The new forced schooling octopus taught anyone unable to escape its tentacles that inert knowledge - memorizing the dots - is the gold standard of intellectual achievement. [The DMG phenomenon] Not connecting those dots. It set out to create a reflexive obedience to official directions [Plantation Negros] as opposed to accepting responsibility for one's own learning.These habit trainings are among the most important weapons of mass instruction. On the higher levels of the school pyramid, among those labeled "gifted" and "talented", the standard is more sophisticated: there children are required to memorize both dots as well as what experts say is the correct way to connect those dots into narratives: even to memorize several conflicting expert analyses in a simulation of genuine critical thinking. Original thinking in dot connection is patronized at times, but always subtly discouraged. Twelve to twenty years of stupefying memorization drills weakens the heartiest of intellects.
R&G said...
Long time reader first time responder.
I always tell cats the way you are being taught doesn't lead to any originality.
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Long time reader first time responder. I always tell cats the way you are being taught doesn't lead to any originality. This is why so many people are unemployed as their natural instincts of the sky is falling was retarded by their education saying they are secure.
We have our so called brightest taking pride in being professional regurgitaters.
We have our so called brightest taking pride in being professional regurgitaters.
Indeed. Once upon a time, I contemplated getting a PhD. My father asked, "why, so you can write books about other books?" One need only look at the footnotes on any so-called intellectual book to realize that little original thought occurs in so-called places of learning.
In fact, the more footnotes in a paper, the more lauded it is. Translation - the less original it is, the better.
Original thinking in dot connection is patronized at times, but always subtly discouraged.
It is overtly discouraged. Just observe the reflexive need by many to scream "conspiracy theory" when they hear a connection of dots that has not been pre-approved by their thought masters.
or just plain "dumbass" when it's a pure and unattributed regurgitation of phil collins or alex jones...,
or just plain "dumbass" when it's a pure and unattributed regurgitation of phil collins or alex jones...,
lol.
yeah.
as opposed to all that "Original CNu" Sci-Fi, LeVar Burton, Star Trek, Revenge of The Nerds, HyperTiger Wannabe, talking bacteria, Jigaboo Gurdjieff, Pro Late Term Abortion bullshit over on your blog nobody reads.
bama ass blog stalker.
Negro, you here so much, you can't possibly even read your own spot.
Mad at me cuz you a lame.
lol,
I'm mad at you in exactly the same way a child is mad at a pinata..., and for exactly the same reason - you big ole pinche joto pinata...,
I'm mad at you in exactly the same way a child is mad at a pinata..., and for exactly the same reason - you big ole pinche joto pinata...,
lol.
oh.
ok.
I get it.
that must be "I'm mad because I'm on your Johnson" ... in Espanol.
Well gee Mr. Vesey, maybe you'd understand what hit meant if you went to school.
I suppose the people who designed your computer, home, mobile phone, "whip" you like to brag about so much, and high tech golf clubs were all self-taught, or home schooled, and never attended university.
Please stop. My sides are hurting from laughter.
I really don't care about your ranting about the U.S. education system. I went to fantastic schools from elementary through university, and medical school. I was challenged to think critically and creatively every step of the way. I know there are schools out there that don't come close and are failing. That's a problem. One that won't be solved with your silly proclamations.
You moan on and on about regurgitation...yeah, sure you have to have a fund of knowledge. Maybe memorizing the periodic table has some value when one is discussing practical aspects of chemistry (like Fluoridation in the water system), or knowing the difference between the elemental and ionic forms of matter. Maybe remembering the details of a macro and micro economics will help you not make a foolish financial decision in the future.
I'll take a creative person who has a solid foundation in a broad range of subjects over an equally creative person who has sat staring at his toenails and reading idiotic blogs for 4 years.
But, you know, you don't have to back up statements like this on a blog:
"One need only look at the footnotes on any so-called intellectual book to realize that little original thought occurs in so-called places of learning"
Yes it's conspiracy theory when dots that are obviously meant to be a circle are connected in a way that draws a picture of whatever devil you are afraid of at the moment.
Garbage in garbage out. I mean, why don't you ask Wax about digestive physiology again....I'm sure he's worked out the kinks in his "theories" (guesses), by now.
"I really don't care about your ranting about the U.S. education system. I went to fantastic schools from elementary through university, and medical school. I was challenged to think critically and creatively every step of the way." DMG
Really?
Cool.
Share with us some of your critical and creative thinking:
__________________________ ?
that must be "I'm mad because I'm on your Johnson" ... in Espanol.
sabes que ese?
llame a su costa rican amigos "pinche jotos"!
rotflmbao....,
...you mean like dissecting and dismantling EVERY weak ass "theory" you've had over the last 18 months. You mean critical thinking as in using the tenets of logic in my arguments and pointing out and naming your fallacious attempts?
Again, you must be on some sort of comedy roll today. You are hysterical.
DMG said...
"...you mean like dissecting and dismantling EVERY weak ass "theory" you've had over the last 18 months."
Doc.
Please.
You are delusional.
If you were so smart ... why are your patients so sick?
Why are they so obese?
Why does CNu have tits?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your Moorish "science"?
Same fallacy laden "arguments". You really are like a petulant little girl who was told she's ugly and smells funny.
Get some new schtick.
Again, why don't you go ahead and make yourself useful and entertain me with a rhyme?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your "Genetically Modified Food"?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your "Chemotherapy"?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your "mercury laden vaccines"?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your endorsement of "Processed denatured food"?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up "Liposuction as a treatment for obesity"?
When are you going to come up with some facts and evidence to back up your "being a drug pusher for corporate drug dealers"?
1. You don't even know what genetically modified means. Actually humans have been "genetically modifying" their food for millennia.
2. I don't need to "come up" with any evidence on chemotherapy. There are volumes of it available. Alot if it is within your reach on Google. Not hard to find. Would you like me to tell you about increased rates of disease free survival in ER+ breast cancers with use of SERMs? Evidence is widely available. Nobody is hiding it.
3. Mercury "laden"? Really. Name one. Then tell me how much and what kind of Mercury it is. You realize there are different forms right? The minute amount that was in children's vaccines before 2001 never penetrated beyond the skin.
4. I don't endorse any foods. That's your thing. I just said a person doesn't have to eat $40 bread and Maca smoothies, or other rabbit food. By the way...humans have also been "processing" their food for millennia too....and you are using the term "denatured" incorrectly....you sound stupid every time you write it (well that and many other things you write...).
5. Liposuction isn't a "treatment for obesity". It's a cosmetic procedure for vain people with too much money.
6. Yes, yes "drug" pusher. You know, for someone supposedly so superior you have the creativity of a slug. You repeat yourself again and again with the same worn out slogans and phrases. All you have to do is juxtapose a drug dealer with legitimately prescribing medication for a particular purpose...mix in corporate, and voila--indignation. Despite your masturbatory fantasy of a "big pharma" cabal where physicians greedily "sell" medication like some sort of multi-level marketing scam, physicians don't work on commission.
7. Just admit it, you are angry because I'm not on your team selling the latest unproven, untested holy water that cures whatever ails you from smelly feet to sarcoidosis.
8. Misdirection doesn't work on me. If you can't answer my questions, don't be a bitch. Attempting to change the subject is what you would term pure "faggotry".
Now, get back on the stroll where you belong. You aren't smart enough to fuck with me. And that's real talk.
LOL .... ahh man.
Doc you a clown with a stethoscope.
A parrot with a hypodermic needle.
A Negro Slave Catcher with a medical degree.
If you didn't exist I'd have to invent you.
You have single-handedly helped me dispel 60 years of medical industrial propaganda in 24 months.
If you never came back after tonight, you've provided me years of material.
rotflmbao..,
pinche joto...,
You a clown with a keyboard.
A parrot of Alex Jones/Lyndon LaRouche
A Chickenhead Catcher in Paul Smiths
If you didn't exist
I wouldn't have a dependable source of daily amusement.
The two words our host/clown fears the most is:
PROVE IT.
Every kid on the play ground knows what the ultimate challenge to all that yammering is.
Motherfuckers who talk shit, but can't back it up, get beat the fuck down.
It's simple.
Bitch ass.
you HAVE to take it humorously and with a grain of pink salt.
you know as well as I do that science is the epitome of democratic, open-source, free cultural expression - the very quintessence of PROVE IT - whose only price of admission is the intelligence and studiousness required to understand and work with the expository and explanatory tools of the game - yet, here we have this fin d'siecle pimp-in-a-pulpit peddling the same type of ignant authoritarian hokum that my grandmother used to call "breath and britches".
really?!?!?!?!
think about that magne.
what.in.the.world could possibly motivate even the least well trained, least well educated brother in the year 2011 to pretend to be anti-science?
that he wastes so many cycles of his own time and talents on trying to one-up cats steeped in and expert at the very best that open-source culture has to offer - is a testament to the infantile state of his own psychological development.
but that's what it's down to.
since he's not personally equipped to play the "science game" at all - not equipped to hold his own at the democratic art of "PROVE IT" - all that's left to this frailest of frail egos in search of validation is to denigrate both the game itself, and, those capable of helping others improve their understanding of and proficiency with the game.
as you very well know and doubtless agree, he can make this stop anytime he chooses. but it will mean publicly coming to grips with his own limitations.
since by the age of 50 a man's psyche is rather permanently crystallized into whatever it's ultimately going to be - I think we can safely conclude that he's beyond any such epiphany and renunciation of the error of his ways.
that being the case, we'll both just have to keep knocking the candy out of his candy-ass - thereby enabling him to keep pretending that we're enemies of the truth - instead of the enemies of ignorance - and so it will go until everyone loses interest in this 19th century breath and britches hokum this jiggaboo is peddling.
everything else is merely conversation...,
RACIST SOCIETY, RACIST SCIENCE
http://www.human-nature.com/rmyoung/papers/rac1.html
Wrong GCV...,
Dead wrong.
Because its "facts" and its theories don't stand up to the PROVE IT test, which is precisely why it has been weeded out of the scientific mainstream - now more than ever.
OTOH - racist breath and britches are forever....,
That word mainstream...in hip hop signifies "cash'n checks" as well as anything else.
Outside of mainstream's immediate trigger definition, and putting aside racism in science, Young critiques the scientific mainstream. He argues "...where do scientists' questions come from? What leads to the priorities, agendas, assumptions and fashions of science? Science is not something in the sky, not a set of eternal truths waiting for discovery. Science is a practice. There is no other science than the science that gets done. THE SCIENCE THAT EXISTS IS THE RECORD OF THE QUESTIONS THAT IT HAS OCCURRED TO SCIENTISTS TO ASK, THE PROPOSALS THAT GET FUNDED, THE PATHS THAT GET PURSUED, AND THE RESULTS WHICH LEAD CURIOSITY TO REST AND SCIENTIFIC JOURNALS AND TEXTBOOKS TO PUBLICIZE THE WORK."
I always see medical programs that cover Chinese medicine, then at the end, without fail, they say "but there aren’t any studies to supported these claims" or "we have found no supporting evidence" blahness. I think it was dealing with bee stings and arthritis. Those attitudes don’t come off objective and/or unbiased to me. They come off as if the west pulled science out their ass while the entire world sat twiddling their thumbs.
Young argues "THERE WAS SCIENCE BEFORE THE 'SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION' IN THE SIXTEENTH AND SEVENTEENTH CENTURIES. THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT THE WORLD-ALTERNATIVE WORLD VIEWS-IN DIFFERENT CULTURES AS WELL AS IN OUR OWN. IF WE TRY TO THINK LIKE ANTHROPOLOGISTS, WE CAN LOOK AT SCIENTISTS AS A TRIBE AND THE ASSUMPTIONS OF SCIENCE AS A BELIEF SYSTEM. There is a literature about some of these matters which shows how our'tribe' and others construct their world-views or cosmologies and set up knowledge systems, technologies and cures within that framework. The institutions and the educational systems which reproduce them propagate the priorities and values of that tribe."
"The United States health industry is operating at over two hundred billion dollars per year. This produces dramatic scientific findings, but their connections should also be spelled out. Much of this money feeds the drug industry, the insurance industry, the medical equipment industry, the hospital construction industry. Beyond this, large profits are derived from the private management of medical facilities and the remuneration of medical practitioners and researchers." He goes on to say what is often repeated here, "Medicine like other forms of technology is big business."
Mainstream science needs a make over.
where do scientists' questions come from? What leads to the priorities, agendas, assumptions and fashions of science? Science is not something in the sky, not a set of eternal truths waiting for discovery.
So?
Science is a consistent and open-source process of ruthless interrogation and PROOF generation.
None of what you said above about the cultural biases of particular questioners and theorizers matters as long as you're a participant in the game of PROVE IT yourself.
If you're not up to that task, and you're consigned to uninformed head-scratching about what those participating in the global open-source culture of science are up to, well, then, that's the breaks. Nobody's fault but your own.
(p.s., the chinese don't give a damn about what anybody thinks about traditional chinese medicine - they not only keep doing what they've been doing for millenia -they also do what westerners do because it has indisputable value and serves the chinese quest for truth and mastery of the world)
the only folks scared of science or denigrating science are ignorant, pitchfork-wielding peasants who simply can't cut it.
"The United States health industry is operating at over two hundred billion dollars per year.
How old is this drivel?
The U.S. medical industrial complex yields ~$2.5 Trillion in gross revenues. While many of its practices are in need of significant improvement, (hospitals are simultaneously the most expensive and the least pleasant hotels in the world) you ain't see the Saudi's stay at home and receive care from Aramco, no, they come running at supersonic speeds to get the very best care that money can buy in the U.S.
If folks who can afford to go anywhere and obtain any care available to humans are choosing the U.S., that says something pretty objective and clear about the quality of what is available here and here alone.
Where else are you suppose to go for medical treatment if you worship "USA very very good"(thumbs up with an arab accent). They name there children George after Bush and love some blond white women. I know how them boys roll.
The first place they come to is Houston. See them in the medical center, bald, no eyebrows from the cancer treatment.
I'm not worried about the Chinese practicing Chinese medicine. It is our medical field with their indisputable value & 2.5 trillion in gross revenues that's concerned about the peons finding alternatives inclusive of Chinese medicine.
All of this science. Who is the science suppose to be helping? Global open source for who? The peons? What do people do? Folks ain't scared of science, they're scared of paying $800.00 for some Gatorade like I did for my son. People scared of Lysol disinfecting dope dealers.
Getting something crazy pumped into your blood stream is not the same as getting bad fuel put into your car. People have a right to be skeptical about medical science just as much as they are skeptical about the judicial system. A cat in a white lab coat can be as "objective" as a cat in a black gown.
Gee Chee,
Are you really interested in this topic or are you just yelling to hear your own echo?
If you are interested ask me (one question at time), and I'll try to answer some of your questions.
If you are just ranting shoot an insult at me, to let me know and I'll leave it alone.
If you want to push someones buttons go punch a clock.
People have a right to be skeptical about medical science just as much as they are skeptical about the judicial system. A cat in a white lab coat can be as "objective" as a cat in a black gown.
sho's you right.
however, a Black man in a white lab coat is a full participant in the global open-source culture with sufficient access to the source code, technical and operational details, and peer-review of all of the above, that the probability of either a hoodwink or a bamboozle is reduced to zero-to-none.
I will tell you exactly what I've told every.single.person.with.whom I've ever discussed this subject - when dealing with the medical industrial complex, it is imperative that you deal with folks with whom you have a relationship in which you actually matter as a person.
Your physician should be your friend outside the context of your medical transaction(s). But then, this is true for most all consequential business dealings, right? Anything less than that is an interpersonal failing on your own part, not an ecclesiastical failing by the ministry of medicine (oops, I forgot, the "ministries" have become almost uniformly for-profit enterprises dealing with their clientele through the same litigious channels that banks, insurers, and other for-profit service purveyors are obliged to deal)
oh well, caveat emptor..,
Thanks Gee Chee. At least you are straight forward.
Dude, I just took an IQ test for some woman trying to get some type of advanced degree.
When she got to the vocabulary section and asked whether I was 'making up words' I just quit trying.
"You know... You're not really smart enough to administer this test to me." I said as I walked out.
Her prof stopped me in the mall later that week and told me that I was right.
Much of today's 'learning' is just seeing who can repeat the current memes.
Intellectual Insurgent said...
Indeed. Once upon a time, I contemplated getting a PhD. My father asked, "why, so you can write books about other books?" One need only look at the footnotes on any so-called intellectual book to realize that little original thought occurs in so-called places of learning.
In fact, the more footnotes in a paper, the more lauded it is. Translation - the less original it is, the better.
Those "footnotes" are to give credit to the original source of the information so the writer does not risk plagiarizing. Sadly, those who didn't go to college can't even name their sources. Take DV for example, "I had heard, read, seen from somewhere that GMO turns babies gay." Who was the source DV? The medical science field of XYZ.. yea, that's it.
I'm still waiting to go on a date with a brother who DIDN'T go to college that I can actually have an intelligent conversation with. Perhaps a conversation that doesn't include something about his car,the new house he just bought or business venture he has yet to pursue. Yawn.
I'll take a college educated brother ANY day. The ones who never went love to rant. Go 'head.. you'll forever be at the bottom of the barrel.
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