Feminism was a trick of government and corporations to compel women to join the workforce. Expanding the economy and creating an entire new class of consumers.
"Instead of attempting to force women into work, government and business used the pathologically selfish psychology of women to make women choose to go to work themselves. This is not to say women had easy lives before feminism. But what is true is that women's lives were more focused on the needs of their families. Where as now women are forced to be more focused on their 9 to 5 jobs."
Kit (Keep It Trill) said...
I was talking about this to my daughter last week. It's a complex issue.As I see it, women and their husbands were lured into wanting two incomes, which would increase market productivity. Nothing wrong with two paychecks, and this gave Americans great personal wealth - until credit card use became the norm in the '80s.
Note that now it takes two paychecks to live like you used to with one.
What I think is that women should have focused on wanted equal pay for equal work. There was a one sentence add on for the Constitution for this - but it was repeated defeated. I forget what it was called.
The beneficial side of the women's movement is higher education, the freedom to escape shitty, abusive marriages, and more women could enter careers they were attracted to.
I'm not insensitive to the needs of children of working mothers. I'll tell you, DV, after your last child leaves elementary school, sitting around the house for a lot of women is boring as hell. I'm all for sacrificing that time period until a child is 12, but after that, she needs something to do.
Prior to the movement, white women had the Flower Club. Black women have always had to work. Now white women are part of the new plantation, and feminism combined with the corporatocracy got them there.
Given my druthers, I'd rather have equality...
Denmark Vesey said ...
Sista Kit. You got me thinking.Let's look at some of these assumptions:
1) "Nothing wrong with two paychecks, and this gave Americans great personal wealth" KW
Greater wealth? Did it really give greater wealth? What are some examples of that wealth? What wealth do we have in 2010 we did not have in 1940?
2) "What I think is that women should have focused on wanted equal pay for equal work."
What does that really ... really ... REALLY ... mean.
I mean, I've had dozens of jobs since I was 13.
Not ONCE did they pay me more than a woman in the same position.
Not ONCE.
What is that 'Meme' about?
It seems like women have been saying it since my mother's day ... has anyone ever stopped to examine that assumption? WHERE DOES THAT HAPPEN?
3) "The beneficial side of the women's movement is higher education" Kit
Are women REALLY more "highly" educated than they were 50 years ago? That's one hell of a statement. Did the Fe-Man-ist Movement really deliver "Higher Education" to women?
To whom can we point and identify as genuinely "highly" educated?
4) "the freedom to escape shitty, abusive marriages" Kit
Come now.
"Freedom" ... "escape" ... "abusive" ... "marriages".
I don't know about that one Sista Kit.
I think painting marriage as miserable and something from which to "escape" was a head fake designed to seed discontent among women and to portray broken families as some sort of macabre treat.
My Aunt "escaped" her "abusive" marriage in her 30's.
Now she's 60 and trapped in an abusive and lonely single-hood.
I think that one is relative.
5) "after your last child leaves elementary school, sitting around the house for a lot of women is boring as hell." KIT
Yes. I can see that. However I'm not sure if sitting in a cubicle, staring at a computer screen in fear of layoffs is any less boring.
Let's compare apples to apples.
Work does not necessarily equal "interested engagement".
6) "Given my druthers, I'd rather have equality..." Kit
Sista Kit. If you had "equality" ... how would you know? What does "equality" look like?
I ask because "equality" appears function much like the meme called "ending of racism" - a ubiquitous omnipresent abstraction to be pursued ... but never attained.
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Dam that's real talk.
I was talking about this to my daughter last week. It's a complex issue.
As I see it, women and their husbands were lured into wanting two incomes, which would increase market productivity. Nothing wrong with two paychecks, and this gave Americans great personal wealth - until credit card use became the norm in the '80s.
Note that now it takes two paychecks to live like you used to with one.
What I think is that women should have focused on wanted equal pay for equal work. There was a one sentence add on for the Constitution for this - but it was repeated defeated. I forget what it was called.
The beneficial side of the women's movement is higher education, the freedom to escape shitty, abusive marriages, and more women could enter careers they were attracted to.
I'm not insensitive to the needs of children of working mothers. I'll tell you, DV, after your last child leaves elementary school, sitting around the house for a lot of women is boring as hell. I'm all for sacrificing that time period until a child is 12, but after that, she needs something to do.
Prior to the movement, white women had the Flower Club. Black women have always had to work. Now white women are part of the new plantation, and feminism combined with the corporatocracy got them there.
Given my druthers, I'd rather have equality...
Everybody's more concerned about their 9 to 5. We're in a Plantation Recession.
Fmailies use to make something from nothing, make due with little and made well with the lot.
First, what is erroneously referred to as "feminism" is actually devout dykism.
The fact that more females are working arose from DEVOUT DYKE'S hatred for heterosexual commitment. Mimicking the meme that abhorred men and children LEFT THE SHEEP WITH NO OTHER CHOICE but to work.
And now the anti-heterosexual memetic momentum makes working a MANDATORY RESPONSIBILITY for all females.
So in reality, most of these working females ARE BEGINNING TO RECOGNIZE that a fat bank account and a silent abode invites the most squirliest of males and the one that might be the one...
Does a Man let his Lady work outside the house?
Because the devout dyke both worships and hates Alpha Man, we see its predictable action throughout society. Devout dyke wants to be in Alpha Man's club AND wants to USURP Alpha Man at the top of the food chain. The "butch" is exhibit A. "Butch" is Alpha Man imposter, i.e., anti-man. But the worship is UNDENIABLE. "Butch" wants to be BAD BOY who tames vageen and scares the buhjeezy out of other dudes.
That fact that an increasingly sexually autonomous female demographic MIMICKS this growing legion of devout dykes is really the extinction of Alpha Man...
Which is to say that the mass of females don't have a clue of what they are really attempting to accomplish.
The End of Men
Earlier this year, women became the majority of the workforce for the first time in U.S. history. Most managers are now women too. And for every two men who get a college degree this year, three women will do the same. For years, women’s progress has been cast as a struggle for equality. But what if equality isn’t the end point? What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? A report on the unprecedented role reversal now under way— and its vast cultural consequences.
Whether you accept your uselessness and go quietly into that dark night of oblivion and obsolesence is of little consequence Farst. The die have been cast, and fewer than 14% if the total U.S. population is productively employed, (food, resources, manufacturing, medicine, science, engineering) - and that's not going to change for the better any time along forseeable economic horizons.
Matter fact, for the next couple decades, things are going to become real severe. There is a tidbit of good news in the mix however;
Men dominate just two of the 15 job categories projected to grow the most over the next decade: janitor and computer engineer. Women have everything else—nursing, home health assistance, child care, food preparation. Many of the new jobs, says Heather Boushey of the Center for American Progress, “replace the things that women used to do in the home for free.” None is especially high-paying. But the steady accumulation of these jobs adds up to an economy that, for the working class, has become more amenable to women than to men.
Which means I'm in the middle of one of two fields which men continue to dominate, thus ensuring my continuing and increasing autonomy, and you on the other hand, had better start practicing behind a broom if you want to have any prospects in the other field which men continue to dominate....,
So Craig... Will I be cleaning up THE MESS MADE by all those female managers or the computer engineers? The irony is not lost on those not immersed in radical autonomy.
Devout dyke doesn't believe in "equality." In reality, devout dyke IS anti-Supremacy.
Imagine being a lifelong sailor. The idea of sailing around the world solo means tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars invested, having danced with death on the open seas more than one can remember AND NOW A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL can do it (or almost do it).
And we are to believe SHE DOES THESE "equal" things SOLO like the Great Men of the past.
And if she died... Would anyone treat her like a man?
And Craig... You forgot another area that Men will continue to dominate to the exclusion of females... Straight brawlin'...
End of Men... That's the devout dyke in you speaking...
In the video the lady describe a lot about the work and it's good to know about the lady.
And Craig... You forgot another area that Men will continue to dominate to the exclusion of females... Straight brawlin'...
lol,
case in point on why the janitorial realm will continue to be dominated by gamma males....,
I am not completely convinced that appealing to the "pathologically selfish psychology of women" provides a complete perspective.
I believe, like today, the marketing campaign focused on fear.
Like many mothers from the baby boom generation, my mom taught me to be independent in case a man decided not to provide for me anymore.
What happens when a stay-at-home mother with 3 kids is suddenly single because the bread-winner decided to leave after boinking Sally next door? What strong systems are in place (besides welfare, the sadly busted family court system, and possibly non-existent family) to ensure she doesn't go homeless or otherwise destitute?
My ex husband left me with two boys. I made more money than he did, but I still struggled. He lied in the family court system and I couldn't afford a lawyer to make things right for child support. He left me for an unemployed welfare mom with a brood of kids and loose legs. What would I have done without that good job? I probably would have had to move in with my mother and work my way into a new career.
I wanted to be a stay at home mom. He acted like we shared that as a goal - especially since I was also caring for his two daughters from a previous marriage. It turns out he was attracted to my earning potential and "staying at home" never happened.
His new wife stayed home with no driver's license and no education, That was great until he built a dream home over his head. She had to go to work. No dream for her either...
On a related note, women are often called "gold diggers" for seeking men with abundant resources to care for them. To me, they're seeking the old model of "stay at home" and be taken care of. There aren't enough of those men to go around, so what do women do?
I am on the verge of wandering into a SERIOUS ramble, so I'll sign-off for now. lol
The practical result of mothers telling their daughters to be financially independent from men is clear.
First, IT NEVER REALLY HAPPENS...
And second, MAN sees it archaic to be a sole-provider for his woman BECAUSE that is what the female is attempting to do by being financially independent...
Make the sole-provider MAN obsolete.
" If you had "equality" ... how would you know? What does "equality" look like?
I ask because
"equality" appears function much like the meme called "ending of racism"
- a ubiquitous omnipresent abstraction to be pursued ... but never
attained." ~ Blogger extraordinary Denmark Vesey (the blackest man on the internet).
DV, I had to quote that on my Facebook status. I've never been able to communicate that feeling but you capsulized it beautifully.
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