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Methinks that by and large women choosing a mate is a fairly recent phenomena in the history of man as is marrying for love.
In tandem with other sophisticatedly orchestrated moves we've seem the family, as an institution, deteriorate. It's gradual deterioration directly tied to so-called socially liberating schematics. Disguised as freedoms this mess has had a deleterious effect. The problem is that "ignorance and freedom are incompatible".
The male's role and design is to be the head, the leader. Just as the anatomical head governs the self. Decisions are his to be made. Rebellion against this arrangement is nothing new hence the stories of men dragging females with one hand a club in the other or the infamous dog chase the cat scenario. My grandmother would say men are pursuers and women pursuees.
The females role in all of this is elevation. If tricks and ho's were significantly reduced or non-existent today fellas would be forced step it up. Women owe it to themselves, to each other, and to our offspring (until the last generation) to collectively hold themselves in high esteem; viewing their wombs as sacred. This, in turn, would cause an ascension in man. He'd have no choice but to come correct, offering a desirous dowry when asking for someone's daughter.
The entire pecking order has been thrown off because women have been led to believe that they can stand in a man's station. It is ignorant to believe that our stations in life are equal or interchangeable. They are incomparable.
Methinks that by and large women choosing a mate is a fairly recent phenomena in the history of man as is marrying for love.
In tandem with other sophisticatedly orchestrated moves we've seem the family, as an institution, deteriorate. It's gradual deterioration directly tied to so-called socially liberating schematics. Disguised as freedoms this mess has had a deleterious effect. The problem is that "ignorance and freedom are incompatible".
The male's role and design is to be the head, the leader. Just as the anatomical head governs the self. Decisions are his to be made. Rebellion against this arrangement is nothing new hence the stories of men dragging females with one hand a club in the other or the infamous dog chase the cat scenario. My grandmother would say men are pursuers and women pursuees.
The females role in all of this is elevation. If tricks and ho's were significantly reduced or non-existent today fellas would be forced step it up. Women owe it to themselves, to each other, and to our offspring (until the last generation) to collectively hold themselves in high esteem; viewing their wombs as sacred. This, in turn, would cause an ascension in man. He'd have no choice but to come correct, offering a desirous dowry when asking for someone's daughter.
The entire pecking order has been thrown off because women have been led to believe that they can stand in a man's station. It is ignorant to believe that our stations in life are equal or interchangeable. They are incomparable.
KP said ..
Professor indeed.
The sad part is an impressionable segment of society sees this information as "a position", "a school of thought", "an opinion" rather than primal biological analysis.
This does not suggest however, that all men are fit to lead with an iron fist by divine right, but fit to lead with wisdom within and, most of all, by his side.
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Professor indeed.
The sad part is an impressionable segment of society sees this information as "a position", "a school of thought", "an opinion" rather than primal biological analysis. This does not suggest however, that all men are fit to lead with an iron fist by divine right, but fit to lead with wisdom within and, most of all, by his side.
KP
I don't know pimpin'...
I don't know if women mean to or even want to be in a man's position. That's wack. I think women feel compelled to_______.
Let's assume you've all not realized that a great MANY men are not coming correct. Are not choosing. Are not enjoying their god given place. And that might not be too far off of an assumption considering couples are getting married later in age. Doesn't this suggest that many women are still waiting on their kings?
If what I assume is true, naturally a movement would arise that puts women in a position of perhaps not choosing a man, but being more involved in the choice.
I prefer to see things in cause and effect. I refuse to ignore that most people choose to remain a victim of circumstance. The time in which you refer to is not necessarily outdated but it is not present. Just as is the idea of waiting on the rise in consciousness of a black community.
In typical O. fashion I will assert that I can and if need be will, choose my husband when I am ready to wed if I am not "chosen".
Whack is relative sis. I'm a grown ass 40 y/o single mother of four, divorced approx 3 yrs. I am up before dawn and down late. This is serious, not dress rehearsal. Between my busy life and out moded thinking process I have garnered two marriage proposals since my divorce - no dating. Men see a good a woman and want her on they team period dot!
My female relatives and friends wanna know what I'm doing, too foolish to see it's about how I'm living or perhaps moreso how I'm not living. My male relatives say - "Nicki,start a class!"
Well Nick, that may very well be the case. But, as you said, you are in a different age bracket. Men in your "arena" are different players.
I'm 26 and have been proposed to twice as well (ironic) but I didn't want them and I know I probably won't want the third that is due very soon.
Since we're sharing, the man I will marry knows exactly when I want to be married and how. He also knows that until then he has no chance. Now, I bet on him not turning his eyes...but if you were me sis you'd bet on me too.
All I'm saying is.... there is reason women are becoming "choosey lovers" and if it were all up to a man to lead the way....
they'd be leading it, wouldn't they?
Nicki, I am taking a bow to you... Teach!
Women thinking they choosing when they're ready to choose, Oh, really?
"...the man I will marry knows exactly when I want to be married and how. He also knows that until then he has no chance. Now, I bet on him not turning his eyes..." -O
I process on different frequencies sometimes, could you elaborate just a bit.
Hi Gee. (miss youuu *winks and smiles a mile) lol now..
"I process on different frequencies sometimes, could you elaborate just a bit."
Yes, you do. ;) Shamefully, I may or may not be that complicated depending on the conversation...
The man I will marry has already stated and proven his interest in marrying and having children with me. At the time I was not ready. And I wasn't sure that he was either. My motto is "if you're not married, you're single" so technically he has every right and freedom to be with any one else. And he has tried in the past but in the end...I'm the one. I have in turn told him that I will be ready at a particular time that he and I only know about. While he may want to marry before that time, it will not happen with me. It is not meant to happen. Before that time, I gamble with the possibility that he may decide not to wait and choose someone else.
But I don't believe that will happen. I tell him that I will be married at the time in which I am ready. Whether it's with him or not. I don't think it's in a young man's nature these days to want to be married to a woman unless: 1. she gives them unlimited freedom 2. she is a breadwinner 3. he will never find a more beautiful and delightful woman.
I'm gunning for #3. And to eliminate the pussy footing, I put every man claiming interest in "my womb" lol on schedule. I need not advise them to be on time.
I tell him that I will be married at the time in which I am ready. Whether it's with him or not.
Your man is gay. Plain and simple. Any man tolerating this control freak clap trap switched teams long ago. But I don't need to tell you the obvious - you already know that...or you would have married him already.
I'm 26 and have been proposed to twice as well (ironic) but I didn't want them and I know I probably won't want the third that is due very soon.
O, my girl, you are a fag hag honey. You can attract 'em, can't you? If men you don't want are proposing to you, it says a whole lot about YOU. You delight in humiliating "men" and you seek out "men" who like to be humiliated.
And it is from this attraction to homosexual "men" that you arrive at this delicious batch of psychobabble -
I don't think it's in a young man's nature these days to want to be married to a woman unless: 1. she gives them unlimited freedom 2. she is a breadwinner 3. he will never find a more beautiful and delightful woman.
Good luck honey. If your husband comes out of the closet a year into your faux marriage - whenever you are ready for it - don't say you weren't warned.
Dina
"Your man is gay."
Lol. Next ignorant assumption-
If men you don't want are proposing to you, it says a whole lot about YOU.
Yep. But remember I've stated that the ONE I do want has already asked too. I could get your man to propose too. I'm sure he'd get a real kick out of having a woman who lays it on the line and gets what she wants when she wants it. Don't hate chick. Get dick. ;)
"You delight in humiliating "men" and you seek out "men" who like to be humiliated"
Who's on the psychobabble now? Humiliation? Nah. I think every man that has proposed to me is absolutely amazing. And I wish I could marry them all. Each time I've felt slighted by saying no.
It's so sad that you think that men who follow their women in regard to this is homosexual. To think that a woman should have little or no say in when she gets married is stupid of you. Giving a clever woman what she wants at times is not only manly but intelligent. But you don't really matter.
In the end I'll be very happily married with the man I want at the time that I want him while peaceful back bending chicks like you will sit back wishing you were in my shoes.
Hilarious. You call all that clever?
Not quite. It's the childish delusions of a woman who thinks physical appearance means everything and honor means nothing. And you attract men who obviously have the same philosophy. Which, properly translated, is Gay.
If you cared anything about a man who was about to propose, but you didn't plan to accept, you would spare him that humiliation. You wouldn't let him be played the fool in front of you, himself, and whomever else he let in on the ring shopping. You wouldn't let him spend money on a piece of jewelry you didn't intend to accept, you wouldn't even let him bring up the subject.
If you were wife material, you would protect his honor, dignity and respect long before there was a marriage.
You're not "ready" to get married because you are too busy palling around with gay guys and collecting proposals from them, so you can brag to random people on a blog that you turned them down.
This ain't about the timing of marriage. A real man would have your ass ready yesterday. But you are not attracted to men and therein lies the problem.
Dina
Dina Dina Dina,
Dude. Chill. Out.
Who said they were humiliated?
You did.
I never said I let anyone buy a ring, or let it get to a point in which there was a public proposal. Stop assuming crazy chick.
Whether you believe I'm ready or not, does not make my future any less happily married with the one I want when the time is best for me.
"A real man would have your ass ready yesterday."
I've found my real man. But I'm not ready for him. I need more time.
I've got some things to do first.
Sorry.
Oh my goodness, ROFLMEAO, ok, ok, I get it.
There weren't actual proposals. And there isn't an actual proposal coming. Just fanciful discussions about marriage with random men none of whom is the one you will marry. Kinda like on Friends, when Rachel and Joey promise that if each is not married by 30, they will be each other's back-up (or whatever pop culture term the writers coined). :-)
My bad for misunderstanding that we were talking about a Friends episode, not your life.
Oh Dina.
No, I thought you might've had some experience with proposals. Guess not.
See those real men you were talking about would most certainly ask for your hand, in private, before going out on a huge limb and surprising someone they have yet to even discuss marriage with. It doesn't quite happen like it does on tv like..."friends?" is that the show you referenced?
"It's the childish delusions of a woman who thinks physical appearance means everything and honor means nothing."
Hahahaha. You must be referring to this comment: "he will never find a more beautiful and delightful woman."
I agree. It's not everything.
But what do you have against being beautiful and delightful?
I'm mature enough to understand that beauty is relative. I'm lucky enough to have a man who finds me exceptionally beautiful and delightful. He knows me well enough not to question my honor etc....
At the end of the day "honey" it's the photograph of me that he is showing to his friends. Not my unquestionable respect. No delusions about that.
""he will never find a more beautiful and delightful woman."OM
I don't know ...
I aint got no problem with that statement.
It is what it is.
I think OM may have a pretty good point here.
1) This cat is feeling me
2) I don't blame him
3) If he's the man for me he will make me feel the same
4) So far he hasn't
5) It's going to take more to marry me than wanting to marry me
6) I believe there is a man out there who can make me feel that way
7) I'm 26 years old, I can afford to give him a few more minutes to find me.
If the sista is half as bad as she thinks she is, I believe it's a good bet.
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