not sure if you believe in research/studies... If you believe that rap music has zero effect on minority kids who download the shit for free and trade it that's why they don't buy it like the rich white kids. But listen and watch at a much higher rate. Then I really don't have the time to show you all the research that's out there funded from all types of sources. (even black controlled)

I leave it to you to educate yourself. Have an open mind. I have family members teenagers who I see first hand immitate the life. So you acn't tell me that there is no impact.

Anyway you are set in your position so unless you keep at it you will not change your position. Good Luck

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Secondly if Snoop stopped rapping today what would black folks loose.

A Black man with money. A Black man who tells Bill O'Reilly to "suck my dick". Someone who tells the racist pundits to come to his hood to debate him. Who actually shows what it is to not be a whiney bitch.

Education is great, but not when it makes you the minstrel in the law firm being treated like shit by your superiors, referred to as the affirmative action quote behind your back and ignored and/or undermined along the way. Or, you could be like the chumps at Morehouse who rescinded an invitation to Farrakhan because the Jewish benefactors don't like him. How is that any different?

Snoop's money is not flowing to my community. Fiddy's money is not flowing to my community.

Is Obama's? Is Sharpton's? Is Dick Parsons'?

Anonymous said...

II
So what if rap labels were funded with drug money? More power to them. We should be celebrating that. The Bush family built its legacy on running moonshine. The Kennedys were 2-bit criminals. Ford made nice with Hitler and looted a number of Jewish estates in Germany. Wall St. makes its money on the slaughter of folks all over the world, but they are glamorized to no end.

This is were I must end this debate. When one endorses selling drugs in and to my community I must say ... Good Day

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Actually, I find most studies to be bullshit. They are crafted in a way to prove whatever conclusion the people funding it want to prove.

For example, you say Black kids are downloading rap music for free but I will bet any amount of money that there's a study somewhere that says that Black kids are least likely to have computers in the home (a necessary prerequisite to downloading). Which is it because you don't get to have it both ways?

Anonymous said...

II

Plus you keep going off topic... Trying to justify B.S. with other people's B.S. Also, didn't my boy Fisher call you out. Your not even AA are you?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

You're just mad that you can't justify all your hollow slogans. Tell me again how rap music causes Black on Black violence.

Oh goodness, now who's going off topic? Tell me how my race has anything to do with the validity of my opinions.

Anonymous said...

II

Oh so I guess when you purchased your car, your home, your mutual fund, your insurance, your vacation, or chose your school you didn't research any of them....
GTFOOH


II
"The Bush family built its legacy on running moonshine. The Kennedys were 2-bit criminals. Ford made nice with Hitler and looted a number of Jewish estates in Germany."

So where did you get all this shit from. Don't tell me you witnessed it all firsthand.

Bullshitter

Anonymous said...

II
Tell me again how rap music causes Black on Black violence.

I shouldn't have to tell you if you are a black american?

WELL?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Huh?

Now you're just flailing. How did we go from hip hop to you telling me that you don't do anything until a research study tells you to?

Anonymous said...

II

Ask Fiddy why he wears a bullet proof vest & 4 man security when he is in the hood.. He'll tell you why.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

You're funny. You're telling me that if I were a Black American, I would intuitively know that Black on Black crime is caused by hip hop. Just by virtue of my race, that conclusion would be self-evident?

Anonymous said...

II

WELL? Still no answer... That's we call faking the funk! in the hood

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Oh geez, I'm Egyptian, as if that matters for anything. Do you feel better now?

Anonymous said...

II
Interesting.. So what if GWB was greenlighting Fiddy's lyrics would that matter to you?

Stay with me now.. Don't bring up another subject just yet.. Honest answer now..

Intellectual Insurgent said...

It would matter if GWB was writing them, yes.

Anonymous said...

OK... Good start... Would it matter to you if several wealthy jewish men greenlighted which songs made it on Fiddy's album and which ones did not based on the lyrics and subject. In other's word if he wrote a rap about police brutality but the jews said no we don't want to release that one regardless of what Fiddy thinks but instead replaced it with I am going to kill you and your family nig&* for my crack deal. Would that concern you?

Intellectual Insurgent said...

No doubt. But if he's writing the songs that are chosen, those are no less authentic or legitimate expressions of his experience than those that don't make the album.

Look, let's streamline the argument. It is the double standard. My beef here is a media that put first person shooter games in the hands of younger and younger children, with graphic images of decapitation, release horror films that are obscenely graphic virtually every month and then have the nerve to convince Black people that it is 50 Cent whose causing violence. Man, my generation (young 30's) grew up on NWA, "Fuck The Police", Ice-T, etc. and we turned out just fine.

I'm not willing, as you are, to assign the blame to rap music for things it's not causing. The vulgarity of rap is a sympton of much bigger problems, namely fatherlessness and parentlessness. Fatherlessness happening because of a war on drugs that is used to enslave Black men and tear them away from their families the way the slave trade did. Fatherlessness happening because of a service economy that is a race to the bottom, with Black men being marginalized out of the workforce (and, by no coincidence, captured in the justice system).

Publicly flogging 50 or Snoop will not address these issues. Shit, they are products of this state of affairs. I truly believe that, if well-meaning Black folks like yourself addressed the real causes of fatherlessness, the situation would improve and vulgar rap wouldn't be so appealing because the kids wouldn't be able to relate to it.

I hope you don't deem this off topic. :-)

Anonymous said...

II
I'm not willing, as you are, to assign the blame to rap music for things it's not causing.

1)You have not proving that it does not impact the youth. If you care to share email I will send you at least three University studies. That prove that it does. And put 2 of my younger cousins on the phone with you so that they care share their experience about the messages. Marketing/media is powerful. More powerful than the U.S. Military.

2)Understand that once the man rejects certain material/subject matter as a business man (Fiddy) first/ artist second one stops waisting his/her time on the matterial that's not going to fly. Understand his lyrics are effectively being written for him. If you care I will send you the transcripts from the radio talk show that explains exactly how Interscope and most major labels do business from the Interscope artist himself. $10Billion dollars worth.

Listen the U.S. is in the middle east for OIL... Money rules... Cam'ron told you point blank on National TV. He will rap about what sells. They all do.

Anonymous said...

II

BTW all those others things you mentioned are problems as well. I am a engineer and I was trained to not work on the foundation design at the same time as you work on the J forces of the roof. Focus on complex issues is always optimal for best results.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

My hubby is an engineer too. :-) Yes, you work on the foundation first.

Perhaps this is where we diverge. I think that the fatherlessness/parentlessness problem is the foundation. Not the music. If a father figure isn't around, what difference will it make if 50 changes his tune? A kid without parents is a lost soul, and if it isn't drug dealing, it will be the military, which isn't any better. The media can't get past a solid set of parents and it seems to me that should be where the energies are focused.

Anonymous said...

Family structure is the primary issue. But 50 Cent ain't helpin' any, especially when he's got Jimmy Iovine looking over his shoulder.

Big j

Anonymous said...

peep TIs perspective...

http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/player.swf?autoplay=0&Addr=http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos&v=http://lax-v92.lax.&play=0&vCode=-HYvHGo5ce8

Anonymous said...

II

We have a better chance and with faster result to resolve the wack lyrics than we do the generations of family structure. Additional wyou have to address the marketing beofre you begin to addres the change in family values. otherwise you will be competing with the wack lyrics. Understand. You have to fix the hole in the roof before you repair the crumbling foundation.

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Michael Fisher said...

casper,

send ME those studies please. e-mail:

assaultonblacksanity@gmail.com

I would greatly apreciate it

Michael Fisher said...

LOL

Oh Shit.

DV, my bro.

You know I love ya, but Casper just tore you a brand new asshole.

Yo, Casper, let that "liberal" white girl be. She still ain't cleaned up her own backyard. You know, still refuses to denounce Dafur and the Mauritanian black slave-trading Arabs and that other racist anti-black Arab shit.

Let her instead wax poetically about her Canadian boy Belly. Now THAT's a weak ass fake ass rapper.

Denmark Vesey said...

Now Mike,

You know you my boy. But Bra .... Please. Just cuz Intellectual Insurgent kicked your ass, don't even PRETEND like you believe Casper didn't just get the shit stomped out of him.

It was like killing a mental ant with an intellectual Sledge Hammer.

Obviously you are joking.

If you can't handle Insurgent, how the hell is Casper?

G.T.F.O.O.H.

Denmark Vesey said...

Big J said ...
"Family structure is the primary issue. But 50 Cent ain't helpin' any, especially when he's got Jimmy Iovine looking over his shoulder."

What are you talking about?

"got Jimmy Ioving looking over his shoulder"?

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Why do you feel compelled to attribute Curtis Jackson's enormous success, media savvy and creative genius to a white man?

Is there anyone "looking over" Barack Obama's shoulder?

Anyone looking over Oprah's shoulder?

Anyone looking over Parson's shoulder?

Anyone looking over George W. Bush's shoulder?

I'm very interested in this phenomena of holding rappers to a standard of autonomy that we wouldn't dream of holding ourselves.

Michael Fisher said...

"It was like killing a mental ant with an intellectual Sledge Hammer."

LOL.

Oh, my Bro, u already leaking brain mass through that new hole.

Sheet, Casper tore you so wide open you better stay away from Santa Monica Blvd. Them Batty Boys over there will smell your BS 10 miles against the wind and'll plug that new Casper hole up faster than you can say "Mike IS Right"

Anonymous said...

DV... You aint doing nothing but a house negro protecting the white man's(Jew) investment son. Keep up the good work. We are interested in knowing how much they paying you. Guess that dunk got blocked by the retarded kid. So what does that make you son.

http://www.blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=3241

Read on ..

Fear Of Intelligent Blacks

By Wise Intelligent

April 23rd, 2007

WORDS OF WISE-DOM



Recently, rapper Young Buck made an appearance on New York's Hot 97's Angie Martinez's show to promote his new album "Buck the World", the first single of which is incredible—I love that record.

You know, it was pretty much your typical rap interview except for one revealing exchange in particular. This was when Young Buck spoke of a record addressing Police Brutality that unfortunately did not make it. He revealed in the interview that Interscope Records—home of Dr. Dre's Aftermath, Shady Records; Emenim, G Unit; 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, Young Buck; The Lox; Jada Kiss, Styles and Sheik, amongst others--has an official "Lyrics Committee."

Buck stated that it was this Interscope "Lyrics committee" (more like committee of one person; Jimmy Iovine) that decided it best to leave the police brutality track off of the album. Their reasoning being that Interscope/Jimmy Iovine felt the record that portrayed violence against police officers could heighten the chances of a police officer getting shot or killed and that Interscope did not want to be responsible in whole or in part for the death of a police officer. The interview went sort of like this:

Anonymous said...

1 of many studies..

http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20030303/does-rap-put-teens-at-risk

Anonymous said...

When we consider the fact that it was Jimmy Iovine who posed on a cover in the 70's with the words "Rock & Roll Niggers" painted on his chest, we get a greater understanding of this beast.