Saturday, November 26, 2011

What's In A Name? • Why Did The Plantation Teach Plantation Negros To Call Themselves "African-Americans"?

"The true naming of a thing is its power"


If you can name something for what it is, even if its name is lost to the mists of time, you capture some of its power.
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Agüeybaná said...
"I don't doubt they brought Africans for slavery as well, but I highly doubt black people weren't already here.  

Call us all "African-American" and it helps solidify our self-image as oppressed, helpless outsiders."

14 comments:

that dude said...

None of my friends like AA as a phrase. We all prefer black and use it.

Big Mark 243 said...

That is the propaganda model... whether it is AA or black, the confusion indicates how effectively naming rights takes away identity as well as intent...

...jus' sayin'...

Agüeybaná said...

Big ups, DV.

I was just watching a documentary on the Trail of Tears. It documents Jackson's Indian Removal Act circa 1840--and of course it depicts the Native Americans as darker, but definitely not black. So they kick all the "Native Americans" out of the South-East 25yrs before the government officially acknowledged that slavery was no longer lucrative.

I see it: "We can't make money off these niggas anymore? Get them the hell out of here and we'll see what we can do with all this money amongst us... maybe build some factories and shit."

I don't doubt they brought Africans for slavery as well, but I highly doubt black people weren't already here. Call us all "African-American" and it helps solidify our self-image as oppressed, helpless outsiders.

Seeing oneself as a slave that was brought to a foreign land creates a drastically different perspective than seeing oneself as The original. Imagine a nation full of us that KNEW this was our crib from the beginning...

Instead of constantly carrying out the victim and oppressor role play, it would be a privilege to breathe the air we farted in... "Black excellence" at its finest.

makheru bradley said...

When did the plantation teach people whom they defined as negroes, niggers, and colored that they were Afrikan Americans? Please provide the documentation to defend your thesis.

Why would the plantation attach a group of people whom they had defined as non-historical beings to something historical?

Denmark Vesey said...

Dude!

You aint lyin'.

I don't know black people who ever use the term "African-American" ... except in front of white folks.

Denmark Vesey said...

"whether it is AA or black, the confusion indicates how effectively naming rights takes away identity as well as intent..." Big Mark

That's it.

"Naming Rights"

Who holds them?

Who gets to name a sports team?

The owner.

Whomever holds title ... chooses the name.

Those that hold title to Plantation Negros ... have chosen ... to call them "African-Americans".

Plantation Negros reveling in their plantationtude have vigorously adapted that externally manufactured identity with self-righteous zeal.

I associate it back to the TV series "Roots".

"Black History Month" ... is nothing more than an annual renewal of the Plantation Negro Identity Meme which has limited the black American experience to nothing more than that tired ass narrative that starts with being snatched from the jungles of Africa, shipped like cargo and delivered on American soil by evil "white people". 400 years of slavery. Invention of the peanut. Jackie Robinson. MLK. Malcolm. Jesse and now Barrack.

Identifying ourselves as "African-American" locks us into a self-denying historical narrative.

It's a trick.

A head fake.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Seeing oneself as a slave that was brought to a foreign land creates a drastically different perspective than seeing oneself as The original. Imagine a nation full of us that KNEW this was our crib from the beginning..." Agüeybaná

Ahhhhh....

My Man!

OK.

OK.

Now you talkin'.

Denmark Vesey said...

1) "When did the plantation teach people whom they defined as negroes, niggers, and colored that they were Afrikan Americans? " Mak B

About 6 months before Negros started calling themselves 'Afrikan American'.

2) "Why would the plantation attach a group of people whom they had defined as non-historical beings to something historical?" Mak B

They didn't.

Calling Plantation Negros "African-American" does not attach them to anything "historical".

It attaches them to the name of a piece of land thousands of miles away.

It detaches them from the land beneath their feet.

Hustle Hard.

makheru bradley said...

About 6 months before Negros started calling themselves 'Afrikan American'.-- Dv

As expected, flying by the seat of your pants w/o documentation

It detaches them from the land beneath their feet. -- Dv

So the "America" in Afrikan American is not beneath their feet.-- LOL

Those that hold title to Plantation Negros ... have chosen ... to call them "African-Americans". -- DV

As Dr. Asa Hilliard said: "Mental slavery is invisible violence." You've been terribly violated by the White Supremacy Dynamic.

Identifying ourselves as "African-American" locks us into a self-denying historical narrative.-- DV

Denying what? If you claim that your people are indigenous to this land you are ultimately in the same position-- a victim of European crimes against humanity--the theft of your continent and the genocide of your people. What are you doing about that?

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Denmark Vesey said...

"Denying what? If you claim that your people are indigenous to this land you are ultimately in the same position-- a victim of European crimes against humanity" Makheru Bradley

That's stupid.

I'll tell you why.

1) "Denying what?"

Denying the historical reality of the true black diaspora.

Black people were all over the planet, long before white people put them in boats and shipped them like cargo.

Your knee-jerk attachment to anything labeled "African" denies the claims of black people to the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET.


2) Victims of "European
crimes against humanity".

Stupid again.

I'll tell you why.

Europe is the name of a land mass.

How in the fuck can "Europe" commit crimes against humanity?

"Europe" can no more commit a crime than can Jamaica.

People commit crimes.

Not continents.

Labeling the crimes committed against the indigenous people of this continent "European" obscures the actual culprits.

Just as labeling the crimes committed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Iran and Syria "American" ... obscures the actual culprits.

Mak.

I'm going to tell you ... and all them little punk ass, scared, faggoty "anonymous" Negros ... one more time.

Black people hold dominion over the entire earth.

Not just "Africa".

That historical narrative shoved down your throats in Plantation Schools needs to be exorcised.

You have no idea of the true history of this planet.

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makheru bradley said...

Black people were all over the planet, long before white people put them in boats and shipped them like cargo. – DV

That is not the issue. For years Afrikan-centered scholars have been at the forefront of documenting this fact. Well before a group of half-baked hustlers came along and mis-educated DV about Pangaea.
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Labeling the crimes committed against the indigenous people of this continent "European" obscures the actual culprits.—DV

Well who are the “actual culprits?” Inasmuch as you identify the indigenous peoples of this continent as Moors, individuals such as Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Sherman, and Custer e.g. surely have a group identity and a place of origin. That is, unless you believe that their ancestors were here since the breakup of Pangaea, just like your ancestors.

The historical narrative you are proposing says that Black people were already on this continent when white people invaded. These Black people had their land stolen; were enslaved by the invaders and other people who were already here (such as the Cherokees); became victims of genocide and were submerged into the four million Afrikans who were part of the largest forced migration in history, with no surviving elements of thousands of years of indigenous culture (language, customs, folklore, etc). Exactly what does your narrative lead to? Demanding that the thieves return your land?

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