Monday, January 10, 2011

Is Your Salt Worth You? Plantation Negro Deconstruction 309

Salt is good : but if the salt have lost its savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned ? It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; Luke 14:35

Your average Plantation Negro and Plantation Cracka and apparently your average practitioner of Plantation Medicine thinks all salt is created equal. There is actually a major difference between the standard, refined, processed table salt most of you were raised on and continue to toss into your shopping baskets while at the Super Center and full spectrum natural unprocessed salt.
Plantation table salt is rock salt that is mined, treated with chemicals, heated to over 1200 degrees fahrenheit, soaked in anti-cacking agents and iodine.
This process essentially reduces it to dry sodium and chloride devoid of all the essential minerals and macrobiotic nutrients that bodies use to ward off disease.
Since 90% of the Plantation Negro diet is processed foods, Plantation Negros ingest almost exclusively processed salts. Which explains why Plantation Negros are a major part of the Plantation Medicine business model.
... Excuse me. Phone call.
"Hi Grandma, how you?"
Oh, I'm OK. Baby. Cept my 'pwessure been up. Doctor put me on a low salt diet and gave me all these pills to take.
Nah Grandma. Don't do that. That doctor don't know what he's talking about. He's just selling drugs. They don't even teach doctors about natural food and medicine in medical school. They don't want them to know. As matter of fact Grandma ... they teach Plantation doctors to ridicule and scorn all things natural. Apparently the drug companies can't make money on things they can't patent. A Plantation doctor will no more recommend you eat natural salt than a Baptist minister is going to recommend his congregants meditate. Competing doctrine.
But the thing is this Grandma. Your body needs salt. It doesn't need processed salt. There is a difference. When you cry your tears are salty aren't they? If you cut your finger, your blood will taste salty too because the fluids in our bodies are like an ocean environment. Salt is essential for life Grandma. Our bodies cannot make it, so it must come from an outside source.
Natural, organic sea salt is still harvested the same way it has been for a thousands of years. It is hand raked and left in the sun to dry instead of being heat blasted which alters the ionic character of the salt.
All of the trace and micro-nutrients are fully intact. The correct balance of sodium and chloride are present as well as calcium, magnesium, potassium and 90 other trace and micro-nutrients. These are charged minerals that retain moisture and color.
But them Plantation doctors don't know anything about this. They don't realize how much damage they do the over all health of black people by advising them to look only to the Plantation Processed salt and Plantation Drugs to maintain their health.
Grandma, the industrial revolution industrialized much of our food chain. Now something as essential as salt is processed by the Plantation and fed to it's inhabitants like slop to pigs. In the process it damages almost all areas of their bodies especially the heart, kidneys, muscles and bones.
What's the Plantation's response? Is it to educate people to purchase natural less processed salt? No. The Plantation creates a "Low-Sodium" industry and a Multi-Billion Dollar High Blood Pressure Drug business. Hustle Hard.

70 comments:

Undercover Black Man said...

DV: Please take a moment to explain how the "ionic structure of the salt" is altered by heating. Thank you.

Constructive Feedback said...

What about "Sea Salt"? Is this a better form of sodium chloride?

DMG said...
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DMG said...

Although, this doesn't deserve anymore than "nigga please", I have to say if you wrote this steaming pile of ignorance, that you put some work in, as this fantasy is so complete that I had to call my son over to laugh with me. It was a teaching point. I told him this is what happens to kids who spend their time rhyming and passing notes in the back of high school chemistry instead of paying attention. He asked if you had a mental illness. I told him no, stupidity isn't in DSM IV.

Hopefully Submariner won't run into any of your fans in the E.D., explaining to him how some random blogger told them to disobey medical advice.

The thing is MOTI, you aren't backing into traffic blindly anymore. Your eyes are open...but your brain is preoccupied with visual and auditory hallucinations.

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL. Why you Processed Salt eatin' Plantation Negros crack me up.

Helllooooooo. Doc. •••Reality Check•••

1) Your patients are droppin dead.
2) Their ass holes are leaking.
3) Their diabetes has high blood pressure.
4) 100,000 people die from drugs you prescribe every year.
5) Drug companies sponsor the "Peer Reviews" which forms the canon of your little religion you like to pretend is "the scientific method".


Do you really think your sarcastic affectations are fooling anybody?

Perhaps you would like to share with us why processed salt is just as good for us as is unprocessed salt.

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Didn't really think so.

Oh.

My son said to tell your son 'we'll see whose daddy ends up sucking on COX-2 inhibitors and poppin Digoxin.'

Undercover Black Man said...

DV: Please take a moment to explain how the "ionic structure of the salt" is altered by heating. Thanks.

Denmark Vesey said...

I'd be glad to UB.

But before we move forward, please help me to understand either your or the good doctors assertion.

What is your contention regarding Processed vs. Unprocessed Salt?

There's no difference?

Processed salt is better for you?

I'm not sure. Help me out.

Undercover Black Man said...

Dude, I'm not making an assertion... you are. To wit: "Heat-blasting" salt in a drying kiln "alters the ionic structure of the salt."

I trust you wouldn't have written such a thing unless you comprehended its meaning.

Please share it with the rest of us who seek to understand.

Denmark Vesey said...

I will glad to UB.

But if you don't mind Bra. I'm addressin' your muhfuggin attitude.

You up here all sarcastic and shit. As far as I am concerned I am educating your black ass.

Is this a discussion or a debate?

If it's a discussion, I've said plenty. Share your view.

If it's debate, take a position.

Undercover Black Man said...

^ Let me amend my previous comment. I did make one assertion in regards to salt, and it's that iodization has been a boon to public health.

To help you better understand this, may I quote from the website of a Pakistani salt-refining company?

"Iodized Salt which is fortified with Iodine and is essential for the prevention of Goiter.

"In Pakistan, an estimated 20 million people are residing in the endemic goitrous areas and about 8 million of these are suffering from one or other form of (IDD) Iodine Deficiency Disorders.

"One million of these people are victims of mental retardation, which effects school performance and other activities adversely.

"Use of Iodized Salt is the easiest and cheapest means for the supplementation of Iodine."

Source

Now you, Schooly-School.

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Undercover Black Man said...

I think you're stalling for time, DV. Hoping like hell that you can find something via Google to explicate the naturopathic talking point that "scorching" salt at up to 1200 degrees is a bad thing.

Good luck with that, Schooly.

Denmark Vesey said...

Nah. UBM.

I'm sincere man.

But before we move forward, please help me to understand either your or the good doctors assertion.

What is your contention regarding Processed vs. Unprocessed Salt?

There's no difference?

Processed salt is better for you?

I'm not sure. Help me out.

Undercover Black Man said...

I have no opinion as to whether processed vs. unprocessed salt is healthier, as my state of current knowledge extends only to the matter of iodine.

Can you educate me now on the "ionic structure" issue?

Denmark Vesey said...

cool.

Denmark Vesey said...

An ionic mineral is an element that has a charge, either positive or negative.

On the molecular level, this means the element has either one too many or too few electrons.

This unstable ionic state allows the element to bond readily with water, making it possible for the body to absorb it.

In this state, an element has specific positive or negative electrical signatures that cause a dynamic equilibrium to take place, allowing the body to facilitate changes to move nutrients to the areas that need them.

Undercover Black Man said...

^ So then... how does kiln-drying alter the ionic structure of salt?

Citing a source would be much appreciated.

Undercover Black Man said...

And must you cut 'n' paste, DV? Can't you break it down for a brutha in your own words?

I mean... this is supposed to be school, right?

Denmark Vesey said...

Every second of your life, your body relies on ionic minerals and trace elements to conduct and generate billions of tiny electrical impulses.

Without these impulses, not a single muscle, including your heart, would be able to function.

Your brain would not function and your cells would not be able to use osmosis to balance your water pressure to absorb nutrients.

The absorption of minerals primarily takes place within the small intestines.

As your food passes through, minerals are transferred into the blood stream through the walls of the intestinal tract.

This process can only happen if the minerals are ionically charged. As we age or the body suffers from disease, stomach acid declines, making the few minerals still available in our food supply unavailable to our biosystems.

Denmark Vesey said...

Sorry for the delay man.

I had to book a Tee time for tomorrow.

Denmark Vesey said...

But next time.

Just Google "ionic" and "salt".

That's the thing about the information age.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist.

And you don't have to wait for the Plantation to tell you to think about the type of salt you eat.

Denmark Vesey said...

"And must you cut 'n' paste, DV? " UB

LOL.

Bra! You don't think them Plantation Doctors who got you on ... I'm guessin' ... 4 or 5 prescription drugs right now ... don't cut and paste?

LOL. OH! OH! Excuse me. They each do INDEPENDENT research when they write prescriptions for the legions of obese processed food eating Americans who waddle through their doors. Of course.

Dude please. They cut and paste whatever the Pharmaceutical reps present and the HMO's approve.

Undercover Black Man said...

You have yet to explain how "heat-blasting" changes the ionic structure of salt. You told me you'd be glad to explain it, DV. Were you lying?

CNu said...

denmark vesey, you're out of aces son....,

Denmark Vesey said...

Oh.

My fault UBM.

I thought it was self-evident at this point what happens when you heat your salt to 1200 degrees fahrenheit.

The bonds between the ions are broken.

Now you eating a steady dose of some shit that might as well be battery acid and paying $300 per month for "high blood pressure" medicine until you die.

Undercover Black Man said...

The bonds between the ions are broken.

I teed him up for you, DMG.

Undercover Black Man said...

DV. Flip it around, that’s VD...

Like the drip-drip-drip from your pee-pee,

Except you’re more annoying than that.

Callin’ niggas “nerd” like you hipper than that...

“Plantation negro” like you slicker than that...

“De facto homo” like you mo man than that...

“Secular fanatic” like you know God like that.

Yo, we all know you done put on a good show.

But like the man said, “Gotta go, gotta go!”

Pass the dice, D, you can’t throw no-mo.

Money’s gone, you can’t blow no-mo.

All fucked out, you can’t ho no-mo.

I’m your kidney stone, you can’t flow no-mo.

DMG said...

UBM,

You all don't need me on this. What MOTI wrote was THE MOST IGNORANT ASS SHIT I have seen online, including this site, in a very long, long time.

MOTI, I hate to be rude to you, because you are our host and all, but you really just need to apologize to your readers for posting this piece of garbage, because you clearly don't know what the fuck you are talking about. If you all would like a chemistry lesson, it will have to wait until morning because I'm not going to waste sleep over this bullshit. If one soft headed person decides to go off his/her meds because of this crap you just wrote...

Seriously brother, and I mean this in love. Crack a book.

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL.

Ahhhhh ...

Man.

Um. Um. Um.

All that, and that's the best you can do?

Ya'll muhfuggas is funnnnny.

But UB. Tell the truth. Was I right?

At least 4 prescription meds now huh?

(I'm placing bets on the motivation behind your self-righteous knee jerk defense of pharmaceutical companies and processed foods. I can see DMG. His self-esteem and living is invested in the sacrosanct pretenses of modern medicine. "Doctor knows best" and all that. But you visceral partisanship as a mere consumer is fascinating.

It's like Pooky defending crack dealers and the health benefits of cocaine.)

Anonymous said...

It's like Pooky defending crack dealers and the health benefits of cocaine.


roflmao!!

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

DV and UBM:
I too am wondering about the issue with processed versus unprocessed salt since y'll brought it up. It is fact that adding heat to the crystal changes its structure by breaking bonds and subsequent bonds reordering into new structure. But the question is this: is the new structure harmful, beneficial or benign?

I have not been able to find any information on the dangers of processed salt, except by advertisers of natural products who claim that sea salt is better. I think I saw one article that gave slightly more details by naming the benefits of sea salt but not much else.

I have had problems with my skin and have used sea salt crystals in the bath and it is immensely useful. It reduces swelling and helps with rashes and it is a good seasoning too. However, I haven't read any study, side from anecdotal evidence as to how and why its chemical structure is advantageous over processed salt chemical structure.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

I usually have sea salt, Lawry's seasoning salt, veggie salt extract, and kosher salt in my larder. I don't really have anything against processed salt per se. Sometimes I use regular processed salt to kill aphids on the greens from my garden, before I prepare them for consumption.

Anonymous said...

Hehehehehehe, looks like someone has been KNOCKED the fuck out of the ring! LOL

Anonymous said...

Hehehehehehe, looks like someone has been KNOCKED the fuck out of the ring! LOL


who?

Anonymous said...

Isn't the real issue regarding HBP the amount of sodium being consumed by Afrikan Americans?

FTR, I use sodium-free No Salt.

Submariner said...

DV you are being exposed on the Byrdeye/Telemaque level. Your words are at variance with your deeds. You talk up the hazards of 'Plantation Medicine' while disclosing that you've turned to it for arthroscopy. Said procedure involved at the very least administration of a local anesthetic and parenteral sedative so that you didn't bitch out.

Subsequently, your orthopedist likely prescribed an NSAID (or COX-2 inhibitor depending on the year) and narcotic like Percocet or Vicodin. And you surely complied with the routinely scheduled post-operative visit several weeks later.

Moreover, given the fact that a scope of the knee or shoulder is not an emergent or first-line procedure, you must have endured pain for some time unrelieved by pills and physical therapy. During that time you were in faithful contact with the orthopedist and submitted to X-rays, MRI, and intra-articular injection with steroids and anesthetic.

So you don't take your kids to the doctor when they get a fever and they never take antibiotics (which I find hard to believe given the prevalence of strep throat, bronchitis, and UTI and the mortality/morbidity associated with these diseases if untreated) but you get to have arthroscopy because you can't withstand the aches and pains in a particular limb?

Since you won't take malaria prophylaxis and the kids haven't been immunized against tetanus and diphtheria, I guess Asia and Africa don't comprise usual travel destinations.

What you provide isn't education but recreation.

Undercover Black Man said...
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Undercover Black Man said...

I have not been able to find any information on the dangers of processed salt, except by advertisers of natural products...

You nailed it, Mahndisa. The shit DV finally got around to popping doesn’t even relate to processed salt. He lifted that verbiage from a website hustling a product called “Concentrated Ionic Trace Minerals.”

Funny how he knocks the pharmaceutical industry for making money... yet appeals to the authority of quack-medicine peddlers who are out to make money.

Funny how he rejects the scientific consensus on matters such as vaccination... yet embraces scientific-sounding jargon to advance his arguments.

Embarrassing.

Submariner said...

Funny how he rejects the scientific consensus on matters such as vaccination... yet embraces scientific-sounding jargon to advance his arguments.

The same goes for the entire fundamentalist project. Use the cultural argot of liberty, individual conscience, and reason emerging from the Enlightenment while trying to destroy these things. It's much like the current fashion among neoconfederates of using appeals to the Constitution while simultaneously threatening secession. To quote Guido de Ruggiero, "the shadow which breaks the light is itself the creature of light."

Denmark Vesey said...

"DV you are being exposed on the Byrdeye/Telemaque level. "

ummm ... not hardly Sub. But I can see why you might want to say that at this point.

"Your words are at variance with your deeds. You talk up the hazards of 'Plantation Medicine' while disclosing that you've turned to it for arthroscopy."

Must have been about 14 years ago. Was still playing basketball over on Dean Street in Brooklyn. Them hardtops were killing me.

"Said procedure involved at the very least administration of a local anesthetic and parenteral sedative so that you didn't bitch out."

I remember an anesthesiologist, yes. Vaguely. (get it?)

"Subsequently, your orthopedist likely prescribed an NSAID (or COX-2 inhibitor depending on the year) and narcotic like Percocet or Vicodin. And you surely complied with the routinely scheduled post-operative visit several weeks later."

He might of. Didn't take it. I was smart enough to know better even back then.



"Moreover, given the fact that a scope of the knee or shoulder is not an emergent or first-line procedure, you must have endured pain for some time unrelieved by pills and physical therapy. During that time you were in faithful contact with the orthopedist and submitted to X-rays, MRI, and intra-articular injection with steroids and anesthetic."

Actually nah. I remember because the Dr had an office on like 89th right off Central Park. Gorgeous neighborhood. This girl I knew back then had to pick me up, because their out patient policy wouldn't let you walk out on your own. But anway. I saw her standing walking down the street, as I was signing the release papers. I hobbled outside and dropped the crutches to the ground and broke into a sprint. Swear to God. She laughed and told me I was crazy. Picked my crutches up for me and we literally hopped in a cab.

But gotta say. That Artho was a beast! I was back on the court like 48 hours or something.



"So you don't take your kids to the doctor when they get a fever and they never take antibiotics"

When they get a fever Doc. I see it as a good think. The bodies immune system is functioning properly and fighting infection by elevating body temperature. We keep them comfortable and hyrdated and rested. You know what happens Doc ....? They bounce right back up the next morning even without your products and services.

(which I find hard to believe given the prevalence of strep throat, bronchitis, and UTI and the mortality/morbidity associated with these diseases if untreated)"

Wow. That's interesting. We may have to take this conversation to another level Sub. Our approach to antibiotics with our children is radically different from what is typical for Plantation people.



"but you get to have arthroscopy because you can't withstand the aches and pains in a particular limb?"

SUB. LISTEN CAREFULLY:

It appears that Arthoscopic surgery works. I recommend it.

When it comes to triage, I don't believe there is a better medical service to be found in the world than Plantation Medicine.

When it comes to keeping people from getting cancer ....

When it comes to keeping people from getting diabetes ....

When it comes to Keeping people from getting AIDS ....

When it comes to the food it approves for human consumption ....

Come on Bra. I don't even need to finish.

(I find your "all or none" argument intellectually and uncharacacteristically dishonest)

I mean Sub. Stop kidding around.

Processed Salt kills. Yes or no?

Based upon the $Billion "hypertension" INDUSTRY and "salt substitute" BUSINESS, I will take your "Yes" for granted.

Denmark Vesey said...

"Since you won't take malaria prophylaxis and the kids haven't been immunized against tetanus and diphtheria, I guess Asia and Africa don't comprise usual travel destinations."

Doc. You choose to shoot your children with whatever the latest brand of DTP viral concoction the drug companies present to you. I'll pass.

But thank you for the dire warnings of "impending death and disease" (The theological metaphors crack me up)



"What you provide isn't education but recreation."

Well ya'll Orthodox Plantation Medicine apologists are getting a little amusing your damn selves Doc! ;-}

With the Leaky Ass Syndrome and all.

Denmark Vesey said...

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

DV and UBM:
I too am wondering about the issue with processed versus unprocessed salt since y'll brought it up"

See. That's why I'm happy to have such intelligent, forward thinking sistas on the team.

Manhdisa brings us to the matter at hand.

Processed vs. Unprocessed.

Let me say it again.

Processed foods and medicines vs Unprocessed foods and medicine.

It really aint that deep.

I mean. Do we even really need to talk about the domino like series of pathologies that are the inevitable consequence of ingesting processed refined chemicals?

Do you really need to be a rocket scientist?

Muhfuggas wouldn't heat to 1200 degrees fahrenheit the OIL THEY PUT IN THEIR cars.

But will ARGUE that people who would rather not subject something as important to their health as their salt to 1200 degrees fahrenheit are somehow crazy.

Deprogramming Plantation Negros aint easy.

Submariner said...

Manichaenism is a natural science whose hypothetical character is ideal for educated people who are inclined to speculate without examining things closely.

Hawa Bond said...

DV. I'm with you.

Heating kills the natural enzymes in food that help the body perform natural processes... which is why a fresh organic apple will ALWAYS be healthier than apple pie (added sugar and all).

Anyway... Once my mom was caring for my son during the day while I worked. He fell ill with fever. I explained to her that I feed my kids a modified diet instead of putting them on antibiotics (which the doctor ALWAYS prescribes without seeking proof that a bacterial infection exists). Do you know how many prescriptions I didn't get filled????

Anyway, she went against my direct orders, got the antibiotic, and gave it to my son. He ended up in the hospital for 4 days with a bacterial infection from killing the good bacteria in his intestines.

A slick doctor (I read him from a mile away) came in talking about all the EXTRA tests we needed because my son had Chrons disease. He did his best to convince me. I told him, "My son doesn't have Chrons disease. He took antibiotics when he should have." He looked at me like I had three green heads.

Needless to say, I skipped the tests, I skipped the drugs, and my son has been FINE SINCE FOR YEARS.

Do you know who supported me? The pediatrician from another land who agreed with me, behind the other doctor's back, that the diagnosis and push for more drugs/tests was RIDICULOUS.

I forgot to mention... I have EXCELLENT insurance. I am always a target for "more useless tests" because everybody wants to get paid.

I have read the studies. I have read at length about the medical industry. And while I believe some enter the profession to actually help... medicine is dead to healthier natural alternatives as a result of rampant capitalism and greed.

I'm with you, bro.

Intellectual Insurgent said...

Speaking of antibiotics, I got a sinus infection some time ago for the one and only time in my life. It was pretty vicious too.

I self-diagnosed, then called my sister to confirm. She asked for the phone # of the nearest pharmacy so she could call in a prescription for antibiotics, but I asked her not to.

We made a deal. I had two days to go with some wacky natural approach and, if that didn't work, she'd call in the prescription, which I had to take. Fair.

Went to Whole Foods, picked up some colloidal silver and probiotics and took those.

Two days later, when my sister called to discuss the prescription she would be calling in, I was thrilled to tell her I had no sinus infection. All gone.

My mom was one of the people who took antibiotics for everything, even non-bacterial. And that probably is why she died of colon cancer at 60.

Undercover Black Man said...

But DV... do you have any idea WHY the air inside a salt-drying kiln is typically heated to a temperature above 1000 degrees Fahrenheit?

(By the way, bruh... the salt itself DOES NOT get that hot; the salt doesn’t stay inside the kiln long enough to get that hot. The temperature of the salt rises to about 250 degrees. Does that ease your mind, DV? Or is 250 degrees hot enough to alter the “ionic structure” of salt? LOL!)

Anyways... why must the air inside of a salt-drying kiln be hotter than 1000 degrees? Care to guess?

It’s “to kill any bacteria which may be present on the salt, and burn away any organic material.” (Source) Organic material such as algae.

But let’s talk bacteria. In particular, “halophilic” (or “salt-loving”) bacteria.

“There are two main kinds of extreme salt-loving bacteria, the rod-shaped halobacteria and the spherical halococci. They are extremely small unicellular organisms, visible only under high magnification. ...

“A single drop of brine from [a salt lake] may contain millions of the minute, rod-shaped Halobacterium, squirming about with seemingly perpetual motion. ...

“They are found in salt lakes and brine ponds throughout the world, including the Great Salt Lake and the Dead Sea.” (Source)

(This is why some salt ponds have a red color... because of the halobacteria, which produce a red pigment. Other salt ponds are green, because of green algae.)

You see, DV... halobacteria can remain alive in dry salt crystals for years. Matter fact, “their extreme tolerance for ordinary table salt (sodium chloride) makes them a nuisance to companies using solar evaporation ponds for the production of solar salt.

“Freshly produced solar salt is often contaminated with these organisms, and they occasionally cause spoilage of fish, meats, vegetables and hides when salt has been used in the preservation process.”

Hence the need to destroy those bacteria during the salt-refining process. Hence those 1000-degree ovens.

Does all this make sense to you, DV? I hope so. You’ll be tested on it tomorrow.

UBM is college.

Anonymous said...

Hehehehehehe, looks like someone has been KNOCKED the fuck out of the ring! LOL


who?

Who do you think?? The one who cannot answer direct questions, or explain his statements.

Denmark Vesey said...

First of all Undercover,

Thank you for the long awaited explanation from you of the Pro Processing persuasion.

After all the preliminary guffawing, and declarations of "victory", I had kind of braced myself for something a bit more dramatic than "salt is heated, refined, processed and denatured to kill "the bacteria".

"Kill the bacteria"?

1) What did people do for salt before they had 1,000 degree ovens?

2) How large a threat is this "Great Salt Bacteria". Does it threaten to kill as many black people each year as does hypertension and high blood pressure caused be eating dead sodium which is what salt becomes after it is heated at such high temperatures?

3) More black people will suffer strokes this year than will be in prison. Do you think it would be valuable to perform an overall review of the potential impact on Plantation Negros fed a diet of processed denatured foods?

I mean Bra. Blacks are dying at near Holocaust numbers.

Is processed NaCL to black people what Zylon B was to the Jews?

Submariner said...

was wondering how long before Jews made an appearance.

Undercover Black Man said...

1) What did people do for salt before they had 1,000 degree ovens?

Ummm... get sick?

Undercover Black Man said...

And what the fuck is "dead sodium"??

Intellectual Insurgent said...

All matters of chemistry are referred to Hubby for review since, for the record and for those who do not know, he literally is...a rocket scientist.

He said that the NaCl chemical bond is actually one of the strongest chemical bonds that exists and that it would be difficult to interfere with the bond, even at 1,000 degree heat. He had no idea what all the ionic stuff was about, but said it must have something to do with how salt reacts to water.

He said that lots of things are called salts, and table salt is a processed salt that has been stripped down to the bare bones sodium chloride. Unprocessed salt is, of course, better than processed salt for the same reason whole grain bread is better than white bread - the processed salt has been stripped of all the beneficial trace minerals like iron and, thus, is an empty food so to speak.

Seems quite straightforward.

Denmark Vesey said...

1) What did people do for salt before they had 1,000 degree ovens?

Ummm... get sick?


OH. I. See.

As opposed to all these healthy obese diabetics with hypertension and high blood pressure running around here today huh Doc?

Denmark Vesey said...

Undercover Black Man said...
"And what the fuck is "dead sodium"??"



The reason you are on odds on favorite to get Leaky Ass Syndrome instead of me.

Undercover Black Man said...

DV... you do realize that the life expectancy for the average American today is about 78 years, right?

Do you know what the life expectancy was for the average American in 1900? Care to guess?

It was 47 years.

The average American now lives 30 years longer than the average American of a century ago.

But you’re saying, what... they were healthier back then??

Hang it up, dude. Seriously.

DMG said...

NaCl is NaCl.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

DV:
I still haven't seen anything other than empty claims to show why one version of salt is better than the other. If all you have is anecdotal evidence, then you could say so. Some things are taken on anecdotal evidence alone, but to be fair I would scrutinize so called natural claims as much as I would processed claims because there are snake oil salesman everywhere.

II: Your husband knows that salt is an ionic solid. I am guessing you said he didn't know about that 'ionic stuff' because of other claims made here about its ionic nature?

And to be sure, humans have been living on raw milk and raw salt for thousands of years so the facts say that we can live with these things. My biggest issue is whether or not the processed salt has any beneficial qualities just as I would ask the same about sea salt etc.

Denmark Vesey said...

I'm glad you said that Mahndisa.

Because I thought it was self evident. I thought these dudes were just being disagreeable because the plantation paradigm was being threatened.

But help me out. Which "claim" do you consider empty?

submariner said...

Insurgent, considering that most upper respiratory infections are viral in origin it is hardly remarkable that your sinuses cleared without antibiotics. The medical profession, myself included, advocates for judicious and targeted use of such agents.

Anonymous said...

The medical profession, myself included, advocates for judicious and targeted use of such agents.


why?

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

"This process essentially reduces it to dry sodium and chloride devoid of all the essential minerals and macrobiotic nutrients that bodies use to ward off disease."

This is an empty claim, lawyers call this puffery. hehehhe But seriously though, I haven't seen anything that indicates this is true. UBM posted links about bacteria in salt and how the process of baking it kills this bacteria. In what way are these so called macrobiotic nutrients able to ward off disease?

Look, I am not averse to the possible veracity of these statements, but I haven't seen anything except puffery from advertisers. Even if I could find a naturopathic almanac of fact based information compiled over thousands of years, I could accept it. But you haven't shown us such evidence. Since I was unaware of the salt controversy, I am genuinely curious.

I use sea salt simply because the flavor is richer and its good for your skin, this is from personal experience and a sea of anecdotal evidence about sea salt crystals helping psoriasis and rashes etc. I have benefitted from its use in this capacity. But when I ran out of sea salt for my bathing, I washed my face with processed salt and water. It was more abrasive but seemed to help as well.

So can you cite anything from a naturopathic journal other than claims from advertisers about this stuff?

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Submariner is right; I've seen a major push with doctors over the past few years to limit the use of antibiotics. But I will say that as a kid, I was pumped up with those things. This culminated in me getting antibiotic resistant mycoplasma pneumonia at nineteen going on twenty and a brief hospitalization.

It is a known fact accepted in the public record that too many antibiotics aren't good and kill the good bacteria. This is why eating active cultured yogurt is good if you take antibiotics.

The last few cases of pneumonia I got were viral in nature so the antibiotics didn't do anything; the infections simply had to run their course.

The last time I took antibiotics was after my Csection and I got fungus between my fingers and in other places due to them killing the beneficial bacteria that eats up yeast and fungus.

I have not taken antibiotics in just about one year, as most of my infections are viral in nature anyway.

I have found that loads of garlic are exceedingly helpful because they have a natural antibiotic effect that is not so drastic.

I am not against plantation medicine DV like breaking a leg or needing surgery. But the apothecaric role they have increasingly played in our lives limits the credibility of most doctors as drug pushers.

With that said, Submariner sounds like a very reasonable person who uses excellent judgment with his cases. Too bad there aren't more doctors like you SB, and I do mean it.

DMG said...

Even though Mahndisa may hate the endorsement from me, she's speaking the truth about salt, and about antibiotics. Minor point however, it's not necessarily too many, sometimes duration of use, or just inappropriate usage is the culprit.

Anon,

Antibiotic resistance is a serious concern when they are misused.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

endorsement from you is unnecessary but anyone with a brain would ask these types of questions.

submariner said...

Anon,

A professorial exegesis on bacterial and human relations can be found at Craig Nulan's Subrealism.

DMG said...

Wow Mahndisa,

It's sad you cannot even take a complement...and as we both can see not everyone asks questions the relevant questions. Kudos to you anyway.

Hawa Bond said...

The medical profession, myself included, advocates for judicious and targeted use of such agents.

I wish this sentiment was globally accepted in the medical community. I remember the days when cultures were taken to see if the infection was bacterial.

Now, whenever my kids go to the doctor, he throws around prescriptions for antibiotics like Walmart sales papers.

I asked about the more virulent nature of bacteria as a result of the over-prescribing of antibiotics. He shuffled his way to "just in case a secondary infection occurs as a result of him not feeling well." Bull. Schnit. I wallpapered a room with those useless prescriptions and kept it moving...

I've been too busy, but hopefully I can come back with more later on my personal position about doctors and medicine...

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Hawa, author of Fackin Truth Blog and Cleanse Master Remix

Anonymous said...

Arthroscopy is needed from weak ligaments and misalignments.

With proper training, it wouldn't be.

BTW, knees generally just continue to decline after such surgeries. So, they are not real fixes, either.

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