Wednesday, January 05, 2011

DMG vs DV

* Equal parts of tomatoes, spinach, lima beans, peas, potatoes **Equal parts of beef, pork, chicken, whole milk

DMG said ...
Just shows that you don't know what protein is. But I've long ago come to the conclusion that you are intransigent, stagnant in your thinking. You've decided that you already have all the information you'll ever need, and there is no possibility that you are wrong. DMG

Denmark Vesey said ...
Yeah Doc. Maybe you right. Maybe I am wrong. I do suffer from an over-inflated ego. Perhaps I have been rash.

I am willing to reconsider.

Maybe the fact Obesity, Diabetes & Cancer will kill more Negros than AIDS, Drugs & The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade combined ... has nothing to do with the practice of eating dead, genetically modified animals, conceived in test tubes, injected with artificial growth hormones, dependent on antibiotics, fed a diet they cannot digest, raised in a factory, disassembled on an assembly line, who spend their entire lives caked in feces, who weigh twice what they did 30 years ago, whose flesh is soaked in urine and crawling with e coli bacteria.

Please Doc. If you have any information that can make that kind of protein no different from other sources of protein ... lay it on me. DV

58 comments:

Undercover Black Man said...

... whose flesh is soaked in urine and crawling with e coli bacteria.

Hey DV... what's wrong with E. coli bacteria? Why should I care whether my food has E. coli bacteria in it or not?

Please answer.

Denmark Vesey said...

Hey Undercover,

You should care because it's a good indicator of the acidic condition of the dead pig meat you are about to put in your mouth.

Which in turn, after you partially digest that part of the dead flesh which you can digest, will contribute to the overall acidic condition of your body.

Of course your body, all glory to God, will manage to keep your blood at the required 7.3 slightly base ph balance ... but eventually it will have to leach alkalinizing substances from other areas in your body, usually by sucking calcium out of your bones, to buffer the excessive ingestion of acidic substances. (That's why older people get "osteoporosis". If they ate a more alkalinizing )

Most of you pork chop eaters will hang in there long enough to be prescribed drugs that artificially keep your organs functioning so the Plantation MD's and the Pharmaceutical companies can squeeze a few more dollars out of you by managing your sickness.

Yeah, yeah, they'll promise you the drugs will "kill" the microbe du jour (Plantation Enthusiasts cannot resist anything promised to "kill" for them)... but they will never treat the underlying condition - an internal environment out of balance.

Now ... UB, just as that dark moist hot, acidic environment inside your zippered ankle boots provided a breeding ground for the fungus that gave you yellow toenails and Athletes Foot ...

the dark moist hot acidic environment of your colon and other organs layered with festering urine soaked Frankenstein pig crawling with e coli ... will incubate fungus, disease and cancer inside your organs.

Disease cannot exist in an alkaline environment.

'DD' said...

Craziness.

Animal protein & fat aren't bad for you, and you must be scared, trying to hide behind factory farming, like that frankenfood has anything to do with real meat.

I see you dodging and weaving, throwing up new posts that slightly change the topic--but I'll get you eating a pasture raised chicken yet.

Pop quiz--which does your body store as fat? Fat or Carbohydrates?

Bonus points for describing the insulin reaction for each class of food-protein, fat & carbs.

Plantation Peeps aren't fat from meat man, they're fat from bread & soda. And that's truth.

Eat your vegetables. With a steak. Throw that bread away.

Denmark Vesey said...

Craziness?

Craziness?

How in the hell is that crazy DD?

That is EXACTLY how 99% of the meat consumed in this country is produced.

Whether you are getting it from Walmart or Whole Foods.

Aight Aight ... You get your pork from that farmer in Charlotte's Web ... It's cleaner and healthier than other sources of protein.

Cool. If you say so.

But animals were not designed to be mass produced.

People were not designed to eat mass produced animals.

There is a consequence to eating Factory Meat.

Now I don't know what subject you think I'm "changing" but that's what I've been talking about from jump.

'DD' said...

Ok, you've been talking about factory food.

And all factory food is bad. I'm with you.

So what does that have to do with real food? Why is meat the enemy of health.

It's not. Good chard and good chicken are equally rare. So what?

You're educated and (upper) middle class-it's there for you to eat.

You're designed to eat meat. You aren't designed to eat grain. Yet the cult of vegetarianism is taught to hate eating animals. They're taught to eat grain.

Why? Because there IS NOT ENOUGH REAL FOOD TO GO AROUND. But there's plenty of grain, plenty of GMO garbage meat & vegetables.

Meat should be your main source of energy. No Whole Foods for 300 miles, man, and I make half what I could if I lived in a big city.

The price I pay to eat food instead of garbage.

Don't get twisted into turning the evil eye on meat--you want to fix your community's diet get them to drop the grain.

Everything you are saying about factory meat is true. It's also true that real meat should be your main energy source.

Accept no substitutes.

KonWomyn said...

"You're designed to eat meat. You aren't designed to eat grain. Yet the cult of vegetarianism is taught to hate eating animals. They're taught to eat grain."

In his O-Ness's voice "That's Not True."

What is more cultic between delighting in the taste of blood or the taste of that which grows from the earth?

There are a whole host of religious and dietary reasons vegetarians choose not to delight in the flesh. The principle of being vegetarian is based on vegetables not grains, otherwise they'd be called grain-arians. Having said that, grains are a staple food for some vegetarians, not raw food vegans or fruitarians. They may be in the minority but still are a significant group.

As for some of your claims, if brown rice or wholewheat is an evil grain then why is it called a complex carb? Complex carbs are said to help you burn fat faster - is that a lie?

Anonymous said...

The pic of the two couples speaks volumes in its own. Great job!

Big Man said...

If you think that pic speaks volumes, you got the wrong headphones on.

What exactly does the pic say? That fat people exist? Well, duh.

Besides that, let's look at the pics.

We have two couples, both of them expressing affection. Anything besides that is based on your own assumptions.

I support DV's push to encourage people to think critically about what they eat and where it comes from. But, your body is only a temporary vessel. Spending a bunch of time and energy worrying about a temporary vessel seems counter-productive. I'd spend more time worrying about your eternal soul.

Not saying exercise and eating right isn't important. We all want to live full and happy lies, but some of y'all got a borderline obession.

Anonymous said...

I used to lurk on this blog because it was frequented by great thinkers, who challenged convention.

But I haven't visited this blog in 5 months. Last topic I saw. DV vs. DMG.

Log on today. 1st topic? DV vs. DMG.

It's getting old.

Move on to another topic.

DV - Challenge you to go one month with no mention of this guy.

FYI - I don't know DMG don't give a shit about him. (No disrespect DMG) I'm just a dude who appreciated what this blog was before it became painfully redundant.

Denmark Vesey said...

Thanks ^^ Mike.

See you in 5 months.

KonWomyn said...

Anon 3:26

You don't get it. It's not abt DMG v DV - look at what's beneath the pictures. In any case DV and DMG are symbolic figures - it's all abt how you process what you see.

Have you ever dropped a single iota of knowledge? If not, make up an alias, find a pretty picture and take DV on, proper like some do. Comments from the sidelines don't do nothing for the game.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

"What is more cultic between delighting in the taste of blood or the taste of that which grows from the earth?"

KW, that is a straw man's argument. Animals come from the Earth as do plants.

DV, eating a plant based diet is all well and good for those who can tolerate it. I've eaten all kinds of ways since I was young because my Mother was always trying to better our diet and get away from the nasty processed foods. For a stent we were vegans and for another stent we were on the macrobiotic plan. I am a meat eater and I think your athletic son might be in time.

If a person does explosive activities with their muscles they need animal protein to build their muscles up; this is why vegan sprinters and power athletes are rare.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

I found a list of vegetarian athletes. The most recent one is someone who competed in the Olympics in 1999.

Denmark Vesey said...

KonWomyn said...

Anon 3:26

You don't get it. It's not abt DMG v DV



Thank God for smart sexy sistas who get it.

Lord ha' mercy.

We going to have to do something about the Public School system in this country.

Good lookin' out Kay Dub

KonWomyn said...

Well non-GMO animals do come from the Earth but they don't "grow from the earth". The point is eating vegetables does not represent cultic practices; hence the blood v soil analogy. The argument stands.

Carl Lewis and Martina Narvatilova were fierce vegan athletes.

Denmark Vesey said...

DV, eating a plant based diet is all well and good for those who can tolerate it." Mahndisa

Please don't assume I am advocating anyone else eat a plant based diet.

That's not my intent.

I don't care what people eat.

But I do want black people to know why they are dying.

Diabetes and Hypertension will kill 100 times more Negros than AIDS.

If the Homos can promote the head fake of "Safe Sex" ... why can't I promote the meme of "Safe Meat"?


The fact is the majority of people wouldn't eat this ... "food" ... if they could see how it was produced.

Which is why so much effort is made to shield how it is produced.

I'm not telling people how to eat. I am just showing them what they are eating.

But I've learned something M.

People don't want to know.

It's like ... "Damn DV. Enough with the urine soaked pig Frankensteins ... you're going to make me make a decision.

"I can either continue eating these toxic monsters, or I can stop. Whichever decision I make ... is on me.

"I don't want the decision to be on me DV! I want it to be the decision of some higher ... 'authority'. The "doctors". The "government". "The FDA". The "Technocracy". "Scientists". "Oprah". ."Peer Review"... "A Study".

I think it is criminal to feed hamburger to children without sharing with them the fact that that hamburger patty contains the flesh of over 1,000 different cows.

CNu said...

But, your body is only a temporary vessel. Spending a bunch of time and energy worrying about a temporary vessel seems counter-productive. I'd spend more time worrying about your eternal soul.

lol..,

now it's beginning to swirl around the bowl in earnest, devolving from pure dietary make-believe to just out-and-out make-believe.

Carl Lewis and Martina Narvatilova were fierce vegan athletes.

lol..,

these two gay steroid beasts sure were "fierce".

I'm not telling people how to eat. I am just showing them what they are eating.

laroosh has never told anybody the solution to anything.

ever.

hell, that'd cut into the profitability of both, his cult of controversy and chaos, and, his retail establishments peddling their overpriced warez to the cultic dupes.

KW - brace yourself for years of GMO hydroponics and still more vat grown mycoprotein.

Anonymous said...

"When we say we kill the environment, we mean the animals too?"

KonWomyn said...

LOL! DV, I got you, Magne.

CNu - If you know King Carl's 'boyfriend' or a positive steroid test, by all means, post a credible link.

"KW - brace yourself for years of GMO hydroponics and still more vat grown mycoprotein."

Like I said I aint not eatin' no hydro. I've got 40 acres plus, no mules...Is your belly braced for a future Franken-meat?

Denmark Vesey said...

^^ Sci Fi Negros uncomfortable when presented with anything outside of the Star Trek script.

You can tell because they start doing little bitchy drive bys.

You know ... roll past ... roll the window half way down ... and shout little sarcasms.

LOL

Levar Burton Malthus mad because his misanthropic fantasies and perpetual Doomsday scenarios have the memetic staying power of Kool Moe D's second album.

Whatever you say CNu.

Go drop a stick of butter in some fried pigeon grease and drink it with a straw.

Don't forget to sprinkle on the "spices".

Make it "hot".

DMG said...

Anonymous,

No offense taken. Our host apparently has a crush on me, and cares very much about my opinion, although he'll never admit it.

Why else would he continually try to get me to respond to his lame posts.

DMG said...

MOTI,

Again I see you didn't refute anything I said...just moved onto some other topics as a way to move off onto a tangent. Whatever man.

It's long been established that you cannot go toe to toe with me in a debate of the facts.

That's why you've bored me the last few weeks. You just don't provide a challenge or even stimulating conversation.

You are...well just weak.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Heh KW, like I said, I couldn't find any recent vegetarian athletes and YES Carl Lewis did test positive for banned substances but was allowed to compete because his ingestion of them was inadvertant; he took some over the counter cold medicine and ...

Seriously, KW cultic what? Plants are alive and part of our cycle of life; they feel pain too. Why is it okay to KILL plants but not animals? Killing is cultic but for eating there is no moral basis to oppose it; EATING is violent. Someone has to die whether plant or animal; there is no moral or spiritual high ground when satisfying gustatory sense requirements!

Hot "mugga funggin and salty" wax said...

Before we all take a left turn too hard around the next corner, I think that wether you are a vegan or not is not the major problem (I eat meat) or the issue that needs the attention. If I put crack on DV's Breakfast below or on CNU chicken special it will still puck everyone up, hence therein lies the problem. With having One satan(Monsanto) who is the leader of the entire, pharmaceutical industry and poison industry(Weed killer) along with ADM now controlling the majority of the world food supply is what we should be screaming at. Pretty soon we will have no choice (Naw DMG, these corporations aren't diabolical :)). BUT YOU DON'T HEAR ME THOUGH. YOU HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE RUNNING THE INTAKE PART of your Life, TO THE POISONING PART , TO THE TREATMENT PART of your Life. Please start seeing it from a corporate perspective!!! Have you ever worked for these Bastards?? Have you every heard of the two deadly Neurotoxins, Aspartame or MSG( Did you know that your congress has passed a law to hide the name , so now it is back into almost all foods?). Have you ever mixed them with a little fluoride, HFCS and a little acidic pig mentioned above( yum , yum its the uric acid is what gives them the taste(heard of kosher?)) along with your daily dose of statins, and other medications? MAJOR TOXEMIA!!! DMG , will hit back and say "wax, moderation mugga fugga", but what we all fail to understand is that it is call "soft kill". EVERYTHING YOU INTAKE in this environment GIVES YOU your "moderation and a little bit more". If we are not growing our foods in our backyard(congress is now passing a law to make that illegal) ourselves, it getting almost impossible to get any food without the "crack" on it(stay True Trader Joe and Whole foods-new organic laws by Obama proposes to ban labeling). Take Pizza Hut for example, It does not matter if you order the vegan or the sausage works , they are spraying them both with silicon in order to save 2 cents per slice because of the cost of Cheese flavoring. Yes , that what corporation do. The end game in this team is simple; he who has the highest level of toxemia(crack, poisons, artificial stuff in his systems) after the high levels of daily ingestion, gets sick or kick the bucket first. DV, you said it earlier that the Gov. has been co-opted by an elite few. Well hell these corporation who produces the majority of our food has been co-opted by these same folks. JUST RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF THESE MADAME BLAVATSKEY -DARWIN MOTHER PHUCKAS. DMG, the people who work for these institution are not inherently evil, but they still spray silica on pizza that your children eat and give melanin to your pets and babies IN ORDER TO REDUCE COST. "Soft kill(slow poisoning)l" is still Genocide. I think what we are all looking for is: "can we just have food that has not been pucked with?"

KonWomyn said...

Mahndisa,
Yea I know abt that incident, but that's not testing positive for steroids. Unless anybody got proof King Carl wasn't no drugs cheat.

Recent well; there's a kickboxing champ who eats raw food and there are these vegan and vegetarian athletes.

If picking an apple from a tree is a form of killing then what say ye to conscious fruitarians who only eat what's fallen from the tree?

Can you post a link of a study that shows that plants definitely feel pain? As far as I know plants lack the nervous system and brain necessary for them to feel pain.

If we're going to play the morality game then someone might ask you why do you drink milk, but oppose abortion?

Do you eat veal? That's a baby.
And that organic beef you eat, that's a mother - DEAD ; )

Denmark Vesey said...

See Wax.

You a better man than me.

You still talkin' to these cats as if you can have a reasonable conversation about the 'reality of what they are eating and why it is being fed to them'.

You can no more turn a Plantation Negro into a Free Black Man than you can turn a Ho into a Housewife.

You say "Slow-Kill Weapon" and peasants cannot hear it because that statement begs the question ... "who would do such a thing?"

The Plantation Negro's Pavlovian reaction is ... "Noooooo! Massa woodn't do dat!! Heez been goood tuh us!! Why would he commit slow GenUhSide 'gainst us now?!"

You point out to them the genocidal (yet preventable) death rates from disease and Immuno Sabotage and the Plantation Negros paint you as some type of ... villain.

"Who you dink you izzz DenMawk Veseh!! Talkin' 'bout dis kinda stufff!! Aint no Bwak Magne 'pose to be worried 'bout dis!! Who you dink you izzzz?!? Nigguh?!"

"PwoTeen is PwoTeen!"

So Brother Wax, your compassion and patience is admirable ... but pure folly.

Not only do slaves not want to be free ... they resent you for daring to be free.

So ... I aint trying to save nobody. Negroes can drink factory animal fat and toxins by the quart if they want.

I'm just enjoying taunting them while they do it.

However I do feel sorry for the children, born into dietary ignorance, obese before puberty, and never given a chance.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

If women who had unviable fetuses ate them, KW I wouldn't talk mess about them at all; it would be consistent. The women would be taking full responsibility for e everything!

The problem with elective abortion is that the fetuses are murdered and they are simply discarded like trash- whether they are viable or not. If a moral basis for humanity centers around humanity propagating itself, abortion is the worst crime.

As to plants, organisms don't need to the same structures as humans to communicate and be sentient. The whole discussion about bacteria should have showed you that.

I cannot point to a study that justifies my opinions on this matter, except my personal experience.

Regarding vegan athletes, notice above I said I am not sure of vegan athletes. It is well established that a vegetarian can do sports because they can still consume dairy and other products that a vegan would not be able to consume. Martina Navitalova eats meat now, according to the very site you to which you linked. And Carl Lewis ate vegan for 1991 season and claims he did so well. However,he PEAKED in 1991 so what might that tell us?

And let's be honest. An athlete could get his entire set of nutritional requirements eating an omnivorous diet and supplementation might not be necessary. I daresay that a vegan strength and power athlete REQUIRES supplementation because he could not get everything he needs in his diet otherwise.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

And drink milk but oppose abortion is a non issue. Milk comes from LIVING animals; I don't have to kill a cow to drink certified organic and or raw milk at all. And I don't have to kill a chicken to eat good eggs either. But so what if I did. You cannot get away from the fact that someone has to die whenever you eat.

The only people I've known about who truly didn't kill to eat were a cult in Kansas where all they eat is chaff that they shake from wheat. While I admire their consistency, I think that living that way would not provide the human race with the required nutrients AND not only that, it would make life BORING!!!

Other than those people, I cannot think of anybody who has a right to be moralistic about food.

KonWomyn said...

Mahndisa,

Are plants sentient bec you think so or bec there is evidence which refutes that they have a very low SQ? (Sentience Quotient)

That discussion last week had nothing to do with sentient beings; bacteria can manipulate a body or plant for their own needs does not register as evidence of 'feeling' IMO, unless you can show studies that measure the SQ of bacteria. In any case we are talking about plants here.

So lemme get this straight; if a foetus is viable it's wrong for a woman to kill it, but if a chicken egg is viable it's ok for someone to take it from the hen...Uh-huh, ok.

Now if a woman eats her 'unviable' foetus it's ok, so that means you support cannibalism? Ummm...ok. *Gulp*

And it's ok to take milk from a cow because it's a living cow but it doesn't really matter if it's food for the calf...So I guess if some sicko drank his wife's milk, instead of the baby (like on Precious (sans the abuse) if y'watched it) then that would be ok too?...Girrrl???

You might not be able to 'get away' from the fact of someone or something dying when you eat, like a conscious fruitarian might be able to, but it doesn't justify the mass slaughterings of animals around the globe, everyday.

KonWomyn said...

Actually scratch what I said about bacteria I jst thought abt it again in terms of human beings.

CNu said...

Levar Burton Malthus mad because his misanthropic fantasies and perpetual Doomsday scenarios have the memetic staying power of Kool Moe D's second album.

DeeVee confuses ephemeral adolescent female popularity amongst spoonfed chickenheads, with memetic staying power.

nucca.puh.leeze.....,

I see your memetic staying power DeeVee LaRoosh - and raise you Virgin Group CEO Richard Branson stating in no uncertain terms that KW and others among the U.K.'s huddled masses are unceremoniously phucked within 5 years.

The massive engineering and capital invested in Thanet Earth wasn't done just for silly show, unlike the overwhelming majority of the flailings that go on hereabouts. But then of course, that massive undertaking producing 15% of UK vegetable foodstuffs doesn't have the "memetic staying power" of DeeVee's alkaline hot air either.....,

Denmark Vesey said...

I don't what all that means CNu ...

All I know is I aint got titties.

Everything else is talk.

Denmark Vesey said...

Oh.

Ok.

Right.

"Peak Oil".

Back to that one.

Oil is "running out".

Richard Branson said so.

ooooohhhhhhh. Scared.

Last week it was Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Turns out to be an admitted fraud.

BeFo dat it was "H1N1 Pandemic".

Silly little Plantation Negro fraud. (Gotta admit your boy called that one too. What up Doc?)

Da Population "Bomb" was supposed to destroy the planet in the 1970's.

Nuclear Holocaust.

Always summin with you little FreeMasonic wannabes.

You need to worry about Peak Pork LeVar. That cloned meat you putting in your mouth will kill you before oil runs out.

CNu said...

You don't have the sense God gave a gnat either, but that hasn't stopped you from holding forth in public as if you had something worthwhile to teach.

If you actually wanted to help people, you'd simply refer them to the source of all this business and let them see for themselves whether or not it works.

It's nothing more than Bernard Jensen's old line of speculative chiropractic.

But if you're gonna do a little Jensen, why not go the whole hog and do all of Jensen.

Anything less in the era of panoptic information availability is just chaos and controversy for the sake of chaos and controversy.

The hallmarks of non-solution oriented LaRooshian conspiracy mongering and inane cultic conversation...,

Denmark Vesey said...

"If you actually wanted to help people," CNu

I don't.

I just want to laugh at Negros with Titties.

CNu said...

Back in the tittie where I grew up (Wichititty Kansas) - All the Birchers and other wrinkled-up, evil old raisins believed in all this blather and whooey. Matter fact, they built themselves a little temple to the study and practice of all this inane Jensensism and sure enough, for half a hot minute they had a following.

Sadly, all the evil old raisins eventually succumbed to cancer and died, so all that overwrought memetic investment came to naught.

Now comes DeeVee 35 years after the fact, peddling this same old silly shit that failed these ass-clowns and their minions back in the day, and will fail anyone gullible enough nowadays to fork over a plugged nickel to these quacks for the detriment of their backward-assed quackery.

The only part of it all that I find intrigueing is that it's the same old crypto-fascist, wannabe elitist folk peddling this jive, year, after year, after year - always on the prowl for a fresh batch of suckers without the training or the good sense that God gave them to see through to the tootsie roll center of this nonsense.

CNu said...

I just want to laugh at Negros with Titties.

consistent with the adolescent bitch sensibilities typifying 99% of your pronouncements....,

hot "mugga funggin and slave trader" wax said...

DV,
My whole life has been this fight between the two dualites (Rand vs Kant) in the area of compassion. I came out of that Hard Core "mean bitch" school of Ayn Rand. I would wash her panties when I was younger (Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.
//Evil requires the sanction of the victim. //The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it. //There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.//Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. )

I was the biggest "puck the sheepeople", save myself guy out there. But somewhere out there I found Immauel Kant( Always recognize that human individuals are ends, and do not use them as means to your end.// Ingratitude is the essence of vileness//Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play. //I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief. //Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play. //I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief. //Even philosophers will praise war as ennobling mankind, forgetting the Greek who said: 'War is bad in that it begets more evil than it kills.' ) and it got to me and got little bit carried away with my " brothers keepers" bullshit :).

But Jesus, helping the plantation slave really hurts DV(morpheus :)). I have been doing it for a long time and didn't just show up at this party. You, lose family, friends etc., etc., and you are right...they will hate you more than their oppressors. I got the books (Ecoscience) written by John P Holdren (obama's top SCIENCE CZAR- who said Govt. should put sterilants in the water along with other slave killing methodology in order to reduce the population!!!! ) and watch in amazement how our folk worship him right now. I got everything, stacks, research...Agenda 21, codex alimentarius, Georgia Guide-stones, etc, rtc.,.reams of large scale plans.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5800206429960925518#

Dammit people, Kissinger said that we will use food as a weapon! But the slaves will kill you for one reason and one only, the truth threaten their egos( the only thing that they have left). DV, the truth have 3 stages. 1st it is ridiculed. 2. It is violently opposed, and 3- Finally, it is accepted as self evident (welcome h1n1, welcome climate change). As we move into the future of our 1 world Govt. We will speed up the welcome ceremonies faster.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8332

hot "mugga funggin and slave trader" wax said...

cont
But as I have said before, the reason everyone is fighting you DV is because they don't have the formula to the PTB's "con" and and how they pull it off.

Look at this vid for the last time and try to understand the "con" of the elites and its efficacy . It is based upon 2 principles "No one would believe that someone would try something THIS BIG( talk to Doc) or THIS OLD for so many people to have fallen for it (Softkill?), eventually when the sheepeople are challenge or question about it, it then means their investment and thus their intelligence (ego passes the line of no return) is then also in question and no one but none can accept that not even to themselves" Checkmate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM4jrODRjJ4

It works! Then the next is the Hegelian Dialectic- thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis. The Don King Special. Ali (Democrats), Frazier(Republicans), the PTB (Don King) DK says "Puck kem both, and you too-because while you busy cheering-I got their money, your money, and will dictate all the shot calling!:)"

Between those methods its gonna be hard, but your blog is giving everyone a chance to work it , therefore I think you gotta bigger heart than I do and care a lot more than you say:). Keep up the good work Brother. No one said "freeing slaves is easy."

Namaste

hot wax said...

CNU,


DV is right on this one!


Nuclear Holocaust was and is all bullshit.

Remember they sell fear- so we could run up to them to be our saviors.

"Problem, Reaction, Solution"- that why they were trying to take pictures of my wife's fine ass body in the airport today :) why does she need her titties scan.

Back to the
Nuclear Holocaust.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmZqK9SJA_o

can't happen -one of their best "con" jobs ever. stop laughing :). watch this video on how the sun works- the theory of induction. If you agree with the theory of induction then you know it will be almost impossible to detonate a bomb.


The harmonics of the sun and the earth is the trigger. It has to be special day time etc., etc. only could be done twice a year according to this new theory.

Really check out 2010 Hiroshima before you reply.

Look at all the old bomb videos - why aren't the clouds moving the puck out the way. superimposed maybe. At least in the moon landing BS they tried.

Don't hurt me CNU :). I got children.

Now deplete Uranium to kill all soldiers- theirs and ours yeah, that real. I love a good alchemist.

dude below hate jews cnu, but answer his questions :).

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=65869

Denmark Vesey said...

Obviously all that greasy cloned meat is hindering your grasp on reality CNu.

elitism?

OK.

You got me.

I'll admit it.

I'M TOO GOOD TO EAT GREASY CLONED FACTORY MEAT.

Chalk it up to any white boys you need to chalk it up to Festas ... LaRoosh, Jansen, whomever. Whatever.

It really aint that deep.

If I'm wrong for deriding food that causes men to grow TITS ... I don't want to be right.

Denmark Vesey said...

That's good stuff Wax.

Well done.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I don't care about our people. Obviously I do.

It's that I've learned all that nice, patient, understanding shit is ineffective.

Arguing with Negros who have Titties is futile. What makes the most sense is self-evident.

Whether muhfuggas like it here or not ... Everyone of them will think twice before they submit to mass vaccinations by a For-Profit medical system run by Moron MD's. They will think twice before ordering a bucket of cloned chicken parts and a 32oz Sprite.

Mission Accomplished.

I watched the scene in Revolver again. Interesting. What's your take on it?

Watching The Sun now. Wow. Thank you.

hot "nocturnal " wax said...

@ DV
I watched the scene in Revolver again. Interesting. What's your take on it?

Guy Ritche made the flick. He called it the formula of the illuminati. It is how to get the masses to go along with being "con." the really big ones- 911 etc. and the really old ones being played again. The movie is the bomb! It is how to manipulate your victims via his ego -to make them go all in. That if they back up, they would have to say I was wrong or not that smart, and therefore the ego will rather die that succumb to that.... sound familiar :)?

especially if they can manipulate your eyes along with fucking with your fear. Classic ego vs. self battle.

If you play chess you will love it just as much as Fresh.

At the end the "what the Bleep. down the rabbit hole geniuses came on" for commentary.

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Anonymous said...

But, your body is only a temporary vessel. Spending a bunch of time and energy worrying about a temporary vessel seems counter-productive. I'd spend more time worrying about your eternal soul. -Big Man

But Big Man,

Dietary prohibitions have always been an integral aspect of spirituality. The Roman cultural rendition of Christianity has reinterpreted ancient exegeses.

However Semitic traditions support the convergence of the physical world with the transcendental in the journey towards spiritual excellence.

The act of fasting is not done so metaphorically. The stipulation for this spiritual "cleansing" is obtained ONLY through a strenuous physical dietary deprivation. So if the dietary act of fasting, with these "temporary vessels" are regarded for its spiritual significance, why then is the acquisition of pure foods discarded as meaningless acts without any spiritual merit or benefit?

Big Man said...

Gee Chee

Didn't say it had no benefit. I think many of the comments made by DV and Hot Wax are worthwhile. I learn something new all the time here, then I go check it out and make my own decision.

I said there seems to be a crazy focus on perfecting the operation of a body that's designed to stop working in roughly 80 years. I'm concerned about the operation of my body, which is why I started paying more attention to what I eat, and getting exercise, but I don't have the level of concern or fervor as many of the cats here. And the reason why is the reason I gave.

Now, cats are going to do what they want, but that was my opinion on the whole push.

As for the Bible and nutrition, Peter got the message about which foods were acceptable and which ones weren't. And let's not even discuss Jesus' comment to the Pharisees that they were spending far too much time worrying about what went into their mouths instead of what came out. Fasting has a place in Chrsitianity, but we're not talking about fasting, we're talking about something else. There is a lot of speculation about why God established certain dietary requirements for Jews, but two of the key theories are that it provided health safeguards for a people with about refrigeration, and that it set them apart from the pagan nations around them. As times have changed, so have the needs of believers.

So that's why I wrote what I wrote.

DMG said...

"MAJOR TOXEMIA!!! DMG , will hit back and say "wax, moderation mugga fugga", but what we all fail to understand is that it is call "soft kill"

If you want to get all up in arms over Aspartame, mono-sodium glutamate, and fluoride, I'm just going to roll my eyes. If it freaks you out, don't eat it. I only take exception when people make proclamations that have no basis in fact.

And all this stuff about "soft-kill" and "evil" corporations is just stupid. Of course there are CEO's who aren't ethical, but all aren't.

Again, think what you want. But you will get called out to prove your statements. All I'm asking you all is to verify that your statements make sense before spewing on my computer screen.

That's not too hard...is it?

hot "mugga funggin and slave trader" wax said...

@Big man!!

"I would imagine that 99 percent of the people who visit this blog are now well aware of the dangers in the food supply system and the possible effects on their bodies. So, what's a workable solution, or what's the only solution?"

As we speak and sometime we ourselves get caught up in the Hegelian Dialectic, arguing about thesis- anti-thesis paradigms and don't understand the nature of the "con"(synthesis) remember this: that is a part of the strategy. This is chess. If you are at the point of trying to figure out if this is real and what to do; You are already pucked. They are already 5 moves ahead.

Case in point- while we praise our number one House-nig and the beautiful size of his wife's arms, check what they been up to make sure you have male titties:

HR 875 - The Federal Take-Over of Food Regulation-On February 4, 2009 Representative Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) introduced the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 (HR 875), a bill that would establish the Food Safety Administration (FSA) within the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS). HR 875 represents a tremendous expansion of federal power, particularly the power to regulate intrastate commerce. While the proposed legislation tries to address the many problems of the industrial food system, the impact on small farms if the bill becomes law would be substantial and not for the better. HR 875 is a major threat to sustainable farming and the local food movement. [Click here for the text: PDF or MS Word or HTML]

HR 2749 is a strange bill in many ways. While the other “food safety” bills have been around since winter, allowing for much public discussion on the internet, HR 2749 has only suddenly appeared. It is a mutant conglomeration of the worst of the other bills, with the addition of one very original part – martial law. When it was a draft, it was Waxman’s bill. But once given a number, it became Dingel’s who already had a “food safety” bill, HR 759. So Waxman got none and Dingel got two. (Was this because Waxman, being Jewish, was a hideous choice to introduce a bill with Codex in it – designed by the Nazi pharmaceutical companies that funded Hitler, provided the gas for the gas chambers, experimented on prisoners with vaccines – and is expected to kill millions?)

This new Bill HR 2749 is a deceptive control tactic that will strip us of our food freedoms. It has the same overtones of the Patriot Act, instilling every possible preventative measure in the name of our "safety." The bill states that the FDA would be given the power to quarantine any geographical area at any time by "prohibiting or restricting the movement of food or of any vehicle being used or that has been used to transport or hold such food within the geographic area." The vague wording of this bill essentially leaves the opportunity to shut down ALL transportation in a specific area. For example, a car on its way home from the grocery store is being used to "transport or hold" food.

hot "mugga funggin and slave trader" wax said...

cont.

Everyone on says poo-poo Wax. you are FOS. DMG, I go back to one statement. Self evident. That simple-Codex 51 Canada? Self Evident.

But as I digress, HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c1112RD9bb:e11439:

Senate Bill 787 is known as the Clean Water Restoration Act. OpenCongress.org says it seeks to amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to clarify the jurisdiction of the United States over the waters of the United States - which is a change from jurisdiction over only the "navigable waters" of the United States. Hey all water is under control of the Fed Gov. determining what goes into it!

Last year, Michael Taylor became the senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. He is now Obama's food safety czar. What have we done?The Milk Man Cometh-(While Taylor was at the FDA in the early 90's, he also oversaw the policy regarding Monsanto'sgenetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH/rbST) -- injected into cows to increase milk supply.)Monsato lobbyist. WTF??

Don't forget?
Engrossed HR 1105 will eliminate small farms and ranches across the country in a massive property grab. The only access you will have for fresh, nutritious and healthy local foods will be NAIS compliant farms and ranches who have agreed to register their private property, electronically identify their animals with the scientifically linked cancer RFID chip (tag) and agree to 24/7 surveillance and monitoring. Languages from state to federal basically say you can’t buy or sell without being NAIS compliant which includes a mark. Or you can choose the tainted foods currently being imported while we export our quality foods to other countries.

I think in Canada Codex 51 has passed.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/185341883/724503

One more another video about Codex:

http://all.gloria.tv/?media=33061

Closing down small farms?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZL6q-3LOw

You see Big Mike, while we sit here in this and quibble about this and tiny matters, these bastards have a mission to get this done AND WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF OPTIONS. As Doc screams "liar ", dummy, alarmist and I yell back, the plan is still moving full speed ahead.

Depressing, yes for us , however easy for them to do because the people care more about Colt's ,saints, Jay-z , and Lady gaga. It is so easy to stop, if we could get their playbook. It is hidden in plain sight....

Do you want it?

The Answer: Understand who you are and that you were born into the plantation slavery and it is so easy to get out. Freedom, y'all want freedom? Ok here it is.

CDM baby.
Read the primer:

www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/mary_croft.pdf

Part 1: Read this PDF front to back. If you get it you will ask me for part 2. By the way , the good nurse is right ( with a little add on. ) Freedom is all internal, and devoid of the past(guilt) and never forwardlooking future(fear). Stay present.


Namaste.

Hot "mugga funggin and salty" wax said...

@DMG baby!

No Bra, this one is on YOU! I am still waiting for the report of why I must ingest fluoride water into my tummy in order to protect my teeth.

You still owe me scientific data on that one.
:)

I am sending data bro. Not saying this is dumb and that person is whack, etc., etc.

So it is your turn. Fluoride first.

Respect-

ps- Please God don't let the good Dr. be cointel-pro. Amen. :)

DMG said...

Sure. Try the Cochrane Database. It's not hard to find if you are looking. But I suppose you weren't.

You aren't sending data...you are copying and pasting. Not to be rude, but I don't think you really have a firm grasp of the basics, because some of the conclusions you've come up with aren't correct. And yeah...Mercola JUST IS WHACK. It's the same guru's with all of you guys.

Seriously...counter intel? Please.

Now don't change the subject, give me a mechanism and some data to back up your statements about aspartame or MSG and their relation to a "soft-kill" program.

hot "not co-intelpro" wax said...

House,

I am going copy and paste some more as long as people try to pull bullshit like this. You see, I go to the actual articles and and take time out to read the shit and give it back to you because I know how LAZY you people are.

Case in point, I asked you why do i have to ingest fluoride (meaning drink). you give me a bullshit link that you did not read yourself or you would not let the following slip.

Cutting and pasting from your "Cochrane Database" Grasp this:

"However, trials to discern potential adverse effects are required, and data on acceptability. Better quality research is needed to reach clearer conclusions on the effects of slow release fluoride devices, milk fluoridation, sealants in comparison with fluoride varnishes, and of different modes of delivering fluoride to orthodontic patients"

what it say is topical OK, Better quality research is needed for the other crap.

Maybe you should start reading your research better.

DMG - I been in the shit a long time. Stringing together a couple of fancy scientific words don't do anything for me. As I stated before, your medical field teaches nothing about nutrition. I have had Fat ass MD's drop their egos and come to me for help.Hey Bra, how can I get rip like you, can you write me a meal plan?? NO SHIT.

BTW, How come anybody with a degree that might have a different viewpoint from you is a shitty moe foe? Bra, that is getting old.

DMG said...

Wax,

I'll lead you to water, but don't expect me to dip the cup in the lake and bring it to you on a tray. If you ACTUALLY followed the link to the Cochrane Database, you would have found that it's a repository for MULTIPLE ARTICLES on the subject. So Lazy?

Maybe you can bullshit the lay people with a few big words here and there but you aren't fooling me. You are just another guy who doesn't really know what he's talking about. You have alot of data, but don't know how to analyze it because you don't have a foundation. Not trying to offend you, just pointing out the major flaw in your arguments.

DMG said...

MD's come to you for help in what exactly? If they came to you for help in biology, I highly doubt they were physicians of any high caliber. Has nothing to do with ego. If you don't know shit about cars, you going to go argue with your mechanic on how to fix your BMW?

The fact is this: I know more about the human body than you do. I know more about biology than you do. I know more about medicine than you do. This isn't boasting it's a statement of fact...because it's MY JOB, I SHOULD know more about all of these things than the average person. I offer my assistance to you so you don't go around sounding like a complete jackass when you try to speak about acidic/alkaline this and that.

But hey, keep on doing what you want. I don't really care if people are laughing at you. I tried.

DMG said...

By the way...it seems that I know more about nutrition than you do too, from the completely backward statements you've made.

Whatever. Try to alkalinize your body. Fortunately your body is smarter than you are and will likely resist all attempts at you trying to do it harm.

hot "not co-intelpro" wax said...

OK DMG,

Help me. Paste me another link that refutes what Dr. Young is saying. Point by point. Just tell me which statements are wrong.


Robert Young's

21 biggest medical lies.

Respect-
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/08/top-21-biggest-health-nutritional-and.html

DMG said...

Man you really are trying hard to deflect attention away from the fact that you are avoiding a direct question.

That bead of sweat on your brow is telling.

Answer the question. You said you would hours ago.