The official Historical Narrative of the Plantation Negro begins when he was snatched from the jungles of Africa sold into bondage in America, slavery, miscegenation, Civil War, Emancipation, sharecropping, miscegenation, Jim Crow, working class, racism, Jackie Robinson, civil rights, integration, miscegenation, racism, middle class, college, The Global System of White Supremacy, Barack Obama.An Example of A Non-Plantation Negro Narrative:
Historical analysis of Pre-Columbian America reveals that the Western Hemisphere was not populated with "savages." Instead, thriving civilizations existed; the Incas and Aztecs of the southern half, and the mound cities which took generations, stretching over hundreds of years to build, in the northern half. The inhabitants had highly developed cultures. There was art, sculpture, astronomy, commerce, and trade all present.
In addition to this, according to historian J. A. Rogers: "Negroes lived in America thousands of years before Columbus. When Columbus came to the New World, Negroes had been crossing from Africa to South America, a distance of 1066 miles." As a matter of fact, the inhabitants told Columbus of Negro peoples who had come from the south and southeast.
The true story of the American Black Indian has been a forgotten one. Hidden deep in portals of time existing under the notion that it would never be uncovered and revealed, it went unknown for hundreds of years. The story of Black Indians would come forth every so often over the years, but only as bits and pieces of false information in order to hide the greater truth.
No, Black Indians are not solely a result of African slaves mixing with Red Indians as many other Black Indian sources would have you to believe. That is only a small portion of the legacy. Black Indians are indigenous to this land, before the so-called Red Man, before the Europeans, before the so-called Bering Strait. We, the Olmecs, Wa****aw, Moors, Yamasee, Mound Builders planted the seed of civilization in this country, America. Today, we are the remnants of these elders and it is time that we reveal the bigger picture, our true legacy, not as African slaves, not as immigrants, but as what we were, and what we are, Black Indians!
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[quote]Advanced Deconstruction of Plantation Negro History 1619 to Present [/quote]
What was done prior to 1619 that allowed the African to survive on his own for tens of thousands of years?
Shouldn't today's effort be centered upon understanding this and implementing the relevant consciousness today?
"What was done prior to 1619 that allowed the African to survive on his own for tens of thousands of years?"
Moorish science.
Even when you dropping good knowledge you prove my point about GSWS (and your complete and total misunderstanding of it). Nobody ever said it was here from the beginning of time, so you are being dishonest when you pretend that people who acknowledge that GSWS exists are devoid of historical context or Knowledge. But it's here now and it's the answer to CF's question, and the reason why there is even a debate over what the true history really is.
CF, perhaps you should consider that the way forward is not necessarily to look back and try to duplicate systems that were incapable of combating or even surviving in the face of what has become the preeminent global dynamic. Once the GSWS became the dominant social construct (displacing the things that had existed and flourished before that), the old ways of thinking became worthless. Not that there aren't things to be learned from the past, but the future is not going to be what life on earth was 600, or 6000 years ago. Hoping things stay the same in the midst of overwhelming evidence that all things must change, is tantamount to suicide.
@ EM - Is a GSWS really flourishing today or are we suffering from it's implementation?
UBJ, GSWS is still there, wouldn't say flourishing because it's on the decline, but it's still struggling to maintain function and purpose, yet more vulnerable than ever to being overcome by the enlightenment of a few more Brothers and Sisters. Unfortunately, you can't fight what you don't recognize or understand, so we still have to deal with that before we deal with replacing something destructive with something empowering.
I've read your post twice Ex.
What you say doesn't ring true with me.
"Once the GSWS became the dominant social construct (displacing the things that had existed and flourished before that), the old ways of thinking became worthless." EM
1) How can science, cosmology, nutrition and law ever be worthless?
2) If "The Global System of White Supremacy" disappeared today ... what would be different in the world tomorrow?
HOW WOULD WE KNOW IT WAS GONE?
I ask Ex ... because in all of these years and the hundreds of posts that Mike Fisher championed GSWS ... No one has ever answered that question.
Which is why I believe the "Global System of White Supremacy" is an intellectual construct which exists mainly in the heads of some non-whites.
A race based supremacy paradigm is their comfort zone.
Look at the reactions of some of the Negros here to brothers examining evidence of historical black supremacy.
They don't want to believe it. They are scared to consider it. They are much more comfortable anointing whites as the arbiters of science and truth.
Yes. If a "Global System of White Supremacy" exists ... it is a psychological construct projected from the minds of Negros invested in the Plantation.
3) Are some white people also the victims of "A Global System of White Supremacy"?
How many?
What percentage?
Can a system that victimizes whites just as much as it victimizes non-whites really be called a system of "White supremacy"?
"They don't want to believe it. They are scared to consider it. They are much more comfortable anointing whites as the arbiters of science and truth."
Absolutely DV!!! Often passed off in some form of pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo, all the time ever co-signing the GSWS's historical data.
Feel me E?
Yes. Always some mumbo jumbo mandated by the Thought Police.
Were one ever to stop and examine the fundamental assumptions of the official Plantation Negro Narrative ... one will see that these "skeptics" ... haven't bothered to "verify" that shit either.
Yet, they are ready to shout down a young researcher who challenges the very Plantation paradigm they claim oppresses them.
Why?
Because they have allowed the Plantation to DEFINE them.
Asking them to consider the possibility they are not simply Kunta Kinte is like asking them to consider the possibility they are not black.
They were taught Black WAS Kunta Kinte.
That meme was carefully spoon fed by the Plantation and packaged as "liberation theology".
You could show Plantation Negros photos of Olmecs playing basketball in what is now North Carolina that date back to 875 AD ... and cats would still be calling the brothers trying to hip them to themselves ... "Charlatans!".
[quote]CF, perhaps you should consider that the way forward is not necessarily to look back and try to duplicate systems that were incapable of combating or even surviving in the face of what has become the preeminent global dynamic. [/quote]
EM:
Notice that I said CONSCIOUSNESS.
There is no doubt that TECHNOLOGY changes over time.
The fundamental requirements never change:
*Order your people for them to obtain their maximum use of their intellect, productivity and peace
* Have the means of DEFENDING yourself from external molestation
* Have a means to transmit your cultural norms into the next generation
No such thing as a Global System of White Supremacy, it is a Global System of Capitalist Hegemony which uses race or class as it's operant devices. Yes, to some the insitution of Whiteness or Patriarchy works to their advantage because race or gender is used as tools of capitalism and power.
However, the System of Hegemony acting over the fate of a Black family losing their house in Texas because of a sub-prime mortgage is no different to a Greek lecturer's family losing it all because the University of Athens has shut down because of the economic crisis and the anarchists.
British firms buying up farm land in the Ukraine to feed the British populus is motivated by the same greed/need for consumption in buying up land for cheap in Ethiopia.
I appreciate that at least there is a tone of sincere inquiry, rather than simple misplaced angst. So let me try to address each issue raised.
1. I perhaps misspoke when I said "worthless". In fact most of the progress in all areas of science can be traced directly back to the foundations of knowledge from Kemet forward. Their relative "worth" to us is reflected in how we are able to utilize that knowledge to position a people to flourish in their current circumstance. To that end, the fact that the dominant system has rendered us unable to use the science to our collective benefit makes it not worthless, but at least far less useful to us. It does not invalidate the science, and I didn't intend to give that impression.
2. What would be different if it's gone? Everything. Far to much to pretend to make a list here. A couple of things that should be pointed out. GSWS could be supplanted by plutocracy or something else that would be almost as destructive. So even if we manage to understand and combat GSWS, there's no guarantee that the end reult would immediately cause a 180 degree shift away from the current status quo. GSWS didn't all of a sudden explode on the scene as the dominant worldwide dynamic. It certainly won't be overcome in an instant either.
2a. How would you know? That's a more difficult question. If you've convinced yourself that it never existed, there wouldn't be any way to convince you that something you never believed in was gone. You certainly couldn't expect that all of a sudden all the psychological shackles that have been in place will suddenly disappear for all people.
IMO, Mike Fisher wasn't interested in addressing these questions because perhaps he thought the answers, absent a mutually agreed upon framework, would not lead to any understanding. The very questions themselves are indicative of a fundamental misunderstanding of the dynamic of GSWS. As are statements like "the "Global System of White Supremacy" is an intellectual construct which exists mainly in the heads of some non-whites", "it is a psychological construct projected from the minds of Negros invested in the Plantation", and especially "Are some white people also the victims of "A Global System of White Supremacy"?".
In fact, I was not able to grasp the concept of GSWS until I was exposed to the factual and actual history of our people as the cradle of all civilization. Like almost everyone who is socialized and educated under this dynamic, I was denied access to the true history of our people (even though I was given supposedly the best possible education for a young Black person growing up in the Black Mecca of the South, Atlanta). Only when I was exposed to the truth about us, was I even able to contemplate the truth about GSWS.
Another of your constant fallacies is that you seem categorically unable to allow that people who have a proper understanding of the GSWS (as expounded by scholars like Dr. Welsing and Neely Fuller) could not possibly be invested in the plantation. I defy you to find one instance in any of the volumes of communication between us where I have made even a slight reference to or cosigned any inaccurate historical data. You are the consummate researcher, examine the record. Show me one time that I even insinuated that I was invested in the plantation or supported their inaccuracies as truth.
In fact we may be the only ones who are making any attempt to deconstruct and destroy the plantation at a foundational level. So people who, like the Boondocks Uncle Ruckus, have been brainwashed into believing that all things white are all things Right, are not postulating a GSWS, they are simply affirming their own imposed psychological conditioning. They have been told they are less, and they have come to believe it. As a person who understands the GSWS, I understand and believe the exact opposite; that the current paradigm is directly related to an easily identifiable genetic recessive in so-called whites. For you to continue to misconstrue the difference in those two mindsets is at best lazy, at worst you are being intentionally intellectually dishonest.
3. So to your final question, are whites victims? They are indeed, but not in the way you are thinking. They are victims because having bought into the dynamic as a survival mechanism, they are locked into a paradigm that is ultimately self destructive. It promotes stress and strife where none need exist. It gives them an undeserved and misdirected sense of self worth through artificial elevation of their group over others. It makes cooperative advancement of the human species, the thing which should be our prime directive, less than an afterthought as we continue in pointless internecine conflict.
It's long and ultimately probably still less than needed, but there it is.
KonWoman, the "capitlaists" are not now, nor were they ever, the only operating economic system that has operated to the direct and/or indirect disadvantage of people of color around the world. If you are older than 30 you lived thorough anera where "capitalism" and "communism" were vitually equal competitors for global hegemony. Both of these operated at a base level to exercise their power over the non-white populations that they encountered. The fact that not all people classified as white were direct beneficiaries of the economic power system is totally irrelevant. The fact that all people classified as "non-white" were direct and indirect targets for the oppressive power of both systems speaks volumes to identifying what was the true foundational directive.
I would not begin to sit here and pretend that these economic systems do not exist. In fact I publicly recognize them as tools used in one area of people activity (economics) that facilitate the opeartion of the GSWS. I find it interesting that you (and not only you) find it so very easy to completely dismiss something (GSWS) that you patently do not understand. Have you studied anything at all that speaks directly to the existence and operation of the GSWS? I sincerely doubt it. If I am wrong, please correct me and direct me to your sources; sources that specifically discuss the dynamic of white supremacy, and the idea of white genetic survival as a basis for a group psychosis. The majority of "scholarly" writing on the concept of "race" and "racial" conflict is utterly devoid of anything even vaguely approximating rational thought process.
I maintain that the only GLOBALLY operating power dynamic that can be readily identified and has been continuously in place for centuries, is the dynamic of people who classify themselves as white exercising power, oppressive control, and genocidal tendencies, across all areas of people activities, over people who are classified as non-white.
I challenge you or anyone to identify another system that has those characteristics. Not just the particular power structure of the moment, but an ongoing and physically evident pattern over an extended course of time.
Exodus Mentality said...
1. "I perhaps misspoke when I said "worthless". In fact most of the progress in all areas of science can be traced directly back to the foundations of knowledge from Kemet forward. " EM
Debatable.
There are researchers and scholars who believe civilization builders did their thing Lonnnnnng before Kemet. There are researchers who believe these civilizations founded Kemet among other great civilizations.
"Their relative "worth" to us is reflected in how we are able to utilize that knowledge to position a people to flourish in their current circumstance. To that end, the fact that the dominant system has rendered us unable to use the science to our collective benefit makes it not worthless, but at least far less useful to us." EM
Au Contrare Mon Frere
The Global System of White Supremacy" cannot make black people eat DNA damaging cancer causing hybrid foods.
"It does not invalidate the science, and I didn't intend to give that impression." EM
Cool
"2. What would be different if it's gone? Everything. Far to much to pretend to make a list here." EW
Respectfully Brother Exodus ...
'Everything. Far to much to pretend to make a list here.'
Doesn't help our conversation here.
Please list 1 thing that would be different:
________________________ ?
"2a. If you've convinced yourself that it never existed, there wouldn't be any way to convince you that something you never believed in was gone." Exodus Mentality
Mmmmmmm ... Ex
Let's think about that Bra.
Couldn't that game be played both ways?
For Example:
'If you've convinced yourself that it did exist, there wouldn't be any way to convince you that something you believed was there wasn't there'.
CF, I don't intend to offend, but even your idea of a "consciousness" that can or should survive and direct since the earliest functional human society seems flawed. Case in point, having the same cultural norms in the face of changing and developing cultures and societies to me seems a recipe for disaster. Some cultural norms should not survive and blindly sticking to what has always been done, simply because it's always been done that way.
Dv is determined to be a black indian... a moor.. OK, you are a black indian!
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