Intellectual Insurgent said ...
"In my mind.....the highest form of compliment to a woman is to appreciate her while she is naked in front of me".Ladies, if you are offended by this statement, you are revealing what you have obviously never experienced - the gaze of a man upon your naked body that is like the gaze of a connossieur of art upon a great painting.
There is no more wonderous a compliment than when a man wants to admire the fine piece of God's art that you are.
jeri said...
So lincoln, I guess an unattractive, ugly, fat women, and the intellects, womanist, feminist and other nut will never deserve the "highest compliment" from a man?But meanwhile, a lying, cheating, airheaded (but hot) skank - will?
I don't get it. It's not like any of us had anything to do with what we were born looking like. So why should we be complimented on something we played no part in?
And if you're complimeting "God," then what about the ugly women he makes? Are you saying he messed up on those?
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There is no more wonderous a compliment than when a man wants to admire the fine piece of God's art that you are.
You sure about that? What about if he rubs one out to you as well?
And what about old, obese women whom no man wants to pay the "highest compliment" to? Are they then much less worthy than the porn stars and models whom get complimented much more?
II,
That is so true! The woman is the only thing created by God that God and man said "it is good" think about it.....a master piece indeed. And I love everything about being a woman...sometimes I amaze myself on the beauty that is me....
the good nurse
II,
The women in your avatar is wearing a burka/hijab. As you know, one of the reasons muslim women may choose to wear one is to curb unnecessary male attention. Funny you should mention gaze.
Quran:
"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their head coverings to cover their bosoms, and not to display their beauty except to their husbands..." (Surah An Nur: 31)
As far as me never having been gazed upon and appreciated naked, let's just say I have never had any complaints.
Peace,
la
Jeri, are you generally delighted to look at old, obese men?
Jeri, are you generally delighted to look at old, obese men?
roflmao!!!
No, but what is your pt?
Jeri...
"No,...".
Why not? Are they then much less worthy than the movie stars, Tyson Beckfords, Hugh Jackmans and other models who get complimented much more?
Lookswise, yes.
However, I never said that my "highest compliment" to a man is leering at his naked body.
My "highest compliment" to a man has nothing to do with the aesthetic appeal (or lack of) of his flesh bag.
ok
Jeri,
Your faux outrage is really hard to take seriously.
You sure about that?
Absolutely sure. Because I know what it is to be the recipient of a gaze of admiration. There is no greater compliment a man can pay a woman.
And what about old, obese women whom no man wants to pay the "highest compliment" to? Are they then much less worthy than the porn stars and models whom get complimented much more?Worthy of what?
05 01 09
Hey,
Although I appreciate sexual attention, I too don't feel as though that is the highest attention that a man can give a woman. I think the highest compliments come from people telling me that I am a good person and that they like the way my brain works. I met my husband in a physics class. We evolved our relationship through studying together.
Our love of each others' minds was the first and most important compliment we paid each other.
But secondly, I do appreciate when he tells me I look nice or he likes my hair or whatever...
Mahndisa,
Girl, I expected you to get the point of this better than any of the other ladies. :-) You and I have some e-mails to exchange. LOL!!
We're not talking about "sexual attention". We're talking about the unspoken language between a man and a woman. Words are mere symbols. The gaze of a man who appreciates a woman's beauty and the comfort of a woman confident in her own beauty is the ultimate meaning of marriage; of the union of two people.
Secular fanatics who are unable to bond with members of the opposite sex view everything as materialistic. Hence, the assumption that we are talking about sex and who is "worthy" of compliment when, what we are talking about, is beauty.
Please note Jeri's overblown manufactured outrage to the notion that a man can appreciate a woman's beauty without it being "sexual". It is Exhibit A in materialistic approaches to relationships.
Secular fanatics like Jeri don't even know why they are mad. Like Pavlov's dogs, they start frothing at the mouth when man's appreciation of woman is discussed. They have to make it dirty because they know nothing of the beauty that is possible; for them, all relationships between man and woman are dirty.
Godly people understand the beauty. And understand when a true connosieur appreciates a fine piece of art.
05 02 09
II: If the discussion is restricted to talking about that language between married man and woman, that is a lot different than saying the above as a blanket statement. And to be honest I was more addressing the spirit of what CF said, which I disagree with.
But I think about how I got with my husband and what I said still stands. And this is consistent with the fact that I live in my head a lot;)
You're still missing the point Mahndisa. Let's move past materialism and take it up a notch to the soul. No need to be so literal about this.
The statement was to the effect that the highest compliment CF could pay to a woman was to appreciate her naked.
We're not talking about how you got together. What he thought was attractive, blah, blah, blah.
We are talking about when a man and woman are alone together, when she is naked, and how he looks at her.
Honey, if you've never found your husband just admiring your form in quiet enjoyment when you are in the shower or getting dressed in the morning, you two need to do LESS talking and more being. :-)
05 02 09
"Honey, if you've never found your husband just admiring your form in quiet enjoyment when you are in the shower or getting dressed in the morning, you two need to do LESS talking and more being. :-)"II:
I figured I'd respond to this. You well know that I think literally, so I responded in a literal way. You are conflating a few issues. Of course what happens behind closed doors between married people is a beautiful thing. But I still cannot say that the highest compliment that my husband has paid me has been when he admires my naked body.
My husband and I talked about this the other day. The highest compliment my husband ever gave me was when he was discussing me with a doctor and I overheard. Belive me it had nothing to do with bedroom admiration. And I don't like to get too personal on these issues online anyhow. Needless to say, it is what it is.
^Hat tip to Mrs. Rigmaiden!
Attractive Women
Dont have issue with your statement, only unattractive, ugly, fat women, and the intellects, womanist, feminist and other nuts that cannot accept the fact that many men are visual...and enjoyed gazing upon a beautiful woman, when I walked down the street...I don't say wow, she is smart and probably has a big ass brain!
That is asset that is determined after meeting attractive woman!
Fat Woman and angry ugly woman want attractive men too!
Wow! Guess we, intellects, womanist, and feminist, should all stop commenting if we want to be attractive.
Lincoln's comment perhaps explains the disconnect here. There are women who appreciate and UNDERSTAND masculinity and, thus, know that the unspoken admiration that comes through in a man's gaze is beyond compare.
Then there are women who only relate to the things men do when they are done on a female standard, i.e. with a whole lot of words.
As Lincoln astututely pointed out, men are visual. Women are verbal. When a man pays you a "verbal" comment ladies, it will never be anything compared to the visual.
But I suppose the militant Feminazis will never accept or appreciate the differences between men and women and will continue to froth at the mouth until men have been brow-beaten into acting like women.
Other than Mahndisa, who I know gets this and is just being difficult, I am going to assume that the rest of the ladies are single and always wondering why they can't keep a man. News flash ladies - this is why! You want your men to act like women.
So lincoln, I guess an unattractive, ugly, fat women, and the intellects, womanist, feminist and other nut will never deserve the "highest compliment" from a man?
But meanwhile, a lying, cheating, airheaded (but hot) skank - will?
I don't get it. It's not like any of us had anything to do with what we were born looking like. So why should we be complimented on something we played no part in?
And if you're complimeting "God," then what about the ugly women he makes? Are you saying he messed up on those?
I believe some of this is being said to just appear provacative. Surely, there is no need to mentally jerk-oneself off any further over such a frivolous comment.
All the best to my visual brothers,
la
This is what happens when there is no God. People get stuck on stupid.
Note the distinction Jeri makes. Intellects v. hot airheaded skanks.
Wow and wow and wow. Are those the only options? Is that the framework?
How a lying, cheating skank could ever get the gaze of admiration is beyond me. That Jeri could even make that mistake only further illustrates my point about materialism and the lack of a soul. You need God honey.
If you think we are talking about No man looks at a porn star, stripper or prostitute with a gaze of admiration. Are you joking?
Dang girl, you really misssed the point. We're talking admiration, not lust and perversion. Are you able to distinguish the two or are all interactions between men and women dirty?
Never once has it even dawned on the poor Feminazi that a woman with some meat on her bones could be admired for her body. Never once has it occurred to her that even the girls she thinks are ugly could receive the look of admiration.
Nope. We're back to the point about materialism and Godlessness.
Never once has it even dawned on the poor Feminazi that a woman with some meat on her bones could be admired for her body. Never once has it occurred to her that even the girls she thinks are ugly could receive the look of admiration.
thats true. II is right. But why do you say there is no God?
But why do you say there is no God?What happens when people do not appreciate God and have God in their lives, is that they lose their souls. And without a soul, everything is materialistic.
Not materialistic in the shopping sense, but materialistic in the soulless, empty, vulgar sense. Because they do not see beauty in everything (which would be Godly), they focus on material standards (which are man-made).
Hence, Jeri's preoccupation with "hot" airheaded skanks. She confuses perverted lust with soulful admiration of beauty because that is what secular materialists do.
When we talk about the beauty of a woman's body, we are talking about the same thing as a beautiful waterfall or a wonderous mountain top. And a man who appreciates one of those things, will appreciate all of them. That's the kind of man every woman should find. What words could ever convey the wonder of seeing such beauty? Are there any words that would ever do?
There aren't. But the Feminazis, trapped in the materialism of the intellect and feminine standard of talking too much, want the man to say "my, this beach is so beautiful because the sand crystals are glistening in the sun, and the color of the water is like a turquoise stone and the intellect of the fish is beyond compare" and, essentially, want to reduce him to some Shakesperean panzy ass.
A man who has no appreciation for the Godliness of a beach's beauty, or the awesome quality of the highest peaks will never have the taste to appreciate a woman's body.
He will see it the same way as he sees all other things. As vulgar means to an end that he will use and dispose of when finished.
And women have permitted this and become so accustomed to it that they have reduced themselves to material objects that must be painted and adjusted according to what Oprah and Cosmo say. If women like Jeri spent as much time discovering their souls as they do getting their hair and nails done, they would be getting so many looks of admiration, they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
One more point.
Part of Godliness is appreciating and understanding the differences between men and women. Men and Women are DIFFERENT. Period. End of discussion.
Women who hate God, hate Men. They hate masculinity. They hate anything that represents a man's unique nature.
So if a man says, hey I am visual, the God-hating, man-hating, Feminazi-lesbian immediately gets uncontrollably angry (even though she doesn't know why) and starts the attack of a wild dog, "what about her intellect", "what about fat girls", yada, yada, yawn. If she just shut her pie hole for 10 seconds and tried to understand, she might learn something.
Quite sad actually.
Men are visual. If a man gets too verbal with you ladies, you best make sure he ain't runnin' around on the D.L. because you, in essence, have a chick.
II I didn't get your point initially but I do now and I actually agree. Thanks.
Well, I happen to be thin in the waist and thick in the hips. So I have no shortage of men desiring to pay me their "highest compliments," believe me. Like I haven't heard that tired line before. And believe in God, whatever that has to do with anything.
But I just don't consider it that high a compliment to be complimented on something that I merely had the luck of the draw to be born with. Just like any other porn star or stripper.
That's like Trump's daughter being complimented for being born rich.
Is my highest worth ultimately based upon my looks? Obviously, the answer is yes for most men here.
jeri - its more common than you might think:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518857,00.html
"Probably the sexiest woman I know is my mother," he says. "She's an ethereal angel. Nobody looks like that woman. If I could meet my mother and marry her, I would. I would be with my mother now, if she weren't my mother, as sick as that sounds."
According to the interview, which Star magazine says it obtained, while the “Transformers” star was growing up, his mother often liked to walk around the house naked, even when young LaBeouf’s young friends were over. - Shia LaBeouf
http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/285x214/62925_1.jpg
Jeri,
Still talking about thin in the waist thick in the hips, when no one EVER talked about physical attributes in any of this. Beauty is not merely two boobs, a certain dimension waistline and a particular weight. You could be 200 pounds and be more beautiful than any anorexic plastic surgery case that spreads her legs for Hugh Hefner. If you really had God, I wouldn't even have to explain that to you.
But it's ok. You know there is something to what I am saying or you wouldn't keep reading. But you're not going out without a fight and I respect that.
Put down Cosmo and get God. Or better yet, stick with me kid. I'll teach you a thing or two about what it is to be a woman and to appreciate a man. By the time I'm through with you, you might even find yourself married to a man who gazes at your form with admiration.
Intellectual Insurgent: I appreciate your message here. And strangely enough, you helped me to understand something about my fiance just a little bit better.
I am always complaining about my physical flaws. But my fiance is fascinated by my naked form. He rubs me. He watches me sleep at night. He's almost like a child if I wear a stitch of clothing to bed. LOL
But it's not all sexual. We never lusted after each other altho we discovered quite pleasant surprises after our relationship evolved to include physical intimacy. He just loves me in all my nakedness. And the moment I read your original statement, I took the more spiritual translation that included the physical form along with the nakedness that comes from vulnerability.
I have had men look at me and I was left feeling like I needed a shower. But I relish the gaze of my fiance who has seen me naked in every way and loves me with all of his soul.
(Dangit. Y'all have me bearing my soul here, people! LOL)
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Hawa, author of Fackin Truth Blog and Cleanse Master Remix
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