Exodus Mentality said ...
"I maintain that the only GLOBALLY operating power dynamic that can be readily identified and has been continuously in place for centuries, is the dynamic of people who classify themselves as white exercising power, oppressive control, and genocidal tendencies, across all areas of people activities, over people who are classified as non-white.I challenge you or anyone to identify another system that has those characteristics. Not just the particular power structure of the moment, but an ongoing and physically evident pattern over an extended course of time."
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Is it really necessary to continuously misrepresent my position in order to bolster yours? You know damn well that the current state of any particular white peasant, or group of white peasants is not germane to the discussion of the dynamic I have postulated. Peasants have always been expendable in the grand scheme of things. You also know as well as I do that it is a documented FACT that a white peasant with a felony conviction is more likely to get a job when in competition with a college educated, never arrested Black man?
Ex.
1) Brother. I didn't "misrepresent" you.
I quoted you.
Verbatim.
2) "You also know as well as I do that it is a documented FACT that a white peasant with a felony conviction is more likely to get a job when in competition with a college educated, never arrested Black man?"
I know no such thing.
Fact? Come on Bra.
I don't know that as a fact at all.
Actually, it sounds rather ridiculous to me.
It sounds like one of those things people say enough times they take it for granted without actually thinking about it.
Get a job?
White felon? Get a job before a brother with a degree?
I can't believe you said that.
That really surprises me.
How could one possibly measure something like that?
Get a job? Get a job from whom? Get a job doing what?
What does that prove?
As a matter of fact Exodus ... I would expect a white felon who could operate a combine harvester to get a job before a black college graduate with a degree in Afro-American studies from A&T.
Even if he never "went to jail".
I think the fact that black college graduates are seeking jobs from white people in the first place is the problem.
That's not "White Supremacy".
That's "Negro Stupidity".
Hell I'm willing to bet a black man with a felony who can build social networking apps can get a job before a white college graduate with a degree in Social Ecology.
What does that tell us?
Are white people racists for failing to "employ" black people?
What group of people ever empowered themselves as ... "employees"?
Now Ex.
Please don't characterize my questions as "unfair" or "insincere" simply because you fail to answer them.
I think my questions are fair and simple and obvious.
Forgive my tone. I mean no harm.
It's just that I have yet to meet a white person superior to me.
Certainly, you can understand why I have such a difficult time accepting your "Global System of White Supremacy" prima facie.
...I got you on the social networking apps playah....nuttin but a word...lol
lol?
Yeah?
You need to hit me up.
Man I aint mad at ya. I just got to keep you in line.
You did quote me verbatim. And the phrasing of your topic question in juxtaposition to my statement certainly was intended to give the misrepresentation that I say all white people are better than and/or doing better than Black people. You aren't a fool DV, kindly don't treat me like one.
Consumate researcher that you are, great purveyor of knowledge from all spectrums, guess you don't keep up with little stuff like that. My bad. Feel free to Google it. Several studies, and live recorded tests have demonstrated this. And no brother, it was not a college educated Black guy trying to get a blue collar job. There you go again, trying to bolster your position by creating an absurd strawman scenario.
It proves that whiteness can be an advantage. It proves about as much as your picture of poor white people proves that there is no such thing as a whiteness advantage.
Oh, and are you saying no Black man should ever have a job? You almost made me think you were a fool with that one. But this time I think you just stirring the pot cause you can.
and FOR THE VERY LAST DAMN TIME. I HAVE NEVER MET ANY PERSON, WHITE BLACK OR OTHERWISE WHO I CONSIDER TO BE SUPERIOR TO ME. I can certainly understand and respect that you and countless other believe the same about yourselves.
This is not now, nor has it ever been, about something that simple.
GSWS is a dynamic wherein the majority of the people who classify themselves as white participate in a global EFFORT to dominate and subjugate all persons who are classified as non-white. And that system has been effectively the dominant GLOBAL social reality for the past 20 centuries. I further believe that this dynamic is based on a reaction formation to an obvious genetic recessive trait, skin with little or no pigment, that has over time developed into a group neurosis manifesting hostility and aggression. It is based on a misguided attempt to avoid genetic annihilation.
What part of that last paragraph can you twist up to make it seem like I think you or I or any other Black person is in fact inferior to white people?
The reason I keep going through this with you is that I am hoping that one day, you will actually address the GSWS as I present it and not as you pervert it. I don't expect you to accept it at first glance, or even independent of observation. And because I think it is important to moving forward as a people and as a species that we understand why things are the way they are. Why there is even a "plantation" to begin with. Understanding, at the foundational level, will make the job of repairing and replacing, the necessary task of evolving past where we are, that much more possible.
"And the phrasing of your topic question in juxtaposition to my statement certainly was intended to give the misrepresentation that I say all white people are better than and/or doing better than Black people." EM
Actually Ex. No.
My topic question wasn't about what you say.
My topic question was about what I say.
Which is ... IF THERE IS A SYSTEM OF SUPREMACY PREDICATED BY WHITENESS ... Why do I feel so much better off than the 47 year old white cat who just delivered twelve 5 gallon glass bottles of oxygen rich ionized glacial water to the crib and the 54 year old white cat who cuts the grass in the back yard careful not to fuck up my golf balls?
If THE "System" ... My Dear friend Brother EX ... is in fact predicated upon the social construct you call "WHITE" ...
why are millions of overweight Underemployed white folks waddling their big asses around Walmart sucking up GMO food and Pharmaceutical drugs ...
right next to millions of Non-White overweight Underemployed folks waddling their big asses around Walmart sucking up GMO food and Pharmaceutical drugs?
You see the difference Bra?
Or do you still think "DV full of shit! THE GLOBAL SYSTEM OF WHITE SUPREMACY IS EVERWHERRREEEEE!!! MUUHAHAUHHHHWWWWAAAAHHAA
lol ...
(scuse me. crack myself up sometime)
"And no brother, it was not a college educated Black guy trying to get a blue collar job. There you go again, trying to bolster your position by creating an absurd strawman scenario." Exo Men
Actually No, Ex. Not at all.
My point wasn't about college guy getting "blue collar job".
You misunderstood.
My point was designed to examine the flawed assumption of yours that failure of a black college graduate to get a job over a white felon is evidence of white advantage.
I submit that the failure of a black college graduate to get a job is evidence of devalued "college degrees".
"You got a degree DeVante?
Cool. So What?
Fuck your degree.
What can you do that I can pay you $50K and I can make $150K?" - Corporate America
That's nothing to do with mere "Whiteness".
That's corporatism.
That's facism.
"It proves that whiteness can be an advantage. It proves about as much as your picture of poor white people proves that there is no such thing as a whiteness advantage." EX Ment
Whiteness can be an advantage?
So what?
So can blackness.
Maybe we'll hook up one day, grab a drink and I'll show you.
Oh, and are you saying no Black man should ever have a job? You almost made me think you were a fool with that one. But this time I think you just stirring the pot cause you can." Ex Ment
No Negro.
I'm saying no Black man should ever EXPECT a job from white folks.
I'm saying no Black man should ever CONFUSE the fact that whites won't employ him as evidence of "White Supremacy".
"GSWS is a dynamic wherein the majority of the people who classify themselves as white participate in a global EFFORT to dominate and subjugate all persons who are classified as non-white."
Ex. Men.
Yes.
I get what you trying to say.
I'm trying to help you really look at what you are saying.
****If there is in fact a "Global Effort" of whites to dominate non whites *** and in the course of this domination **** 98% of the WHITES turned out to be DOMINATED TOO ***
is it really a Global System of "WHITE" Supremacy ....?
...
...
or is a little bit more specific than that?
"And that system has been effectively the dominant GLOBAL social reality for the past 20 centuries." Ex Men
Nahhhh Kunta Kinte.
You don't know your history.
"I further believe that this dynamic is based on a reaction formation to an obvious genetic recessive trait, skin with little or no pigment, that has over time developed into a group neurosis manifesting hostility and aggression." Ex Men
Ok
Ok.
Now you talking.
A little science. I can get with that.
But peep.
I submit
1) that this "aggressive dynamic" to which you refer is by no means exclusive to "WHITES".
Over the past 20 centuries "WHITES" held no monopoly on aggression, violence atrocity or mayhem.
Non Whites have done horrible things too.
2) Is this type of behavior genetic?
Yes.
But it is not dictated by race.
The food we eat changes our DNA.
The quantity of aggression and violence in the world can be charted as the human diet changed from natural and wild to unnatural and genetically modified.
Plantation Crackas & Plantation Negros eat the same genetically modified, insanity causing, factory food which causes aggression.
The "food" that comes out of a factory that kills and processes the dead bodies of 2 million birds a day ... is going to cause a little "aggressiveness" in both Whites and Non Whites alike.
Again Ex.
Your premise is too simple.
Ex, i'm certain that at some point, being labeled "white" gave white people certain privileges, but even then it wasn't very quantifiable exactly what those were, and how it made them any better off. For instance, a white man could very clearly point at a black man denied a place at a lunch counter and say, "I have it better than him. Thank God i'm white." But then, just because that black man could not eat there does not mean that the same poor white laborer is any closer to being able to afford a malt there his own damn self.
I think we are nearing a time where that era has faded, if not completely away, very nearly. Certainly those in power aren't working to rid the world of white privilege, such as it is, but they endlessly endeavor to maintain the illusion that it means as much to white folk as it once did. White is the carrot that the elite extend to the masses, only until such time as they need apply the stick. The real shell game, as it always has been, is haves versus have-nots. Do remember that it wasn't until the late 19th, early 20th century that Irish people were allowed to consider themselves white. Even later for Italians. When it became politically beneficial to assimilate these groups into the white matrix, then and only then was it done.
What's really going to be interesting is what happens when all these disenfranchised "white" groups realize how much their so-called privilege has eroded, by means of a sort of... racial inflation, let's call it. Heh, it takes a helluva lot more being "white" to get things than it did a few years ago.
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