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Gee Chee said ...
I'm embarrassed to send long posts, but it's only conversation. Read it if you want to wear your eyeballs out.

These aren't conclusions reached alone by my own experiences but cats been in it longer, including the Denmark/Cnu convo.

People investing in the vote are not encouraged by the federal government. If Prop 19 had passed, Attorney General Holder would not have recognized the majority vote to legalize marijuana. Those in power have a conditional love or recognition for “majority rules.”

Defining the “black community” in terms of being self-sustaining, having inexhaustible loyalty, dedication and support as well as accessibility to local common people, I believe is best exemplified by the institution of the church. 

I DON’T believe they have any direction or substantial solutions for the preservation of the “black community” and it’s generations. They are fickle when it comes to generational challenges. Crumbling under the pressure of media, concerned about popularity poles with the very groups that weren’t interested in their wellbeing to begin with. Whenever the media launched a belligerent campaign against the black youth they seem to join the lynch mob. Sort of like a parent taking the side of school administration against their own child. It’s no wonder the following generations search for a “younger version” of Christianity or abandoned the religion all together.

The Nation has sustained the tradition of loyal supporters. Naturally since their members share the same indigenous histories. However I think their creed makes it difficult for most black folk to assimilate into. That was over looked at a time because you could see them as the “black church” but only with a voice that charges black self-esteem while providing the concept of building an institution taking full responsibility for their own cosmologies and definitions of how to reassess the world.

The change of atmosphere I believe has made a lot of the doctrine the Nation offer to appear outdated or unsubstantial. Because not only because of race but the challenges of western science. Today’s generation won’t be taken back by a War of the Worlds broadcast in the same manner the original broadcast had received.

Sunni Islam has centuries of successful civilization that is even responsible for an existing western civilization. The Nation revived those concepts amongst black people. A concept that had become viral throughout the so-called African continent because it gain a reputation for standing on the side of the oppressed, establishing justice and an unflinching check of abusive rulers. That was the platform of the Nation extending into the movements of Warith Deen and black sunni Americans all owing their origins to the African Muslim slaves but the latter two owing their beginnings to the Nation.

Warith Deen’s community didn’t have as much as a cultural impact within the neighborhoods as the Nation and the black sunnis such as the Dar-Salaam Movement. They created a comfortable atmosphere for immigrants to bring their traditional clothing out of the storage trunks. However having ties with both the Nation and Sunni groups, Warith Deen seemed to function as a liaison between the two. Unlike the Nation and the black church the sunni groups dealt with a lot of identity issues. Going through a period of abandoning their indigenous heritage for immigrant influences. This created a devastating impact on their relations with the black communities throughout the late 70’s and early 80’s.

They spent so much time trying to prove their differences between true Islam and the Nation, concerns for the rehabilitation of a spiritual and moral code became secondary. A self-sustaining movement was still in effected but devoured itself by approaching solutions of the landscape through the eyes of immigrant Arabs and Southeast Asians. That had devastating impact on their success. Now there is a confederacy taking place between the Nation and Sunnis. Not in belief but as a need for the two to combine efforts that was initially obstructed by the hard core stance in creeds and Malcolm’s death.

If the black church can stick to a theology and confederate with indigenous American Muslims for an understanding of the preservation of a unique cultural identity, then they will move away from the ineffectiveness of the popular system of existence.

People think of their existence being contingent on western classification of modern advancement. How can voting for better resources for schools beat out black people building less churches and facilities for home schools. If they will do that but still poison them with the same concepts public school provide then what’s the purpose. They look for the “black face in the right place.”

In terms of ethics the black Muslim communities are becoming the larger segment of black people pulling their children out of public education in attempts of damage control with the minds and spirits of their youth. However because of the many outside influences and interpretations obscuring cohesive communities on the scale of the black church they become lone crusaders without institutional support.

So the potential and alternatives for being a self-powered peoples is obtainable. The real CoIntelPro is in ourselves.

“Truly, God does not change the condition of a people until they change themselves.” (Quran 13:11)

Even if one doesn’t believe in God still the initiative has to be there first. Voting is not an attempt to fix a situation YOURSELF. It is asking for someone to do it for you. And if they don’t do it for you, you sit and wait to vote for another to do it.

You can’t convince people that their situation will change with a vote. They feel good when they are there amongst other people in high spirits but when it fails they are still eating 40 cent noodles and looking for a job. The majority of people have to see something immediate. Cats on the corner patrolling to deter crime, neighborhood food programs, employing youth for neighborhood activities.

Don’t tell them they own their neighborhood, give them employment before they are even old enough to work that is directly involves them in rehabilitating their neighborhood. So the adults do the community service for free and the youth are paid for it. These are very human actions that begin to create investments for a supported youth while you work to change your conditions. You have to feed people. That is the quickest way to the hearts. In feeding them hold workshops on proper eating habits. Preparation of food. The right foods. At least they can begin to associate the liquor stores and fast food spots with their own destruction.

That is what all these Negroes that come together to make their institutions rich every Sunday. If anybody should be voted out of office it’s the Negro in the pulpit that is a broken record player every Sunday. Pressure him not the politician. The politician got his pressures from the cotton or logger industry giving kick backs to insure marijuana remains illegal. But that pastor is right there in knuckle reach.

Col. Prouty said, “Nothing just happens, everything is planned.” Voting is contingent on that your representatives aren’t going to take a payoff, that the majority of people aren’t influenced by a media monster scaring you into supporting war over your neighbor. We look at youth with their pants sagging while annually dressing children to look like zombies and Harry Potter. But that doesn’t have to be us. We can create group fasts. Group turn the tv off for a week. Comes off extreme for humans riding the media trolley to King Friday’s castle every day.  


CNu said...
Most all of what you said is truth GCV, particularly wrt negroes in the pulpit.

I have only two concerns to note to your attention;

1. The quality of exposition you shared down here in the bowels of larouche noir is sadly and utterly wasted. You know jiggaboo jones and chickenhead crew can't hold up their end of this calibre of discourse.

2. The elite establishment has its crosshairs firmly trained on al-islam, for reasons rooted in its measured potential coherence, and, because of the unfortunate location of irreplaceable natural material resources under muslim occupied soil.

American Black folk need to figure out and construct an independent 3rd way free of negroes in the pulpit and desert semites in the crosshairs whose culture has been targeted for global destruction.

Oh, and that 3rd way needs to be an evolutionary leap beyond the early 19th century hokum of the NOI, the Moorish Science temple, or the many and sundry kneegrow greek letter organizations, all of which have shown themselves essentially useless as the basis for proper organization and implementation of a plan for generalized uplift.

Denmark Vesey said...

1.  Ever notice it's always some fat, flat footed, pork eating jealous nerd ... who couldn't pull a woman with a tow-truck ...  calling sisters "chicken heads"?  Mad because women generally have shown little interest in his misanthropic Sci-Fi dooms day fantasies & wannabe Hypertiger scenarios, he sits around crafting odd little conspiracy theories about the brothers they do feel. 

2. The "elite establishment" wages war on Islam because Islam is one of the last bastions of genuine God worship.  The "elite establishment" is the Scientific Dictatorship that wants us to worship man, not God.    The "elite establishment" maintains power by operating a monopoly on the knowable.  This 'knowledge cartel' has conditioned little country peasant nobodies like CNu, who scored well enough on an "aptitude" test or two during his day, to conflate its dogma, memes and rituals with "science" itself. 

3.  The Nation.  The Moors.  Garvey.  The "50 page book" brothers were smart enough and courageous enough to escape the mind control of the elite establishment.  Look at how carefully they approached diet even 50 years ago.  Which is why, for the most part, these black men don't have man-boobs today.

Which is more than many of these brothers who are supposed to be so smart can say.