Submariner said...I've prescribed the morning after pill and Methotrexate. Therefore I hate babies and deserve to get shot? Certainly the number of lives cut short by your favorite rap heroes participation in drug trafficking numbers in the thousands.
Denmark Vesey said ...
Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 250,000 People Every Year
An Institute of Medicine report was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) The author is Dr. Barbara Starfield of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health. Her report says the American medical system experiences 250,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes.
IATROGENIC is a big word meaning a disorder or death caused by medical personnel or procedures taken place in a medical facility. Iatros means physician and genein means to produce. In other words it means Death by Dr.
Deaths By Dr.
12,000 - unnecessary surgery
7,000 - medication errors in hospitals
20,000 - other errors in hospitals
80,000 - infections in hospitals
106,000 - non-error, negative effects of drugs
These total to 250,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes (Death by Dr.).
Less than 5,000 cocaine related deaths have ever been reported in the US.
0 people have ever died because of ingesting marijuana.
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Thanks for citing the stats DV. Submariner, I can understand you being a doctor having to perform certain questionable procedures. But your deflection of your actions onto thugs is somewhat disingenuous. If you have no shame for what you have prescribed etc then there shouldn't be a need to go there.
Besides that, the act of drug trafficking is exclusive from actively performing abortions. Come on.
It is comical to see a M.D. get self-righteous about drug-trafficking when the medical profession is the biggest drug dealing syndicate of them all.
A while back, I read an article about today's teenagers being strung out on the contents of their parents' pill bottles more so than by an occasional joint.
It's criminal when a kid smokes a joint, but it's "healthcare" when he's strung out on Ridalin. GTFOOH.
Oh please. Just this week I had a three year old kid brought in dead on arrival after mom found her unresponsive when she awakened mid-afternoon from her drug induced stupor. And drug addicts use more medical and social services than would be the case if they were sober.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Look at the background of every school shooter and they were all doped up on some sort of antidepressant or other doctor-facilitated drug addiction.
0 people have ever died because of ingesting marijuana.
Bullshit! you don't know how many people have died or have been killed via weed induced DWIs. You don't know how many people may have died from lung cancer or other respiratory diseases from smoking weed.
Less than 5,000 cocaine related deaths have ever been reported in the US.
Does this include the annual deaths from cocaine induced diabetes and cocaine induced strokes?
"Bullshit! you don't know how many people have died or have been killed via weed induced DWIs." Anonymous
LOL.
Betcha it's 1/10 of 1% of "prescription drug" related DWI's.
"Does this include the annual deaths from cocaine induced diabetes " Anonymous
LOL.
Betcha it's 1/100 of 1% of corn sugar related diabetes.
Betcha it's 1/10 of 1% of prescription drug related deaths.
Anonymous, if you are going to return with this silly minded outrage - get a nickname.
I like to know to which fool I'm speaking.
DV
Are you counting the narcotics related violence in your assessment of the impact of drug dealers?
Or, the collapse of many families and the erosion of moreal values because of drugs?
I mean, I get the point that doctors are not blameless saints, but you're purposely refusing to see the large role illegal narcotics play in ruining lives.
Sure, that's partially due to the fact that we've randomly decided that certain substances are illegal and others are legal, but it doesn't change the fact that drugs and drug dealers are not helping their communities. Much like casinos, they feed on the vices of people, and any money they generate comes from sucking away at people's lifeblood.
Doctor's are not perfect and many of them are self-serving a-holes, but insinuating that drug dealers compare favorably to them is a bit much.
I mean, I get the point that doctors are not blameless saints, but you're purposely refusing to see the large role illegal narcotics play in ruining lives.
If the narcotics were legal, pure, and inexpensive, I think it would become infinitely clearer that it's the ILLEGALITY that's chiefly to blame for ruining lives, rather than the recreational substances themselves.
Cnu
I agree that the damage would be less, but it would still exist.
I'm not convinced you can be a good parent and be a junkie. I'm not convinced that junkies will work in honest jobs to support their habits, even if the costs of narcotics are greatly reduced.
All we have to do is look at the way alcohol and prescription drugs affect our society. Both substances are legal, and both of them are causing real problems.
Big Man,
The very concept of a junkie is rooted in the black market economics forced by the prohibition.
All of the hard drugs in question could be furnished at a modest profit to all the hardcore addicts for less than a couple pennies/day.
Once these folks solved their respective individual neurotransmitter deficiencies absent any legal stigma or economic hardship, I suspect they would prove to be perfectly functional people...,
DV, why always resort to insults when someone disagrees with you? Is that your only form of defense for the questionable assertions you paste on here?
Why don't you put your health care needs in the hands of a cocaine druggie, I'm sure you will be assured of a very long healthy life!
Talk about comparing apples to oranges!
"DV, why always resort to insults when someone disagrees with you?"
Because I think men who post as "Anonymous" are bitches.
^ True.
My citation of drug dealers was a rhetorical error and merely intended to point out the lunacy of making Dr. Tiller's murder a logical and moral outcome of his medical practice. (And I have a problem with the sixty thousand figure cited. Intuitively it strikes me as highly unlikely even over the course of forty years. Most likely it's an arbitrary number used for political reasons.)
I prescribe abortifacients without any compunction. If someone wants to shoot me for doing so then they are the problem and not me.
Abortifacients have been known throughout recorded human history. It's only in the last several generations that abortion has become a political issue.
I agree with Insurgent's assessment about the pharmacological manipulation of society and think it's overly and inappropriately done. It's one reason that I don't belong to any professional advocacy organizations like the AMA or ACEP.
Medicine, in my opinion, is still the most noble profession rivaled only by teachers. I'm amazed when people stop me in a restaurant or send me a thank you card for helping them or a loved one.
what slays me Sub - is how all these "gut feel" throwbacks, and most especially the moronic ones who posted "Tiller the Baby Killer" garbage - believe that their cargo cultist obsession with this issue merits serious consideration in contradistinction to scripture, tradition, law, science, and established medical practice.
infantile and mentally deranged morons acting out on murderous impulses don't deserve serious consideration. instead, they deserve to be dispatched as quickly and harshly as possible under the existing terms of the law - inclusive of "prolonged detention".
that they even have the audacity to attack ANYBODY else as part and parcel of their post hoc rationalization of a terrorist assassination - shows the magnitude of the existential divide separating them from civil society.
submariner you are still deflecting. i haven't seen anybody here suggest that killing doctor tiller was justified. and so what if he killed twenty thousand babies rather than sixty thousand, does that take away from the evils he comitted.
you prescribe abortofacients and say they've been around for centuries. Sure they have just like prostitution has been around for centuries. That doesn't make it right. and you and others are wrong about abortion history and it being only a recent issue. this issue has been around for thousand of years and there have always been vocal opponents to its practice. in the usa, history shows that in the mid 1800's there was a growing anti abortion movement among first wave feminists.
despite all of this, i fail to understand how you can presecribe that stuff to a person with good conscience. and i wonder if you totally comfortable doing it or if in the recesses in your mind you feel uncomfortable.
after all, if you were totally comfortable with your actions you wouldn't see a need to deflect the debate to something unrelated.
... in contradistinction to scripture, tradition, law, science, and established medical practice.
Need I mention the old defenses of Negro slavery by appeal to scripture, tradition, law... even science?
I know what you mean Mahndisa.
Have you noticed the impulse to project motive and apply argument to those of us who dare express reservation about the abortion cult that exists in this country?
In the midst of CNu's foam mouthed outrage I find myself wondering .. "who the fuck is this cat talkin' too?"
"I aint shoot no abortion doctor. I didn't have a damn thing with the people that did. I don't know what they believe, or why. I just know what I believe and why I believe it.
Damn ... gotta watch these secular fanatics. Armed with autonomous self-righteousness they are capable of justifying anything." (what up Thor)
Eventually. They start thinking they are qualified to determine when a human being has a soul. Not God.
Aint that a bitch? Man, determines when a human being has a soul.
Ask CNu. He knows because he read it in a book. Somebody said it who managed to get published. That makes it the embodiment of Truth.
No gut knowledge for this cat. No instincts. No inner compass. Only machine knowledge has merit. What you experience is invalid. What you witness is worthless. What you can see in front of your face is to be viewed with suspicion.
But read that a child doesn't have a soul until it is 7 years old in a book ... AND IT BECOMES SECULAR CANON. AND ANYONE WHO DOUBTS IT IS A BIBTARD WHOSE GENES SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HUMAN GENE POOL. (Secular Inquisition)
The arrogant ignorance.
The ... chutzpah.
The ... stupidity.
Any muhfuggah who claims he is responsible for 60,000 abortions is playing God.
06 02 09
Hey DV, I agree. This is the problem with academics in general. They think its true cuz its in a book, shunning all common sense and empathy. I read that child doesn't have consciousness or was it a soul, until he or she is seven. That has to be the stupidest bullshit I've ever read in my life, aside from racist propaganda.
But back to the point, I have noticed that a lot of choicers are total zealots. In general they produce many straw mans. I ain't even opened my mouth but already my opposition to abortion is rooted in the Bible (untrue) and everybody who shares my beliefs is a fundamentalist Christian retard.
Notwithstanding Buddhists, Hindis, and other religious traditions that shun elective abortions.
At this stage in the game, what is right is considered wrong and what is wrong is considered right. Despite this, I don't need a book to give me my opinions; I form them myself from life experience and other things.
Thanks for keeping it real.
One other thing...if we don't view humans as peple from conception, then we come to strange conclusions that are morally void.
In the Talmud book Sanhedrin 54b clearly states that it is okay to molest a boy if you are a woman if the boy is under the age of nine. The reasoning is that the kid may not be consciously aware of the abuse and so the crime would not be treated as a crime, more or less a minor infraction.
Saying that a kid ain't conscious or have a soul or whatever until he or she is seven is the type of flawed reasoning that justifies the abuse of children worldwide. I don't need an academic to tell me that shit is wrong. point flipping blank!
[quote]Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 250,000 People Every Year
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Mr Vesey:
I have learned to judge a theorist (I won't use "conspiracy theorist" because it is not appropriate in this case) NOT by the information that he brings forth.
INSTEAD I make the assumption that he actually believes what he claims and then I INSPECT HIS RESULTANT ACTIONS to determine if they are in line with these beliefs.
Thus I would inspect his reaction to the call from fiscally prudent, mean-spirited individuals to STRIP pharmaceutical funding from the masses as a means of PROTECTING them from an early death.
Would our hero STAND with those who sought to protect people's lives from a drug induced DEATH or would they stand on the protest line against such an act?
Don't worry about me Mahndisa. I have absolute peace of mind.
Feedback,
I am not sure I understand your question.
But it sounds as if you are talking about government sponsored "pharmaceutical funding".
Which means drugs paid for by tax-payers... right?
Which means 1) doctors prescribe drugs to an increasingly sick population 2) the drugs make them sicker 3) the pharmaceutical companies get paid whether the patient has money or not. 4) People are never healed, their sickness is just "managed".
If that is what you are talking about Feedback, I wouldn't stop at "banning" your euphemistically titled ... "pharmaceutical funding".
Feedback,
Despite your defensive posturing. You must admit you have learned much from your DV.net experience.
Peep game:
If the government has put 1 million Americans in jail for trafficking in narcotics.
Why does it subsidize narcotics like Oxycotin sold by another set of Americans?
It's like imprisoning Michael Vick for dog fighting, while giving Tom Brady millions to fight dogs.
For the most part, American doctors have been reduced to glorified drug dealers.
Why Denmark Vesey, you madcap...,
All the bass drained out your voice when you screeched to your flying monkeys to come to your defense against the most dynamic intellect on the Internet.
You summoned Mahndisa, off her meds and bringing her best kooky klown pose to the proceedings;
"In the Talmud book Sanhedrin 54b clearly states that it is okay to molest a boy if you are a woman"
You got David trying to play the concerned liberal egalitarian talking bout;
"old defenses of Negro slavery"...,
rotflmbao..... whew!!!!
Then you;
(what up Thor)
rotflmbao...,
you should be shot with hot pee.
If I go to the urban dictionary right now and look up "bitch move" I bet I'll pull up a photo montage of you in some speedos and those little half-boots you love so much.
Word of advice mang, whenever you're desperate enough to seek the assistance of a ragtag assemblage like this, it's a pretty good sign that you've exceeded your pay grade and would probably do better sticking to testicular grooming...,
I'm sorry CNu.
Come again?
I was busy telling a story to my little 6 year old "glob of cells".
I told her you said you she is not yet a "fully formed person" because you read it in a book.
She said "kiss her incompletely formed ass".
LOL. Globs of Cells Say The Darndest Things.
06 02 09
That's funny Craig, why don't you show something to refute what I said then? It is true. I don't give a damn if you make fun of me for citing facts. Dumbass.
The text within the Talmud reflects how foolish people can be when they try to put an age on when someone has a soul. The fact that you dare assert your personal theories as fact is dumbfounding. And I don't take meds. What about you? Dumbass.
I don't give a damn if you make fun of me
rotflmbao...,
glad to hear it, cause I think you've hit your stride as an accidental comedienne.
She said "kiss her incompletely formed ass".
LOL. Globs of Cells Say The Darndest Things.
They faithfully repeat back what you teach them, and they do it at ironic times because they're practicing making sense.
You may need to stop the little potty mouth puppet lessons before you wind up producing an accidental comedienne of your own...,
"They faithfully repeat back what you teach them, and they do it at ironic times because they're practicing making sense. " CNulan
1) "They"
2) "Faithfully"
3) "Repeat"
4) "Teach them"
5) "Do"
6) "Practicing"
7) "Making sense"
Wow Nu. 'Globs of Cells' can do all of that?
Amazing.
Yeah Bra. Them little satanic dissertations you read disguised as "history books" got you believing all kinds of silly inanity.
According to the arrogant ignorance you've displayed over the past few days killing a 4 month old child for the mom's convenience is no different than killing a 4 month old fetus for the mom's convenience.
Hell, they are both soulless "globs of cells" and non-person's anyway right?
Stick a vacuum up in the womb, suck the "glob of cells out" and dropping it in a blender is no different than sealing an infant in a ziplock bag and dropping it in a dumpster huh?
Fuck your "gut feelings" Mahndisa. CNu read it in a book!
You Seculartards will believe any misanthropic Luciferian Darwinian cult bullshit that manages to get published, huh?
[quote]1) doctors prescribe drugs to an increasingly sick population 2) the drugs make them sicker 3) the pharmaceutical companies get paid whether the patient has money or not. 4) People are never healed, their sickness is just "managed".[/quote]
Mr Vesey:
When I start seeing
* Arm and Leg restraints
* Tubes used to forcibly ingest such medications
THEN I will agree that those who are VICTIMS of these malicious deaths from the "Medical Industrial Complex" would not be HIGHLY PISSED if their drugs were taken away.
I was not highlighting the PAYEE for these drugs (the government). I was more so speaking to the general availability of these "murderous concoctions".
DV - I recently read an article entitled "Why Africa Must Start Making Its Own Drugs". It spoke to the need to break away from the global-national drug cartel, doing so even if it meant violating patents to save lives.
Do you think that the forces suggesting this trek are seeking to KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE? Who better to kill people than their own brothers and sisters?
Wow Nu. 'Globs of Cells' can do all of that?
complex molecules do even more amazing things than that.
they built you and everybody and every living thing around you.
I like to call it G.O.D. (genetic omni-determinism)
doesn't make'm "persons", does it?
Them little satanic dissertations you read disguised as "history books" got you believing all kinds of silly inanity.
you keep repeating this anti-book mantra over and over again, as if practicing it will make it more believable or true.
fact is, I've simply studied the matter at length
synthesized, drawn, and validated my own rather well-developed conclusions.
while I know that you're allergic to reading books of any type except glossy periodicals
perhaps one day you'll kick the "gut feeling" and "popular consensus" habits - in favor of study, deep reflection, and personal verification.
I'm not gonna hold my breath
That's not how "fashion-forward" bruthas role.
According to the arrogant ignorance you've displayed over the past few days killing a 4 month old child for the mom's convenience is no different than killing a 4 month old fetus for the mom's convenience.
there you go trying to put words in my mouth DV.
I didn't know you had so much of that "conservative" imagination sickness in you.
you realize, don't you, that that's a form of lying?
Hell, they are both soulless "globs of cells" and non-person's anyway right?
You must be drunk on Old Ronald Barr (196 Proof Plantation Kneegrow Moonshine)
drunk and putting on a show - arguing with yourself.
I told David that "personhood" - as indicated in the etymology of "persona" - is not fully formed until on or around the age of seven.
It follows from this, very simply, that a foetus is not a "person".
That baby of yours is work in progress on her way to "person"-hood
which actually brings with it a certain type of loss, but not the loss of "personhood"
or do you suppose I quoted Matthew 18:3 as idle wordplay?
too bad you decided to lie to your child about what I said..,
you could have taught her something useful.
instead you taught her how to klown and play the accidental comedienne role.
for your own amusement, or was it "ego" gratification?
You Seculartards will believe any misanthropic Luciferian Darwinian cult bullshit that manages to get published, huh?
it always has to start somewhere
lil klowns get it from big klowns -
the world goes round and round
and the moon will always get fed....,
"I told David that "personhood" - as indicated in the etymology of "persona" - is not fully formed until on or around the age of seven." - a lispy voiced CNu
Oh. That's what you told David?
Who in the fuck are you to determine when a person is a person?
Huh? What's that? Oh! You've done some "research"?! Come to your own conclusions??
OK. Cool.
Well, abort your own "complex molecules". Or dispose of your own 6 year old "non-person".
All of this exaggerated disdain for those of us who don't need to read a book to experience the complex reality of our children's humanity brings attention to your own self-doubt.
Whatever you've read that has convinced you that the 5 year old who beat me in a putting contest on the practice green Monday, is less than a "person" - and therefor whose life is of less value - is a book you need to put down Festas.
a lispy voiced CNu
you the one passing out testicular grooming tips - but I'm the "lispy" one?!?!?!
Who in the fuck are you to determine when a person is a person?
relax manolo..,
the law has already made that determination and sided with you gut-feely fashion-forward ball shavers...,
Well, abort your own "complex molecules". Or dispose of your own 6 year old "non-person".
nukka please...,
this all started because one of your mentally deranged flying monkeys forgot his place.
this cognitively impaired loser rolled up into the church I grew up in - and assassinated a physician I've known my entire life.
muphukka did this to terrorize women, other physicians, and those of us who're not stuck on stupid.
personally, i ain't never been scurred of flying monkeys,
however, I think it's long overdue time for the federal gubmint to declare open season on'em and do a quick and comprehensive cull.
can't have flying monkeys forget their place and start killing citizens like they were in charge.
next thing you know, one'of'em will be emboldened to take a shot a my Black preznit.
sheeeiiiiiittttttt.......,
All of this exaggerated disdain for those of us who don't need to read a book to experience the complex reality of our children's humanity brings attention to your own self-doubt.
rotflmbao.....,
whew - thanks magne.
I've never had the privilege of being psychoanalyzed by Anna Wintour's lil kneegrow cousin....,
that was funny.
Whatever you've read SNIP!
Enough posing already Manolo..., let's get down to brass tacks, shall we?!?!?!
Let's play a round of coonservative imaginary "what-if" shall we?
Heaven forbid, but "what if" one of these deranged flying monkey militiamen got ahold of your youngest, your oldest, and Mrs. Vesey - and put you in a situation where you were forced to choose which one lives and which ones die.
Not choosing is not an option.
You don't choose, they all die.
There's no compromising, no negotiating, nothing to be done for it but to make a decision. (you know, the type'a shyte big dick cheney was imposing on Iraqis flying monkey service in Bagdhad)
Who lives and who dies DV?
What are your decision criteria?
Why?
At this very moment, people making tragic life and death decisions like this all over the world - and sadly, they've been doing it for as long as there have been people.
06 03 09
Yes DV:
These type of assholes who say: "Yes I read it in a book and therefore it is true" are mentally deranged. It is abundantly clear when they play GOD and say when people have souls etc.
It is interesting to note that we are comprised of many different organisms much like the colony creature BEM in the Star Trek Animated Series. However, we still have one soul that carries our essence.
Notice how this asshole poster never refutes what we say with fact, simply mere conjectures that he tries to pass off as fact because he read it somewhere.
"Oh I've studied this at length. Children aren't really human until they are seven because somebody in a book said so. Oh I know more than you because I read boring books and articles written by pedophiles, historical revisionists and assholes that no one else gives a damn about. Oh I take what they say as gospel because I am incapable of forming my own opinions because I've lived such a limited life and am socially retarded."
This is the song that so called academics sing far too often. What a bunch of self important jerks.
BTW: Where is the refutation of the Talmud passages that justify pedophilia? You find none, only solace in insulting me because I dare speak the truth. Laugh if you will but you have provided no material facts to refute my statements. Therefore you are the one who looks like an asshole. I could truly give a fuck if you are grieving over your mass murdering friend.
I grieve over the children who are abused and killed every day by stupid fucks who justify the abuse because "children aren't real people anyway."
thank you mme. comedienne...,
your antics are a source of neverending edification for those who witness.
not to mention, a steady stream of sustenance for the moon - which eagerly devours your manic crumb distributions....,
I grieve over the children who are abused and killed every day by stupid fucks who justify the abuse because "children aren't real people anyway."
rotflmbao....,
whatever you say octomommarian...,
Yep. Just as I suspected dumbass. You just made a comment that had no substance other than to call me names. I'll do you one better. You are human hating, infanticide endorsing fuck of a person. Dumbass.
stupid hating, yes!!!
broken little octomommarian...,
"this all started because one of your mentally deranged flying monkeys forgot his place.
this cognitively impaired loser rolled up into the church I grew up in - and assassinated a physician I've known my entire life." CNulan
I see you still don't get it Festas.
Fuck your "physician" AND the cat who shot him.
I don't have a damn thing to do with either of those murderers.
You posted this story on this blog. I wasn't thinking about no late term abortionist or right wing Pro Lifer.
I'm interested in that OTHER set of EUGENECISTS who are pushing mystery vaccines around the world the way Rayful Edmond pushed crack back in the 80's.
Same people convinced you that abortion is sacrosanct convinced cats like Undercover Black Man that vaccines are gifts from God.
Until I saw where YOUR BOY estimated that he performed over 60,000 abortions in his life, did I grant him a thought either way.
Killing 60,000 babies over 40 years amounts to how many a day?
Assuming he took weekends off... that's ... that's ... um ... 5 babies a day.
What's that? OK. OK. You read a book ....
fetuses are not babies. They are undeveloped "non-Persons". LOL.
OK. Tyrone Talmud.
5 "globs of cells" per day for 40 years.
5 "Less than Persons" for 40 years.
Whatever makes you feel better.
And you mad because nobody gives a shit he got shot.
You need to get out more Nu.
Oh. The way you talking to Mahndisa is a little extra bra. What's up with that?
Sista sees it differently than you man. Why all the vitriol?
Aim that shit at me man. Keep the sista out of it.
where you see me cussin and klownin at your pet monkey mang?
if she wants to put her illness on display, far be it from me to slow her role.
compassion's not my strong suite....,
And you mad because nobody gives a shit he got shot.
sheeeiiiittttt.....,
you the one preaching sermons manolo.
me, I'm just teasing the monkeys.
Same people convinced you that abortion is sacrosanct
G.o.d is an abortionist son.
20-30% of all pregnancies are spontaneously aborted in the first month or two, usually without the mother even knowing.
Other fetuses are miscarried later or live babies die not long after birth, from defects.
For klowns pretending that "God" is ultimately calling all the shots, God must be the most egregious abortionist in the world...
"G.o.d is an abortionist son."
Exactly CNu.
Exactly.
Not some monkey motherfucker armed with a vacuum and forceps calling himself a "physician".
60,000 babies?
I haven't eaten 60,000 meals.
Dude was a little too dedicated ... don't ya think?
Feedback,
I'm not really sure what you are talking about. Maybe it's that Plantation Negro dialect.
lol. just playin' man.
But I can't help but get the notion that we are not talking about the same thing.
The level of frustration you express seems disproportionate to the point at hand.
Africans have survived hundreds of thousands of years in Africa without"government" (plantation) administered drugs.
Why do they need them now?
Feedback, before you answer. Think about this.
Many many smart people see a connection between the explosive AIDS epidemic in Africa today and the aggressive efforts of the Internationalists to "vaccinate" Africans yesterday.
I see a connection between Vaccinations and Abortion.
Think about that, before you answer.
My man
Dude was a little too dedicated ... don't ya think?
Nah mang.
He was a good man doing some of the most difficult, tragic, and demanding work in OB/GYN to help women in extreme distress who nobody else would help.
Think about it, he was serving an entire region (thus the high lifelong stats) cause up until last week, there were only four clinics in the country where these difficult and demanding procedures could be obtained.
Dude had a most beautiful wife and an entire clan of beautiful daughters of his own. He was dedicated to serving women and most importantly - those women in the greatest extremity of need.
For all the "gut feeling" reasons you've recounted, NOBODY enters lightly into the tragedy of a late term abortion. And without exception, these abortions are performed because of extreme birth defects or because of unacceptable risk to the health or life of the mother.
No way, no how was he EVER the monster that these retarded wastes of skin, smoldering in their own fantasy world of psuedo-religiously inspired hatred and imagination, have made him out to be.
Why you think he prevailed in one trumped up lawsuit and politically motivated criminal investigation after another? You think that if was really "tiller the baby killer" like your deranged pet monkey posted on her blog and like lying assed Bill O'Reilly made up and passed off to these unthinking cretins - that he would've gotten away with that shyte?
GTFOOH!!!!
Trust me man, you would've like this cat.
The mentally ill defective who assassinated him, and the mentally ill monkey who's been running off at the mouth here, there, and everywhere else cause she's literally off.her.meds, typify the type of insane klown extremism that needlessly cost this good man his life.
For all the "gut feeling" reasons you've recounted, NOBODY enters lightly into the tragedy of a late term abortion. " CNulan
CNu ...
If only a 'glob of cells' is losing its life. If all that is losing its life is an 'incompletely formed non-person' ... why do you consider a late term abortion a tragedy?
What makes it tragic?
Quite obviously what makes it tragic is the shattered expectations and HUGE squandered biological investment of the mother compelled to terminate the pregnancy.
Period.
My sym-pathos goes out to the deeply hurt feelings of the woman wanting and trying to achieve a maximum biological outcome and suffered a maximum loss instead.
[quote] You are human hating, infanticide endorsing fuck of a person. [/quote]
Mahndisa:
You must understand this man.
His THEORIES exist fully in his BASEMENT LAB.
They don't apply well in the REAL WORLD where the rest of us live.
The guy is antilogistic down to the core.
Unless you can find something that can align his "PERSONAL CONNECTIVITY" to the real world with his THEORIES - HIS words should be recognized as nothing more than a bunch of bits, represented by rapid flashed of light through some Tier 1 ISPs Packet Over SONET backbone infrastructure.
Since a HUMAN BEING is reduced to his or her component elements in the world of KCnulan - why not disintegrate his though representations just the same rather than ADD VALUE to them?
[quote]Africans have survived hundreds of thousands of years in Africa without"government" (plantation) administered drugs.
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Denark:
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL MAN!!!
Instead of YOU telling this to ME.
I would like for YOU to write an E-Mail to John Conyers and agree to TESTIFY in front of his committee telling hims THIS VERY SAME DAMNED THING when he attempts to hoist such a program upon the nation.
uh .... Why?
John Conyers is an old man who doesn't understand this issue 1/10th as well as I do.
Feedback, if the Israel Lobby turns their back on John, he'd be out of office before you could sing "Old Man River".
But Bra.
You trip me out.
I don't get these analogies you declare with such GOTCHA! enthusiasm.
You must understand this man.
rotflmbao.....,
DV: nulan is vitriolic because he knows he is wrong. when backed into a corner vicious animals can only bite and attack but their bites carry nothing of consequence. i find it interesting that this guy claims that i am mental on one hand then prides himself on his aneurotypicality, ie his schizoaffective disorder.
I appreciate the chivalry DV. But at some point, it probably doesn't make sense to engage a stupid human hating fuck like him anyhow!
Y'all are funny.
I see CNu's point and I see DV's.
Y'all have a lot of points in common.
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