I saw this.Have a question. What would the counter or true agenda be? Am familiar with the notion that folks should have a healthy skepticism for campaigns for "justice" in the media. But in this situation, what would the true agenda be in pushing this issue?
Denmark Vesey said ...
Hey RJ,
Interesting question.
I see it a bit differently.
KONY 2012 was a "pushed" meme.
ZIMMERMAN 2012 is a "pulled" meme.
KONY 2012 was designed to illicit a particular reaction from a group of people. It was pushed because it fits the globalist agenda of raping Africa via "Humanitarian wars" and "Humanitarian vaccines".
Its goal is to trick the peasantry into "demanding" intervention (liberal word for invasion).
ZIMMERMAN 2012 is being "pulled" via social media. Fueled by Black outrage this meme exploded to become the cause du jour. Half the cats on Facebook have already changed their profile pictures to that of young Travon Martin.
Its goal? To serve as proof white people still have power in this country and perpetuating the perception that being a black man is inherently dangerous and a disadvantage.
Yes. Zimmerman 2012 affirms the Plantation Negro mantra: The Global System of White Supremacy.
The Plantation drove the KONY meme.
The occupants of the Plantation drive the ZIMMERMAN meme.
Why? Because many Black people perceive danger from white people to be a more grave threat than danger from other Black people.
Evidence of that: Were Travon Martin shot by Quintavious Booker ... none of us would have ever heard of him.
For every Travon Martin shot by a "George Zimmerman" ... 20 or 30 will be shot by a JaMarcus Johnson. (Shout out to Undercover Blackman).
For every Travon Martin shot by a George Zimmerman ... 200 to 300 Travon Martins will be killed by the food they put into their own mouths. (Shout out to Denmark Vesey).
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I have no problem with outrage directed towards Zimmerman. I will be particularly impressed if something is done with that outrage other then a collective Negro head shake, despair and hollow demands "dat duh Guvament doo Summin!"
I will be more impressed with outrage and demands to do something about the "JaMarcus Johnson's" who kill multiple Travon Martin's everyday.
I will be even more impressed with outrage at ourselves for feeding ourselves food GUARANTEED to give us diabetes and to kill us.
That's a meme that we should really blow up via social media.
Hell. That's the meme I've been pushing since '07. Hustle Hard.
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Brother DV:
Don't doubt the power of George Zimmerman.
Some attribute that he has in his possession has triggered a "1,000,000 Hoodie March" slated for New York City over the next few days.
Something about him is triggering a convoy of buses to depart - from Atlanta for example (9 hours away) - to fight for "Justice For Black People".
Hey Feed.
Not sure I follow.
Please elaborate.
With all your grandiosity, this is what you post? Seriously!
What would you post ... Brandon?
My point is that those who are angered about what George Zimmerman did are able to use him as the catalyst to say "Stop Killing Black People". A sentiment that the past 50 Black people murdered in their city were not able to motivated them take a stand against - since that last "Civil Rights Violation" they protested against.
In so many words - "Racial Tribalism" can turn into "Non-White White Supremacy" if allowed to become too asymmetric.
The truth is - the people who receive our "confidence" yet failed to construct the necessary conscious order within the Black community that would assist us in mitigating our internal "Black homicide victimization rate" - down closer to our population proportions - understand that the more we are riled up about an OUTSIDER - the more likely it is for them to be left off of the hook for failing to develop our people via the "Human Resource Development Institutions" that they now control within our communities.
I saw this. Have a question. What would the counter or true agenda be? Am familiar with the notion that folks should have a healthy skepticism for campaigns for "justice" in the media. But in this situation, what would the true agenda be in pushing this issue?
RJEsq
"To serve as proof white people still have power in this country and perpetuating the perception that being a black man is inherently dangerous and a disadvantage."
Nah, bruh. That white boy didn't have any power. Evident in that he ended up with a bloody nose and head before he managed to pull that gun out. The gun had the power.
I hear where you're coming from with the "Jamarcus Johnson" example. But that does not negate that some are simply scared to death of black men. They fear us, not because they have some inherent power, but because they realize we do. Me acknowledging that some may see me as a threat is not confirming white supremacy, it's acknowledging my own power.
A power so intense that a white boy walking his huge doberman would tell him to sic me when I was simply walking back from working on my game (in 2000 btw).
An inherent resilience so strong that groups of white boys would try to jump me at school.
A swagger so tough that white girls would beat down the door of my dorm, completely against the wishes of their families and friends.
The same reason people bugged out over Floyd mentioning Lin.
Or why people won't accept anything less than a ring out of Lebron.
Or why people cringe at the likes of Lil B or Young Jeezy gettin money.
Fuck White Supremacy...
And Black Supremacy.
My power is God-given. And therefore as Jay Elec said,
"They don't hate me, they hate God--I ain't make me."
In this situation, I don't care if there's an agenda. I see that child's face and it makes me sad. That a little boy, who could be the son of anyone I know, walking home from the store gets gunned down in the street. I look ahead to my own child as a teenager. It hurts my heart. And if there is some propaganda that is being pushed by keeping the name Trayvon Martin in the news, I will be a sheep this time. So be it.
What's up A?
"Nah, bruh. That white boy didn't have any power. Evident in that he ended up with a bloody nose and head before he managed to pull that gun out. The gun had the power." A
Guns don't kill people.
"I hear where you're coming from with the "Jamarcus Johnson" example. But that does not negate that some are simply scared to death of black men. They fear us, not because they have some inherent power, but because they realize we do. Me acknowledging that some may see me as a threat is not confirming white supremacy, it's acknowledging my own power." A
I feel you man.
Been hearing that mantra since the early 1970's.
However, I don't see much value in that meme.
"They" fear "us"?
1) Who is "They"?
2) Who is "Us"?
3) Do "They" fear all of "us" or just some of "us"?
4) Do some of "us" fear others of "us"?
I ask these questions because I am challenging the underlying presumptions of the never ending race war.
I think individuals fear.
I think individuals are feared.
The individual Travon Martin was killed by the individual George Zimmerman.
Did race have something to do with it? Of course.
If the individual Travon Martin had been killed by the individual JaMarcus Johnson, would race have anything to do with it?
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I think so.
As long as we play the game of Group Identity politics ... we will always be the victims of the Left v Right dialectic.
I want to beat the shit out of George Zimmerman.
But not because 'he's white' and he shot Travon Martin.
But because he's a bitch ass coward.
I'd also like to beat the shit out of JaMarcus Johnson, if he'd shot Travon Martin.
Because he too is a bitch ass coward.
Race aint the problem.
Bitch ass cowards are the problem.
Mar 22, 2012 3:18:00 PM
In this situation, I don't care if there's an agenda. I see that child's face and it makes me sad. That a little boy, who could be the son of anyone I know, walking home from the store gets gunned down in the street. I look ahead to my own child as a teenager. It hurts my heart. And if there is some propaganda that is being pushed by keeping the name Trayvon Martin in the news, I will be a sheep this time. So be it.
Nah Sasha.
My whole family walking around with their heads low behind this one.
Something about that little boy hits home.
Beyond sad.
However, if we are truly interested in protecting the lives of our future Travon Martins, we have to resist getting sucked into the over simplified white v black race game.
Travon wasn't killed by "white people".
Travon was killed by George Zimmerman.
Anybody want to march on that muhfuggas house, I'm down.
The Al Sharpton routine, I can do without.
Bro DV:
You have been spot on recently. If you keep this up I am going to be forced to look past your indiscretions on the redeeming social values of Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj.
I stated previously:
JOB #1 for the BLACK RACIAL SERVICES MACHINE is to forge "CONGREGATIONAL UNITY" among Black people.
You are 100% correct that they need to promote a THREAT (racism) to Black people - as a necessary means of having Black people to look past their FAILURE TO DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITY.
They have amasses a large fortune of "Equal Black Ballots" as they compelled to have our people invest our "BLACK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONSCIOUSNESS" into their scheme.
Ordinarily when convinces you to make an investment YOU will display a measure of fiduciary responsibility as you monitor the balance on your portfolio.
IF, however, a force that knows you best also knows that they can get you to put your interests on a forbearance - they will be seen constantly executing "Black Community Conscious Attention Filibustering" as a means of stringing our people along.
With all due respect - we must bring forth the notion of NON-WHITE WHITE SUPREMACY.
This is the label that I have created to define a BLACK PERSON (non-White) who operates with the belief that WHITE PEOPLE ARE SUPERIOR TO BLACKS.
A few weeks ago the National Urban League in its "State Of Black America Report" has AGAIN indexed THE WHITE MAN as the PERFECT 1.0 while Blacks and Hispanics were a fraction of him.
With this consciousness at play - it there any surprise that The Grio.com today has an article that details all of THE BLACKS who were killed by cops or White folks - but can't bring itself to go beyond the "Exclusive 10" and focus on the (estimated) 70,000 Blacks who were MURDERED over the past 10 years.
The bottom line - the BLACK COMMUNITY cannot allow ACTIVISTS to become BLACK COMMUNITY MANAGERS. They only know how to go after their marginal interests while they outsource all other responsibilities to the nation under the guise of "Social Justice".
Whaddup DV,
1) Who is "They"?
White people who fear blacks. I gave you a few examples in my first post.
2) Who is "Us"?
Blacks who are feared.
3) Do "They" fear all of "us" or just some of "us"?
Yes, "they" fear all of us, but especially the "us" that have the nerve to be comfortable being "us."
4) Do some of "us" fear others of "us"?
Hell yea, some of "us" fear others of "us." Because they have been conditioned to.
"Guns don't kill people."
Agreed. George Zimmerman's bitch ass did kill him, but it does not take "power" to pull a trigger. That like saying the lil knuckle heads on my block who jump random people have "power." How much power does it take to jump one person with 7 people? That's supreme bitchassness in my book.
Without that pistol, George Zimmerman would have gotten his ass whooped by a 17-yr old 100lbs lighter than him.
Call it group identity politics if you want, but some white people are scared to death of us. They feel threatened by our very existence
...and the "bitch ass cowards vs men" argument you present is a different side of the same coin if you ask me.
I love HUMAN BEINGS, and I also realize some love/hate me because the color of my skin. Most important, obviously, is that I love me.
Add walking while Black in a gated community to the racial-profiling list. I imagine that Trayvon’s father, living in a gated community, expected his son to be safe from the JaMarcus Johnson’s of the world. He probably never anticipated that his son would be confronted by a George Zimmerman, who considers Black people to be “fu*king coons.”
“I have no problem with outrage directed towards Zimmerman.” – DV
Is this the same DV who criticized outrage over the killings of Oscar Grant and Derrion Albert?
“Trayvon Martin didn’t die so we can create a race war he died so we can promote better understanding. We must start honest dialogue.”—Russell Simmons
What Simmons is really saying is that an explosive racial issue could hurt Obama’s chances for reelection. That’s why Sharpton is joining the protest-to keep things from getting out of control. During this election year Afrikan Americans will be expected to “sacrifice truth and justice (be it Trayvon Martin or Tawergha) on the altar of perceived self-interest (the reelection of Barack Obama).”
http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/03/05/libya-bolster-security-tawergha-camps
I suppose Jonatha Carr represents Russell Simmons' greatest fear.
http://yourblackworld.net/2012/03/black-news/florida-student-becomes-violent-in-class-over-trayvon-martin-incident/
"What Simmons is really saying is that an explosive racial issue could hurt Obama’s chances for reelection. That’s why Sharpton is joining the protest-to keep things from getting out of control." MB
Hey Mak.
1) Obama's "chances of reelection" have nothing to do with this.
Obama was never "elected". He was selected.
He will be selected again.
2) Shartpon? Keep protests from getting out of control?
Come on bra.
Quit playing.
Aint no protests going to "get out of control".
The Plantation Negro Usual Suspects will mouth off for a week or so and then move on.
Notice how so many people are bending over backwards to make "more" out of this murder than it really is.
Travon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman.
Prosecute George Zimmerman.
Everything else is talk, distractions, and protests for the sake of protests that do more for the emotional needs of the protestors than the safety of other young Travon Martin's.
"Do some of "us" fear others of "us"?
Hell yea, some of "us" fear others of "us." Because they have been conditioned to." Agüeybaná
A ...
Do you think the fact that a black man in America is 1200% more likely to be murdered by another black man than by a white man ... has much to do with the "conditioning" that makes many blacks fear other blacks?
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Again.
This case is murder.
It is not race.
Trying to fix a problem of guns and violence by fixing racial attitudes is like trying to put out a house fire by mowing the lawn.
DV...
Yes, I do believe conditioning has to do with blacks fearing each other. How much exactly? I mean, I could make up a percentage...
Do you think more blacks being killed by blacks than by whites has anything to do with the long-term disinterest on part of the government and media regarding the value of a black life?
Or does the government only impact what people eat?
I don't recall advocating for "fixing" racial attitudes, but instead embracing the reality that racial tension exists. And it can have ugly consequences. You can cover your eyes and try to wish it away like the boogeyman all you want, but your cute nickname in itself reflects your conditioning.
... a murder? Yea, that's part of it. If race were out of the question, you'd be some shit like,
"The most non-conformist man on the internet."
"Do you think more blacks being killed by blacks than by whites has anything to do with the long-term disinterest on part of the government and media regarding the value of a black life?" Agueybana
I don't understand what that means A.
"long-term disinterest on the part of the government and media"?
"value of black life" ?
WHAT does that mean exactly?
I hear it all the time.
But it sounds like words.
HOW CAN A ... GOVERNMENT ... VALUE ... BLACK ... LIFE?
HOW CAN THE MEDIA ... VALUE ... BLACK LIFE?
QUESTION:
DO BLACK PEOPLE VALUE THEIR OWN FUCKING LIVES?
(If they did, would they eat the way they do?)
I think it is GENOCIDE for Black people to outsource the value of their lives to the GOVERNMENT or to the MEDIA.
Seems to me the only time we hear about the "VALUE OF BLACK LIFE" ... from Black people ... is when some random white boy kills one of us.
Yet ... pork eating, genetically modified, Plantation Negros on prescription drugs kill THEMSELVES and other Black people EVERY DAY.
What do we hear from Black folks?
... crickets ...
... crickets ...
Let some random white boy kill one of us and Black people flock by the millions to worship the GOD OF RACISM.
Racism did not kill Travon Martin.
George Zimmerman did.
I suggest Black people do something about that motherfucker and quit demanding shit from the Government.
You're too smart to play dumb, DV.
The government historically has been run by individuals who have demonstrated they are only interested in advancing the cause of those who already have money--which, historically, has not been black people.
Is the government responsible for my success as a black man.
Hell no.
But I am simply diagnosing underlying influences on how some blacks view themselves. You act like people live in a vacuum where the decisions of politicians and the media do not impact how people view themselves.
If that were the case, why the hell would you have endless images of skinny chicks all over your page. Is it a coincidence they all look the same? Did you invent your own concept of beauty?
Where the big bitches at?
You frontin right now.
"DO BLACK PEOPLE VALUE THEIR OWN FUCKING LIVES?"
Yup. If they can see through the fog. If they have been taught to.
I commend you for caring about what you put in your body.
Brothas been promoting that shit since the 60s. I have a few books I can recommend. They get no media coverage.
Because there's not a march on CNN about proper diet don't mean we're not hip. I know you remember that Gil Scott Heron quote...
"You act like people live in a vacuum where the decisions of politicians and the media do not impact how people view themselves." Agueybana
No.
That's not true A.
The "decisions" of politicians and the media CERTAINLY do impact how some people view themselves.
Those people are called:
PLANTATION NEGROS.
People who determine how to view themselves are called BLACK PEOPLE.
"If that were the case, why the hell would you have endless images of skinny chicks all over your page." Agueybana
1) Just because a sista is not built like Cee Lo Green ... does NOT mean she is skinny.
2) I place images because I don't wait for duh "guvament" nor "duh mee dee uh" to place images before me.
Act. Don't react.
Is it a coincidence they all look the same? Did you invent your own concept of beauty?
1) They don't look the same. They look quite differently actually.
You just don't see the images of black women you've been conditioned to see.
2) Invent my concept of beauty? No.
It was given to me by God.
"Where the big bitches at?" Agueybana
At Walmart, Chick fil A, Waffle House and Subways
"You frontin right now." Agueyabana
You in school right now.
"DO BLACK PEOPLE VALUE THEIR OWN FUCKING LIVES?"
Yup. If they can see through the fog. If they have been taught to.
I commend you for caring about what you put in your body.
Brothas been promoting that shit since the 60s. I have a few books I can recommend. They get no media coverage.
Because there's not a march on CNN about proper diet don't mean we're not hip. I know you remember that Gil Scott Heron quote..."
I feel you A.
But I don't think you feel me.
Don't matter black people are "hip".
"Hip" Negros are still dying of diabetes.
They are dying at a faster clip than Jews died of gas during the Holocaust.
Imagine Jews protesting the shooting of 1 Jew by a German ... when thousands were being gassed by Nazis.
Black folks gotta stay on point.
Racism is a deliberate distraction.
"Imagine Jews protesting the shooting of 1 Jew by a German ... when thousands were being gassed by Nazis."
I feel you. Kinda.
That example is an overt massacre of Jewish people. The devil's food diet is a more covert massacre of anyone who will eat it. A little more complex.
"Black folks gotta stay on point.
Racism is a deliberate distraction."
*pound* That, I feel 1000%.
"You in school right now."
Indeed. And you're starting to become one of my preferred classmates.
Racism did not kill Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman did.—DV
In other words Zimmerman has lived in a bubble. American history; culture (media images); education (mis-education); economics (crime); and politics (laws) have had no impact on him. When following Martin, he uses the term “f*cking coons” just out of the clear blue. No phenomena influenced his cognitive processes whatsoever.
Bullshit!!!!!!!!!! Zimmerman (a Hispanic), was driven, within the scope of his perceived duties, by the same mentality which produced Darryl Dedmon, Dylan Butler and John Rice, the murderers of James Craig Anderson in Jackson, Ms.
"This is a case about a group of racist thugs who made a sport of targeting vulnerable African Americans in Jackson, and attacking them without provocation, simply because of the color of their skin," said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division.
"On a number of occasions, they drove around Jackson looking for African Americans to assault. Jackson is a venerable community. However, for these defendants, Jackson was 'Jafrica'; African Americans were subhuman, and their mission was to drive around Jackson looking for African Americans to attack."
The actions of Dedmon,19, Butler, 20, and Rice, 19, culminated in the early morning of June 26 when Anderson, 47, was attacked and then run over by Dedmon.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120323/NEWS/303230004/3-plead-guilty-hate-crime?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home
White supremacy, driven by ethnocentrism and xenophobia, and intricately woven into America’s social fabric affects everyone, consciously and unconsciously. That is everyone except George Zimmerman!
On a somber note, it was a tragic weekend for college students in Mississippi.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120325/NEWS/120325002/JSU-student-shot-death-near-campus?odyssey=mod|mostview
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120325/NEWS/120325003/MSU-shooting-victim-ID-d-student-from-Madison?odyssey=mod|mostview
The MSU student may have been killed by a Black male. Let’s see how this story plays out in the MSM.
This is a simple collusion between self-annihilating whites in the media and the "black" liberationist collective to maximize their radical autonomy AT THE EXPENSE of "white Supremacy." Zero-sum war for those voluntarily confined to the plantation.
As this case unfolds, we are witness to the true degeneracy of the self-annihilating white liberal and the manner in which the "black" liberationist collective will pervert reality in order to feverishly facilitate the radical white degenerate in progressing towards "final liberation," i.e., self-annihilation.
Bradley,
If "white supremacy" equals white degenerates driving around looking for innocent blacks to hurt and kill then does that mean "black supremacy" equals black flash mobs and "polar bear hunting?"
How does your formulation come about?
Are these black protests "black supremacy" or black degeneracy, i.e., black radical autonomy?
Aren't the lies getting a little too thick at this point?
A Black man to Zimmerman's rescue.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/video-trayvon-martin-s-shooter-defended-by-friend-28727605.html
does that mean "black supremacy" equals black flash mobs and "polar bear hunting?" – Thor
You’ll have to ask your BFF DV about “black supremacy.” That’s his concept, not mine.
How does your formulation come about? – Thor
What formulation are you asking about? It appears to me that you have an inordinate fear of the genetic annihilation of “white people.” Relax dude, and get a load of Sinead O’Connor.
http://www.askkissy.com/2012/03/25/sinead-oconnors-open-letter-on-trayvon-martin-we-are-all-descendants-of-one-african-woman/#ixzz1qHKdgBPJ
Are these black protests "black supremacy" or black degeneracy, i.e., black radical autonomy? – Thor
Please refer all questions about “black supremacy” to your BFF. What are these protests about?
Lebron James: "We Want Justice." Dwayne Wade: "As a father, this hits home.”
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7728618/miami-heat-don-hoodies-response-death-teen-trayvon-martin
Bradley,
Bob, weave and duck.
It's looking more and more like the "black" liberationist collective is in full "radical autonomy."
So is it any wonder why a "black" liberationist such as yourself is completely oblivious to black Supremacy?
Are you really comfortable with this near unprecedented bare naked display of black degeneracy? The perversion of reality is almost surreal.
Dude, I understand that thought about the shrinking white global population is psychologically traumatizing—the fear of a Black planet. No one is going to force you to change your name to Lumumba; to learn a Bantu language; to eat cassava; to wear a grand buba; to worship Amon-Ra; to hate straight hair, narrow noses, thin lips, flat butts, and white skin. We would not waste our time trying to do to you what you’ve done to us. But if you’re still scared, go live with your BFF. I’m sure he’ll protect you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ1hRFeU9m0
Bradley,
No one here is worrying about "genetic annihilation."
What is worth worrying about is the utter pathology of the "black" liberationist collective that absolutely abhors ANYONE that dare seek to strive towards Supremacy.
Is it not worth worrying that your embrace of self-annihilation MEANS you absolutely WILL NOT be caught dead attempting to be a black Supremacist?
Is it not worth worrying that your pathological mindset might be extremely infectious? As in, you will not be a black Supremacist and so no white man may be a Supremacist either?
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