Wednesday, December 09, 2009

My Definition of A Brotha


With 10,000 more of these cats, instead of conformist Plantation Negros, Black folks would be the most powerful people on the planet in 15 years.

46 comments:

CNu said...

and sacrifice their Blackness in the process...,

it took far fewer than 10,000 afro-saxons like Marlo (aided and abetted by outside wholesalers, producers and distributors) to destroy MUCH human and cultural potential in post-colonial Africa.

get thee behind me Lucifer.

Denmark Vesey said...

Now now Tyrone Malthus ...

What Anglo Saxons you know could walk in the shoes of Marlo Stansfield?

Nah ... It was the African version of Plantation Negros didn't step up and protect the motherland.

CNu said...

read s.l.o.w.l.y beelzebub...,

AFRO-saxons have aided and abetted the ravishment of the continent as surely as afro-saxons have aided and abetted the ravishment of hoods here in America.

10,000 of these locusts doesn't a single, well-organized, communitarian, la cosa nostra make.

The character of Marlo no more exemplifies leadership of a sustainable organized criminal enterprise than Badu exemplifies long-term marriage material.

Rather, he's just another in a very long line of maturationally suspended socio/psychopathic characters pillaging and slaughtering his way through to a transitory payday, costs and consequences be damned.

sheeeeeeiiiiiittt.....,

Stepping back from the fictional character to the makers of the fiction itself.

The packagers and distributors of this particular product ain't about to promulgate a popular blueprint for a contemporary, sustainable, and communitarian organized "criminal" enterprise.

To even pretend that such a thing would or could emanate from such sources is patently ridiculous on the face of it.

epic FAIL brah...,

Denmark Vesey said...

Put down the Matrix and Godfather DVDs nerd. Life aint a movie.

Who in the fuck is trying to duplicate "La cosa nostra"?

We need men with the spirit of Marlo Stansfield to practice medicine. Unlike the current crop of Plantation MD's slanging drugs for Pharmaceutical companies.

We need men with the spirit of Marlo Stansfield to reject GMO poison currently fed to our people and to grow organic food.

We need men with the spirit of Marlo Stansfield to help other black people realize that the Malthusian / Masonic abortion apparatus is as much a tool of genocide as were the slave ships.

We need men with the spirit of Marlo Stansfield to teach other black people not to allow sterilizing agents and toxic cancer causing Monkey Viruses to be injected into the veins of their children.

The spirit of Marlo Stansfield transcends this little character you are watching on YouTube.

Marlo Stansfield screams "Fuck The Plantation" ... without saying a word.

Casper said...

DV
"We need men with the spirit of Marlo Stansfield to reject GMO poison currently fed to our people and to grow organic food."

What we need vs. what we get. The actor Jamie Hector actually attended college and currently mentors children. But yet he portrays & perpetualates a life that contradicts the tenents you so artfully described.

Instead:
Marlo is a young, ruthless and ambitious player in the Baltimore drug trade who gains control of West Baltimore and is the head of his own drug crew.

CNu said...

That's funny Azazel.

though you pretend to be screaming "Fuck the Plantation" errday...,

I can think of only one crew working harder to promote the Plantation's staple crop(s)...,

KonWomyn said...

DV,

Why you getting things twisted lately?

The Tiger/sista thing, video chic and now this? C'mon DV, Marlo Stansfield cares diddley squat for the health of Black folks. Just analyse this scene alone and ask y'self why 90% of those cats around the table are XXL? Because it's subversively reinforcing a stereotype while simultaneously playing to the glorified image of gangsters and thugs as a Big Man.

Sure, Marlo and his XXL boys control money, guns, sex and drugs whereas the XXL appetite knows no bounds. They are no more a slave to plantation food than the next fat dude hurrying off to Burger King for lunch.

Nah magne, these cats eat and live off of the Plantation, why would they wanna tell people Get Healthy. Get healthy means get off the pipe. The kinda forward thinking militants you need to put as y'poster boys are Dead Prez.

Sure Marlo's a baaad cat on the screen but everyday Marlos are yet another assasin of the Black nation.

IWonderAsIWander said...

We just need more brothers who believe in themselves. That was Marlo's primary asset - he truly believed he was better, stronger, smarter than all of the other cats. Dude was 5'6" and had cats 6'6" takin' orders.

Big Man said...

Cnu is pissed.

This is a good thing.

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL ... That's funny Kay Duub.

But don't let them Haters get ya twisted.

They, and apparently you, still don't understand the "Tiger/sista thing, or the video chic".

This is not a commentary about what "Marlo Stansfield cares about".

Marlo Stansfield is effective.

Marlo Stansfield is uninterested in consensus.

Marlo Stansfield makes shit happen.

Marlo Stansfield is playing chess while the Plantation Negros play checkers.

If I put a video of Vito Corleone up ... these same Plantation Negros would have sudden spike in imagination ... and see the 'Godfather's virtues'. They would wax poetic about 'family saga'. They wouldn't see just a gangster and a murderer.

I submit that their inability to imagine anything beyond the surface when it's a black actor interpreting a role is the result of an ingrained reluctance to believe black men can ever express anything they don't immediately understand.

[Peep the sidebar: Beware The Tyranny of The Mediocre.]

Notice the same Plantation Negros hate Hip Hop.

They say stupid shit like: "All Fiddy rap about is ..." or "All Hip Hop is about guns n sex..."

As if black men don't use metaphor.

Denmark Vesey said...

IWonderAsIWander said...

"We just need more brothers who believe in themselves."

Ahhhhh ... Now you talkin' Cuz.

You were overdue to say summin' profound.

;-}

Michael Fisher said...

Marlo Stansfield is a f***ing fictional character, Dummy.

Denmark Vesey said...

Yup.

And 1 Fictional Marlo Stansfield is more relevant than 100 real Michael Fishers.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"And 1 Fictional Marlo Stansfield is more relevant than 100 real Michael Fishers."

My, my. Says who? A vacuous fool who can't tell the difference between drivel and drivel? Like "Kantian impulse" vs "Hegelian headfake"?

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Denmark Vesey said...

Who says so?

You say so "Mike".

Come on man. You know you are not particularly relevant.

That's why you come here everyday. Bitter and with your lips poked out.

Thordaddy said...

But that ain't half a bad as not being able to tell the diffference between Mike Fisher and Mike Fisher... Lol!

The black man WHO ain't black, the anti-capitalist.

CNu said...

Cnu is pissed.

nah Big Man.

you know I loves me some DeVil like Bundini Brown loved him some Ali.

Lately, however, them Hegelian headfakes of his haven't saved him from some heavy, heavy blows to the dome.

I'm just trying to gently do my part to get him back on track before he goes out like one of his permanently punch drunk pet peasants....,

KonWomyn said...

DV
Recognising the Marlos of the world; doesn't make what he does ok in the same way praising the Mafia ain't rite. That's like saying the Black-owned liquor store is paradise for Brooklyn's community while an Arab-owned liqour store is not. Both kill.

Maybe your aim is to get a conversation going abt why Godfather gets more props. If making such bold assertions abt 10 000 Marlos is your aim to get tongues wagging then that's all good, but pitting Black v White in the way you did seems to me you're playing the race game for your own ends. Italian gangsters murder whereas Black gangsters do what? *Recall White models/'whores' in underwear v Big Booty 'Black girl with soul' sliding down the pole.

You're a funny cat, DV.

But anyway I submit(!) M1 of Dead Prez or one member of the FOI or Muslims Girls Training would be far more effective than 10 000 Marlos and Nicki Minajs. Easy.

Denmark Vesey said...

"CNu is pissed"?

That don't even sound right.

The capacity to misinterpret appears infinite.

LOL. But don't front CNu. This school for you too.

How you going to let your analysis stop at second base with the proletariat?

I know you personally blame Thordaddy for the TransAtlantic slave trade and all ... but I can't front like the man don't drop some jewels from time to time.

KonWomyn said...

CNu
You post the funniest links, where do you find this stuff - ROFL!

Michael Fisher said...
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Michael Fisher said...

"DV", it ain't about relevancy, it's about vacuity. I've recommended to you to finally crack open a book or two for many moons now. Something on history, biology, philosophy - Hegel even. If you had, you wouldn't have fallen for a simple parlor trick in the tradition of Oswald Bates.

Fact is, fabricate a text, throw in something that soothes your ego, add a little bit of homophobia, package it all in unintelligible balderdash and, lo and behold, whatever may be in that hollow dome of yours thinks it's a work of genius.

The problem is, "DV", you are not only a profoundly ignorant person, but intellectually lazy. Note that I haven't called you stupid. Because you're not. You're just hollow. There are no fact, figures, concepts, or anything in that head of yours that are either challenging or halfway original. You could remedy that though: CRACK A BOOK

Denmark Vesey said...

Kaaaaaay Duuuuuuub ...

Sista I'm plannin' another DV.Net get together at the crib. It's been over a year. We going have to fly you across the pond to make this one.

But come on now. I thought you knew me better than this.

Fuuug a conversation for the sake of conversation. That aint my style. I create memes.

Now you don't have to agree with them. Right Big Man? Just create your own and see how they hold up.

But let me try one more time.

Marlo Stansfield is art.

There is a spiritual component to that art which is an endangered commodity among black men today.

Celebrating Marlo Stansfield is a celebration of a particular spirit which that character represents.

Just as 90% of the people who experience Picasso's "Guernica" don't really get it and 90% of the people who experience Miles' "Teo" nod their heads but don't really get it ... 90% of muhfuggas who would happen to view this clip, don't feel the art that is Marlo Stansfield.

Because the character is black young and of the streets ... most Plantation Negros are loathe to admit their is ANYTHING they don't possibly "get".

I consider that a sort of self-imposed racism. (Remember what Garvey said: "Most of the trouble I have had in advancing the cause of the race has come from Negroes.")

I submit old out of touch ass Mike Fisher's vitriolic opposition as an example.

Denmark Vesey said...

Yeah.

I hear ya Mike.

But I'm smart enough not to get stabbed by my wife.

Why don't you crack a book called: "HOW NOT NOT TO GET STABBED BY YOUR OWN WIFE".

Try Amazon.com

Thordaddy said...

Mike,

You're like the azzhole callin' the butthole, "black." Dood, you're an atheist. That's hella vacuous.

Michael Fisher said...

"DV", I didn't say you're not smart. I said you're ignorant. There's a difference.

Kimberly said...

ROFLMAO! DV you are too much! I'm over here screaming

Michael Fisher said...

"DV"...

"I submit old out of touch ass Mike Fisher's vitriolic opposition as an example."

Like I said, "DV". Marlo Stansfield is a fictional character invented by a one of these Jewish folks you loath so much to boot. If you wanna worship Marlo Stansfield, you might as well put an altar up to the tooth fairy.

What's that "DV"? Yes, the tooth fairy does not really exist. Sorry to blow your bubble.

Big Man said...

DV

Sho nuff. You are a master of the meme

Got to give Cnu props for hipping a brotha to the purpose of the site. And you of course of explaining your aims succintly to The Gray Conservative on one old thread.

I thought it was about discovering a solution or something of that ilk when I first came through. You know, shake up the masses, get their brains working, hopefully spark something meaningful.

But, as you explained, you ain't particularly interested in that. You ain't trying to save Plantation Negroes, you're lauging at them wallowing in their ignorance. This is entertainment for you. A good way to see what ideas you can advance, and how creatively you can present them.

Once I peeped that, I decided it was cool to enjoy the show. Nice pics, interesting point of views, nothing too serious. We ain't sparking change, we just shooting the breeze like it's the barber shop on the block.

Other cats trying to make you adhere to "standards." Pure folly. Enjoy the show, and when you get tired, change the channel. It's the internet, you can always find something else to pay attention to.

Denmark Vesey said...

Big Man! HU!

But feel me Bra. 'Not trying to save the masses' is not a statement of contempt. It is a statement of respect.

Preaching is a form of masturbation.

The Plantation has confined our people with memes.

We need to learn how to manufacture and distribute memes that move people.

Whether they "get it" or not is immaterial.

Thordaddy said...

Perhaps you had this in mind, DV?

KonWomyn said...

DV,
Ahh that'd be so cool. If I can I wld love come ova and meet some of these peops in person. It'd prob be a laugh a minute. Keep me posted.

DV said:

"Celebrating Marlo Stansfield is a celebration of a particular spirit which that character represents."

Aight. This much I'm feeling, everything else...talk.

I'm killing myself here @ this:

"Preaching is a form of masturbation"

Never thot abt it like that but it's true.

CNu said...

The Plantation has confined our people with memes.

We need to learn how to manufacture and distribute memes that move people.


rumble young man rumble....,

Casper said...

DV
"Marlo Stansfield is effective.
Marlo Stansfield is uninterested in consensus.
Marlo Stansfield makes shit happen.
Marlo Stansfield is playing chess while the Plantation Negros play checkers."

So was O.J. Simpson!

Casper said...

DV
"Marlo Stansfield is art"

Art is suppose to be original!

makheru bradley said...

With 10,000 more of these cats, instead of conformist Plantation Negros, Black folks would be the most powerful people on the planet in 15 years. -- DV

We've already had 10K of these cats. The Prison Industrial Complex and the Undertakers have the profits to prove it.

Denmark Vesey said...

Naaaaaaah Mak.

Look a little closer bra.

makheru bradley said...

To paraphrase Nina Simone-- Chicago Goddamn!

12-year-old girl murdered

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/07/12-year-old-girl-murdered/

Big Man said...

Casper

You are really quite wrong about O.J. Simpson.

Ralph Wiley wrote several interesting pieces about The Juice that showed that he was the ultimate Get Along Negro.

The character of Marlo might not be everything DV thinks he was, but he wasn't a Get Along Negro. Not by a longshot.

Casper said...

@BigMan

O.J. was effective as a footballer and business man.
O.J. was uninterested in consensus about marrying a white woman then killing her.
O.J. made shit happen as a footballer and icon black male pitchman in his day.
O.J. was playing chess in business and sports. And got off on his murder case.

And at the end of O.J.'s and Marlo's day was a cold cell. Thus the moral of that story is what?

And if you know the game of drugs. Marlo would have to be the Get Along Negro to the Colombians, Russians or Mexicans to get his supply in the fiction & non fiction world.

Big Man said...

Casper

Your characterization of OJ is lacking.

If OJ was a successful businessman he wouldn't have seen himself become destitute once his murder arrest removed his income as a pitchman and broadcaster. Hell, if he was that successful, he wouldn't have gone broke hiring Johnnie Cochran.

Jay Z and Puffy are successful businessman, O.J. was a parasite allowed to flourish by white benefactors, who tolerated his forays into trailer trash, and only turned on him once his beatings turned into murder.

To call O.J. uninterested in consensus can only mean that you decided against Googling Ralph Wiley and O.J. Simpson. Here is a link to one revealing piece.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/wiley/021113.html

Money quote for you, from a man who covered O.J. extensively.

"The documentary's most honest trait is its brevity -- some 49 minutes in length. Why? Because, when you get down to to it, at the center of O.J. Simpson, there was nothing there. Nada. If ever there was not only a colorless but soulless man, it was him."

Or this one:

"But not to white people, especially the captains of industry Juice performed for. His off-screen antics made Stepin Fetchit look like Frederick Douglass.


No, we were all the difficult ones. We were the ones who didn't understand how to be, how to go along to get along. If a black man is grinning all the time, being obsequious, that is seen as some kind of righteousness; meanwhile, those seeing it that way never seem to understand that no person can live a life of mental duplicity for very long without something beginning to slip upstairs."


I'm not trying to bust your balls for no reason, I'm pointing out that your perspective on O.J. is obviously skewed.

O.J. didn't play "chess" in his life or in business. That ninja wasn't even playing checkers.

He was getting played. Sold his soul for cheap.

Casper said...

Big Man
If OJ was a successful businessman he wouldn't have seen himself become destitute once his murder arrest removed his income as a pitchman and broadcaster. Hell, if he was that successful, he wouldn't have gone broke hiring Johnnie Cochran.

My man O.J. was still roaming the golf courses... Wilding out at bars/clubs.. and dating young white women after the trial. O.J. still had money from his NFL pension so don't get it twisted... and a house in Florida because Florida law protects homes from civil judgement.

And characters like Marlo are parasites allowed to flourish by white benefactors.. No?

Marlo is like CVS for Pfizer.. No?

Big Man said...

Casper

No doubt on Marlo.

While I watched the show and found Marlo to be an interesting and at times amazing character, his lifestyle wasn't the model for anything I'd want my children to aspire to.

Marlo was a thug, who made a living selling people drugs. And killing folks.

But, as DV will surely note, Marlo was also tough-minded, take charge, ruthless, loyal and calculating. Small doses of some of those traits can make you hugely successful, while still being a good person.

Large doses turn you into a monster. You are trying to say that there is nothing good about Marlo. That's a mistake. DV is trying to gloss over the negative to accentuate the positive. The only reason I won't call that a mistake is because DV purposely does it to advance certain propaganda. He knows exactly what he's doing.

T.A.N. Man said...

Better late than never...

Marlo was not art. Marlo was a snake--no soul, no heart, just ambition. In fact, he was a plantation negro just like most other folks in the streets. Why, because in the end he fell for the 42 fake out. His lawyer sold him a pipe dream that the deal on the table was the best anyone could get him. But it wasn't. The writer/producers/directors wouldn't let him beat the system and die with honor--given the craft he chose--in the streets like a G; a victim of the same cycle he perpetuated.

Instead he lost he crown on the old hidden ball trick and was left--like to previously mentioned punched out boxer, starting way riskier than rewarding fights on the corner with little cats Chris or ole girl would have extinguished at his command during his hayday, just to see if he still had it ... just to feel the thrill of victory one more time. Why, cause in the end, he only had one skill and the man took it from him. Not the po-po who he kept at bay, but the only man he slipped up and trusted. It's funny you missed that portion of the final season DV--uncharacteristic to say the least.

It's been raised already, but how can a character created by the system, be the posterboy for anti-plantation Negroes? Why would the man make the character you're hyping Marlo to be.

Denmark Vesey said...

Good stuff TAN Man. Good stuff.

A thinking brotha. Finally.

Now.

The writer / producers / directors set the stage ... Jamie Hector the actor took it from there.

Much the way Francis Ford Coppola set the stage with Michael Corleone ... and Al Pacino took it from there.

What Jamie Hector brought to that role was something we haven't seen in on screen from a black actor since Denzel in Soldier Story.

Authority.

Command.

No restrictions.

No bars.

No mental slavery.

No Limit.

He defined himself.

He knew what he wanted and went for it.

He was no Affirmative Action punk.

He didn't bitch about a Global System of White Supremacy.

Was he perfect? Of course not.

But in this era of scared ass punkish weak, dress wearing de facto homo black characters - Marlo Stansfield is king.