"The persistent meme which assumes black youth are more violent than other groups is so thoroughly implanted in the heads of Plantation Negros and Plantation Crackas by the Plantation operators that they cannot even fathom anything different." Denmark VeseyCase In Point:
Undercover Black Man...
You haven't given me the time of day either David,Oh contraire, Pierre. I went through the trouble of tracking down Dr. Joseph Terwillliger, after you cited him as a source debunking the premises of the 1000 Genomes Project.
In our subsequent email correspondence, I learned something about the complicated nature of genomic research.
I also learned that Dr. Terwilliger does NOT suppose that "intelligence" -- however that trait is defined -- is equally distributed across all human populations.
Joe T says this:
"Intelligence is obviously heritable. If it were not, how can humans have more of it than mice or chimpanzees since the differences are all genetic. That is not really debatable.
"People can debate how one should measure it, or what it is, but clearly it is something, and that something is heritable as are all brain structures and everything else. And we all know people who are smart and people who are stupid... so clearly there is variation in it. ...
"Having said all that, the idea that the AVERAGE of any trait should be the same across populations seems highly unlikely a priori.... We know a large range can exist, as both George Bush and Stephen Hawking are human, and we all know a lot of people that are a lot stupider than Bush survive and reproduce without problems :)
"The problem with discussions of racial differences have more to do with the lack of statistical understanding of average people - they waste time teaching trigonometry in high school instead of probability and statistics and yet we get bombarded by polls and standard errors and means anf variances every day in the news...
"The bottom line is that means always differ between any two populations for every trait, but the variances are huge relative to the means, meaning that an average individual from a 'taller' populations may only have a 55% chance of being taller than a random individual from a 'shorter' population, which is not useful information for making any conclusions about individual differences.
"So the bottom line is that group differences always exist, but these differences cannot be used to predict much about an individual based solely on his group membership... But until people understand these basic concepts, science can easily be misused by those with a political agenda..."
Interesting. But I, for one, am not interested in trying to predict anything about "an individual" based on his group membership.
If, however, "group differences always exist," then why should anyone expect that blacks, whites and Asians would -- collectively, on average -- perform identically the same on IQ tests or SATs or by any other cognitive measure?
Yet the liberal egalitarianist looks at group differences in test scores as evidence that the test is biased... or that there's something wrong with the schools... or that the whole society is somehow racist.
I simply dare to ask whether those group differences in cognitive test scores might reflect a state of nature.
DNA sequencing might answer this question. Or it might not.
Either way, there's no scientific basis to back up the liberal egalitarianist position that no group differences exist.
CNulan said...
You didn't do a damned thing for me. Instead, you've disclosed yet another desperate and failed bid to buy additional time for yourself.
See, I've confronted your belief and value system head-on in a way that you're incapable of either dismissing or ignoring.
Faced with the necessity of relinquishing core beliefs, or watching them collapse, and in the process taking a big chunk of your formatory identity with them - you've been locked into a struggle for your very existence.
The minute your "struggle" with me fails, a very real kind of death will ensue for what little remains of you.