Daddy?Um hm
Daddy,
Yes Boo Boo?
You need to help me with my homework.
Yeah. OK. Read it to me.
It's fractions. You need to tell me how to fix an inpoppa fraction.
A What!
Inpoppa Fraction!! You know!
Um. Um. Ask your big brother to help you. He's good at that. Plus ... I'm so smart, I might mess myself up doing that kind of basic math. You know I be doing calculus divided by trigonometry multiplied by the square root of pi don't you?
Yeah Right! You probably just can't do it! Now come on Daddy. Help me please. How you fix it?
Tell you what. Tell you what. I'm going to introduce you to this whiteboy on YouTube who has a very interesting way to teach math. Yup. He stole his technique from ancient African griots. Yeah, they understood things about the mind and voice and how they are connected. Yup. Check him out.
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my brother...,
the director of IT at my son's school is a senegalese brother who also happens to have been my son's kindergarten teacher.
I met with him on wednesday after school and showed him what we're working on - and he went to work like a don't know what setting up the meetings to get this pulled up through the system and translated for more "world-wide" application and distribution.
Had everything set up before close of business yesterday afternoon. I'm telling you man, it's like having an ice water concession in the desert.
^ Sounds like that Senegalese cat has clout.
I'm rooting for you, Boo Boo!
I'm going to introduce you to this whiteboy on YouTube who has a very interesting way to teach math.
Funky Jewboy, keepin' it real...
By the way, Craig, I can hook you up with a Cameroonian cabbie who might can take your shit intergalactic!
I guess he gave you a reach around while taking your shit intergalactic punkinhaid.
is intergalactic a bottom code word, or is it common among run of the mill's tricks, as well?
^ Damn, Nulan... that shit hardly even made sense. Your game is slippin' brah-man...
rotflmbao...,
hell hath no fury like a groupie scorned.
^ But seriously... I'm sure other employees at your son's school would like to hook you up also, Boo Boo. Try the Salvadoran lunch lady next.
jealously competing with cancer and loneliness to eat you up from the inside out eh, punkinhaid?
tell you what, if it gets to be too much for you, I'll overnight you something you can use to end your despair...,
^ No need, Boo Boo. For now, finally, I have a reason to live: Watching you try to make a success of yourself in business!
I don't know, though, Craig. Even with a white dude handling the brainwork (Vinny Toms is aweshome!), and as much as I'm rooting for you... I just don't feel good about your prospects.
Oh well. People will always need pizzas delivered in 30 minutes or less, so you have that to fall back on.
You two need to kiss and make up.
I can't wait to show my children how their papa has effortlessly saved an otherwise meaningless and empty life.
Nah Big Man
David Mill's nothingness is highly instructive and his compulsion to put it on display is a valuable public service.
Let him continue...,
You two need to kiss and make up.
I gladly would, Big Man. Especially as we've shared common cause in the past.
But Mr. Nulan has a lesson to learn in how to comport himself on the internets. To wit: the ugliness of personal attacks is uncool.
I'm indulging in it only to teach the bully a lesson... in terms he can understand.
Fortunately for me, until Craig starts generating some positive cash flow and contributing once more to the feeding of his family, he wears a bull's-eye.
I gladly would, Big Man.
Not me.
Especially as we've shared common cause in the past.
Even the wicked and the retarded have their moments David, but not wanting McCain for preznit is the functional equivalent of not wanting to be set on fire, hardly sufficient to qualify you for the friends list.
But Mr. Nulan has a lesson to learn in how to comport himself on the internets. To wit: the ugliness of personal attacks is uncool.
Suck as hard as you want David, you'll implode before I yield.
I'm indulging in it only to teach the bully a lesson... in terms he can understand.
LOL!
I've understood YOU in your entirety for some time now.
The beginning of your end with me started back in January when I asked you this simple question;
This is kind of sad and queasy-making.., why feature it?
You remember.
You had a glib excuse then too for what you were doing.
Like any other big lie, if you repeat it often enough, perhaps you can trick somebody else into believing it too.
Perhaps if you can convince somebody else, you'll even start believing it yourself!
Somehow though, I'm inclined to doubt that...,
^ You seem to have a profound personality disorder, Craig. Which is why I can't wager on your success as an entrepreneur.
When you start a thing David, be prepared to finish it.
I understand that in your world, dishonesty, immorality, and self-abasement are the pre-requisites for what you term "success". Given that you don't "make" or "do" anything useful, how could it be otherwise?
Now I don't know Holly Sampson from a hole in the wall, but then, this isn't about her. It's about you.
What I know about you is that it takes an empty, petty, miserable little wretch of a man to giggle, gloat, and gossip about what has befallen her.
Twenty years ago, exactly the same type of petty miserable little wretch of a man who had no qualms about putting Holly Sampson out on front street several weeks ago, had no qualms doing exactly the same thing and for exactly the same self-serving reasons - plus a couple pieces of silver - to Richard Griffin.
You are consistent to a fault David. Nothing has changed for you in the course of twenty years and on the inside you're exactly what you were back then. Like Dorian Gray, however, the outside has begun to seriously and obviously betray the rot and corruption within.
Keep pretending you're a "hero" dood. You may even manage to trick a few dim bulbs into believing it too.
Don't expect me to see you as anything other than what you've consistently shown yourself to be and what you know you are when you look at your "self" in the mirror.
Now I have to make a broccoli salad for my daughter's volleyball team and then go play a couple sets of tennis with my son.
So here ends the lesson for today.
When you start a thing David, be prepared to finish it.
Alas, this thing won’t end till you start pulling an income, Boo Boo. (And I hope it won’t take too many more years.)
What I know about you is that it takes an empty, petty, miserable little wretch of a man to giggle, gloat, and gossip about what has befallen her.
Befallen? Nothing has “befallen” Holly Sampson. She is earning a living... which is more than I can say for you, Daddy Daycare.
(The thought of you getting’ jiggy with some broccoli does inspire me to giggle, gloat, gossip, plus a few other things beginning with the letter G. I bet you can whip up a mean batch of cupcakes too, when the mood strikes. Am I right?)
As for your hurt-bitch whining that I "don't 'make' or 'do' anything useful"... Craig, homebwah... anyone who has watched and enjoyed NYPD Blue, ER, Homicide, The Corner or The Wire would beg to differ witcha. I’m doing what Sophocles did... what Shakespeare did; we share that storyteller’s soul.
But I must admit, mayne... judging by the kick-ass Web presence of your current business venture, you are on the verge of making the greatest contribution to humankind since Marconi.
anyone who has watched and enjoyed NYPD Blue, ER, Homicide, The Corner or The Wire would beg to differ witcha. I’m doing what Sophocles did...
rotflmbao...., whew!!!
ok, ok..., I don't watch very much teevee, so you may have to help me understand this.
I walk through the IMBD listings for what you say;
NYPD Blue
ER
The Corner
The Wire
but I don't see David Mills listed as creator anywhere?
ok, ok.., if I click on more, I see you way down a long list of schmoes given credit for writing a few episodes of somebody else's creation.
Where yo creations at punkinhaid?
I pull up Sophocles and I see a list of his orginal creations. I don't see "Leonidas" with creator credits, and then Sophocles waaaay down some list of schmoes for having pinched out a couple episodes of Leonidas work?
Same for Shakespeare - all kind of original works to his credit. Nowhere do I see "Francis Bacon" creator, and then a secondary page with Shakespeare waaaay down a long list of obscure schmoes and given credit for a couple episodes of Bacon's work?
Are you some kind of like writing valet or something?
Kind of like a portable Rochester playing 37th banana to many and sundry Jack Bennys?
Is that how things work in the big time punkinhaid?
Where yo creations at punkinhaid?
Wah-laa!
^ It wasn't no broccoli salad... but it paid some bills.
for you, the woman, and the kids, or just you, the crack ho's, and the buffet?
But I must admit, mayne... judging by the kick-ass Web presence of your current business venture, you are on the verge of making the greatest contribution to humankind since Marconi.
sigh....,
David Mills encounters still another thing beyond his 5 year old's comprehension and unintentionally discloses yet more of the smelly rot within.
Please change them funky psychological draws you been wearing boy, the stench is becoming unbearable!!!
This first generation "web-presence" was a static web-based admin interface for a phone switch. It's actually tied to a box in the traditional way that even you might understand.
However - and "sandbox" should have tipped you off - what you termed a "web presence" in the subsequent iteration isn't the simple thing to which your addled 5 year old's mind is accustomed.
Instead, it's the bare bones of a development interface no longer bound to a box in the same way the original version was bound.
F'zample, and here's another.
See, that there is a polymorphic, and now "mobilized" interface. Thus the term "mobile page". It functions more or less like a gadget that can be plugged seamlessly into the look and feel of any other existing "web presence".
That's.why.it's.called.a.mobile.page.stoopid.
That's why we went to the inordinate difficulty and expense of patenting the dang thang.
Get it?
I'm sure you don't, but that's alright.
Now, the Mobile Page is a soft, polymorphic phone switch that can be implemented on something as small as your iPhone (which runs BSD) and with a few minor style sheet tweeks, make it look like anything I want it to look like and name it anything network addressable I want to call it.
(web presence, yeesh, is your technology grip really that 1997?????)
Matter of fact, it's all a soft gadget now, and it can be implemented anywhere at any scale and broadly distributed across computing environments.
What does that mean as a practical matter?
It means that we can remotely implement 20 instances geographically distributed across the U.S. and make them behave as a unitary entity with no theoretical upper bound as to how much calling or texting capacity the remotely distributed cluster will support.
VoIP or dedicated circuits, doesn't matter - it's really just a question of how it will be used and what volume of utilization it's required to support.
It truly is a disruptive technology and as you saw, I'm one of its creators, not one of 50 schmoes down a long list of jokers given a credit for valet-ing somebody else's creation.
You let me know if you think one of your "creations" rivals this technology in complexity, utility, and underlying skill and intellectual horsepower required to pull it off, ummkay?
^ Well... folks can get with that, or they can get with this.
You let me know if you think one of your "creations" rivals this technology in complexity, utility, and underlying skill and intellectual horsepower required to pull it off, ummkay?
So why'd you need the white cat, Vinny Toms? You couldn't supply enough "intellectual horsepower" your own self?
No, I couldn't.
Frankly, the two of us couldn't have pulled it off on our own either.
We worked with other people with specialized subject matter expertise in what you might think of as "gelled" development team(s).
Its how complicated technology is most often devised, and it's always how a technology is made to evolve.
If you're effective, you produce an emergent kind of "overmind" which spans the group and yields something completely new and different.
Those who originate, sustain, lead, document, and fund the project wind up owning it as their intellectual property.
Gentlemen,
Fighting is the flip side of fucking.
Ya'll exchanging an awful lot of bandwidth.
One more exchange and you might as well tongue kiss.
Mills. Miguel Cadena or Marlow Stansfield?
Who's the more compelling character?
"If you're effective, you produce an emergent kind of "overmind" which spans the group and yields something completely new and different." CNulan
Brilliant.
DV...
"One more exchange and you might as well tongue kiss..."
I just lost my lunch.
Mills. Why are you harping on whether Nulan (of for that matter myself) is successful in his entrepreneurial endeavors as a means to put the man down?
Now you'er a talented guy, but in your field you had a quickly canceled series and wrote few episodes on other people's projects. That's certainly an accomplishment, but far from what you actually can accomplish.
Now, we are both entertainment industry people. So you know that perception is everything in that business. You also know that no one gives a shit about anyone's past accomplishments in that business.
By showing up mostly on Simon's projects you are typecasting yourself as a glorified assistant. Kinda like Ugly Betty.
I'm not saying this to put you down. I've got respect for you as a writer. This even though I know you are dipshit of a person. (But then again, in my business 99.48% of the artists, managers, and agents I gotta work with are sewer rats. So I'm kinda skilled in divorcing ability and talent from personality.)
So what I suggest is that you focus less on what Nulan does or doesn't, but focus on revamping your image. Take on something new. Leave Simon behind. Call my girl Toy Connor, for example, and prove that you, as a writer, can take a talented actress to stardom.
In contrast to moi, she actually thinks that you are a swell and stand-up guy.
Prove that you can BUILD. Don't prove that you can TEAR DOWN.
I mean look. Even as a journalist. With all the journalistic work you did, at the end of the day what are you famous for? Justified or not, you're really only known for two tear downs. For destroying people's lives. That's not a cool image to have. Even if it makes you short-term popular in certain ethnic circles.
So give your undoubted talent some room to develop. Take a plunge, again and again. Stop behaving as if you are an insecure mediocre talent and show folks that you actually can be a great talent.
^^^^aww....,^^^^
daddy builds a social construct.
Why are you harping on whether Nulan... is successful in his entrepreneurial endeavors as a means to put the man down?
Because I'm trying to break Nulan of a bad habit -- for which he is famous (and of which you, Fish, are a direct victim... or have you forgotten he called you a monkey?). The bad fucking habit of personalizing Internet arguments and indulging in ugly attacks upon people as if it's his only source of joy in life.
That fucker's idea of wit is to refer to my parents as retarded and to mock me as a cancer survivor.
My goal is to put Craig on the receiving end of this type of harsh treatment... hoping that his intelligence can supersede his disordered personality so that he'll start behaving better.
In the meantime, fuck that asshole. He hasn't accomplished shit with his M.I.T. degree, he has no income at the age of 45, and he's relying on his wife to feed his kids by selling real estate... a waste of her own impressive U.Mass. degree.
Such a useless sack of shit should refrain from personal attacks, don't you think? As Craig is fond of saying... it's not a good look.
Fuck him. He's useless.
That fucker's idea of wit is to refer to my parents as retarded and to mock me as a cancer survivor.
I'd much prefer mocking you as a cancer casualty punkinhaid, but then if wishes were women, you might actually have one.
My goal is to put Craig on the receiving end of this type of harsh treatment... hoping that his intelligence can supersede his disordered personality so that he'll start behaving better.
That's.not.going.to.happen. you disfigured clump of biological waste...,
But keep swinging empty little man, eventually you'll realize your arms are much too short to box with me.
^ How was the broccoli salad? Did the girls love it? I bet it was yummers.
Now... you brought up the "expense" of patenting your big idea (which no one can understand). Indeed, that's an expensive course, Craig. What are we talking... tens of thousands?
I hope you haven't wagered your children's college funds on it.
That would be a tragedy.
Don't let the stress wear you down, Boo Boo.
Who'll make the broccoli salads if you catch a stroke??
David, it's not like you started out as a sympathetic character.
So no matter how profoundly deluded you've become after your protracted public wallowing in self pity and corollary acting out - there's absolutely nothing you can say now that will elicit even the barest hint of external sympathy.
Simply accept the facts; I don't respect you, I actively dislike you, and I couldn't care less about anything you have to say to me.
Frankly, nobody else gives a damn about you either.
... I couldn't care less about anything you have to say to me.
And yet you keep responding. Isn't that peculiar?
What happened to those "1 million registered users" you predicted for Mobile Page two years ago? Where they at?
If you misjudged the market on that large a scale... how can you continue to have confidence about the future?
All the Senegalese kindergarten teachers in the world can't put you where you hope to be, Boo Boo.
I know there's no shame in personal bankruptcy, but shit... why don't you just get a job?
Mills...
"or have you forgotten he called you a monkey?"
Well, that would've had an impact if I indeed was a monkey.
Look. There're three things I can't stand about you.
(1) Your kissing white folks' asses.
(2) Your denigrating black people.
(3) Your wasting your talent by being a sycophant to David Simon.
Beyond that I never stooped so low as to attack your income or job or lack thereof.
Oh, and call Toy and let her know what's the fuck is going on with the TV show. Even if nothing is going on. Don't do that dipshit Hollywood shit and not call folks, letting them stew.
"One more exchange and you might as well tongue kiss..."
I just lost my lunch.
What's the matter with that Michael Fisher? Yet another homophobic asshole on this blog.
03 07 09
DV: Whoa! I came to visit after taking a blogging break for a day or so and see this! I heard about the rapping math teacher about a year and a half ago or so. They featured him in a story about kids in Simi Valley getting inspired by his antics. I think it is great!
The question that I have is whether or not his rapping could be ported over to the ghetto. Would the ghetto kids call him corney or would they listen to him? I only bring this up because he has been heralded as the seventh wonder of the math world for making math fun and interesting, and he has done a great job. Now can his techniques 'trickle down'? If so, then he is one badass.
From tutoring kids in the ghettos versus kids in higher eschelon neighborhoods, outlook and perception is everything!
Next, I am saddened by this utter bullshit on your blog. I contributed in some way to it but what I am seeing now is that there is beef between folks and the beefing has a history.
But I have to say something. It is utterly foul to make fun of someones battle with cancer, but people who cannot relate to others emotionally have a hard time understanding concepts like common decency.
It truly takes a small person with not very much internal worth to use the internet as a weapon for insulting and degrading others. And I can understand if folks are provoked; believe me but at some point its probably best to leave the arguments alone. Nothing will come of them unless you live for venting!
Beyond that I never stooped so low as to attack your income or job or lack thereof.
Well... you're not exactly in a position to do so, are you, Fish?
Jes sayin'... get a fucking job, beetch. And quit worrying about how the rest of us do ours.
Mills...
"Well... you're not exactly in a position to do so, are you, Fish?"
And what makes you think that?
You know anything about what I do or not do?
"Jes sayin'... get a fucking job, beetch."
Now see, that statement of yours does tend to confirm Nulan's invective about you.
See, in contrast to you, not only do I have a job, namely whatever I decide to do, but for over twenty-five years as an employer I've provided jobs, steady employment with which my employees were able to feed their families and put their kids through school. And that in three countries, the US, the UK, and Germany. Can you say you ever did that?
Plus I'm raising a daughter by myself. Can you say you did that?
Alright then.
Statements of yours such as the one above make it appear that you are a very small person. It fits perfectly with your unwillingness to see logic and assign "black" people to mental inferiority.
God knows I do not like Nulan as a person, but how the man arranges his family life, whether his wife works and he takes care of the kids or vis a versa is really none of anyone's business. Particularly not mine and especially not yours.
Which reminds me...
Mills...
"He hasn't accomplished shit with his M.I.T. degree, he has no income at the age of 45, and he's relying on his wife to feed his kids by selling real estate..."
First off, what is it that you have accomplished, MIT-wise, that allows you to judge what people do with their MIT degree or not?
"... a waste of her own impressive U.Mass. degree."
Second, what has Nulan's wife ever done to you? And, of course, what is it that you have accomplished, UMass-wise, that allows you to judge what people do with their UMass degree or not?
Moreover, it makes no logical sense to think that people who worked hard to g et their degrees do not want to pursue fields that they studied for. Fact is, that we continue to live in a racist society where a college grad who is "black" has difficulty competing with a high school grad who is "white".
The same goes for "black" entrepreneurs.
So the man has a wife, is raising his kid or kids, and is trying to build autonomy under highly adverse socio-political conditions. He may be an asshole, but he's an asshole that has accomplished keeping a black family together under these conditions. What family have you kept together? And what the fuck has his wife ever done to you?
I agree with Mahndisa...I am not sure that the topic at hand lent itself to all the bullshit that the two "gentlemen" exchanged. I have no issue with disagreements...even passionate ones, but the disrespect to those of us reading is way out of pocket. If there is that much for them to discuss I suggest they exchange phone numbers and do so offline.
Love u DV..keep up the great job!
the good nurse
And yet, this exchange is really nothing more than an act to disguise the fact that there is an existing paradigm thoroughly understood within the black community despite all the rhetoric demanding the treatment of blacks as individual thinkers. No doubt, blacks think at the individual level and of individual pursuits, but a large majority of American blacks share the same understood paradigm. That paradigm being a hidden and perpetual system of white supremacy/oppression in which they are entrapped.
These phony anti-intellectual "exercises" are nothing but an attempt to convince "us" that blacks aren't monolithic thinkers and therefore don't agree on the above "basic" and "fundamental" paradigm.
But it just looks like jive hustle from here!!!
Thor
So, if a large group of people share a belief, that means they are not individual thinkers?
Ok, I can see that theory.
But, do you apply that logic to every "race" or do you only single out us poor black folks for scrutiny?
After all, according to history, white folks are no strangers to groupthink themselves, yet y'all seem quite willing to demand that the world view all of you as individual thinkers and not part of some monolithic group.
So, are white people hustling like black people?
What's the deal?
Big Man,
I see white people beholden to liberal groupthink everyday, but such groupthink is a unique matter seperate from the groupthink held by a large swath of American blacks that claims the existence of a paradigm in which whites are supreme oppressors.
In fact, white liberal groupthink affirms this white oppressive/black inferior paradigm. The question is why do you believe white liberals?
But back to the anti-intellectual charade used to mask the known fact that both Fisher and Nulan are undeniable advocates of this white oppressor/black inferior paradigm.
In reality, they are both in collusion with white liberal groupthink on the matter of radical autonomy.
Fisher claims a white supremacist paradigm and denies he is a black man.
Nulan also evidences white supremacy and is looking hard for a genetic understanding.
Put 2 and 2 together...
Mills, he's just the whipping boy and it figures that he works for Hollywood!
Mahndisa: "Next, I am saddened by this utter bullshit on your blog. I contributed in some way to it but what I am seeing now is that there is beef between folks and the beefing has a history."
Mahndisa you continue to contribute to this bullshit with the statement-
"It truly takes a small person with not very much internal worth to use the internet as a weapon for insulting and degrading others."
But you don't stop here, you continue- "And I can understand if folks are provoked; believe me but at some point its probably best to leave the arguments alone."
So then PLEASE- leave it alone!
And DV what's up with your blog? One minute Submariner manages to get rid of BirdEye and now we're stuck with the idiot Thordaddy?
Submariner where are you?
Thordaddy- "In fact, white liberal groupthink affirms this white oppressive/black inferior paradigm. The question is why do you believe white liberals?"
And I guess somehow we cannot think for ourselves and we believe everything white (liberals) tell us. (roll of eyes)
Obama Chic
Obama Chic,
Maybe you missed this...
No doubt, blacks think at the individual level and of individual pursuits, but a large majority of American blacks share the same understood paradigm.-- thordaddy
Read before rant, child...
No thordaady- You read before you rant, child...
The reason why a large majority of American blacks share the same understood paradigm regarding racism- (if this is what you mean about white oppressor/black "inferior" paradigm) is because blacks are thinking/ rational people able to draw their own conclusions regardless of what white liberals think.
So your question "why do you believe white liberals?" is ridiculous.
Obama Chic,
So you are in full accord with the prevailing "racist" paradigm, but you are also an individual thinker?
Continue to put the bullseye on me and my own and only a white liberal or a black racist fool would think that was acceptable.
03 08 09
Obama Chic:
You are right. I have acted poorly in this regard. I should practice what I preach much better. Thanks for calling me on my own bullshit. Have a wonderful day.
You know anything about what I do or not do?
Only what you've written on the legendary Assault on Black Powerlessness blog, Fish.
I suppose you're making mad cake as a foreign currency trader. If so, though, why no follow-through with the Assault on Black Powerlessness... so that others can follow your road to riches?
Wasn't that what you were all about? Guerrilla economics? Practical warfare against white supremacy?
Whatever happened to the Assault on Black Powerlessness, Fish? Why'd you abandon it after a week or so?
Mills...
"Only what you've written on the legendary Assault on Black Powerlessness blog, Fish."
Well, in that case you don't know what I do or not do. Now if I did work as a foreign currency trader that would mean I got a job. Right? And since, based on the AOBP blog, you're assuming I do, what's all the "get a job" stuff about?
"Whatever happened to the Assault on Black Powerlessness, Fish? Why'd you abandon it after a week or so?"
The Blog initially was invitation only and, had it remained active would've remained invitation only. There wasn't enough interest from the invited participants, so after a year or so, I just opened it and left it at that.
Now, since you apparently measure a person's worth in accordance with whether they have a job or not, tell me Mills, do you have a job?
The occasional writing gig don't count.
Now if I did work as a foreign currency trader that would mean I got a job.
Nope. Gambling with your own money is not a job.
... tell me Mills, do you have a job?
Hells yeah! I'm the co-executive producer of "Treme." Cameras roll on Tuesday for the pilot.
The occasional writing gig don't count.
The hell you say? People giving me money to do work is called a JOB, fuckwit.
(By the way, it's a producing gig.)
Mills...
"
Nope. Gambling with your own money is not a job."
I guess you don't have any idea what currency trading is about.
"Hells yeah! I'm the co-executive producer of "Treme."
Ummm...
You're showing off with EXECUTIVE PRODUCER? Mills, please. For the benefit of the lay=folks here. An "executive producer" in the TV and movie industry does the following: Namely nothing. It's an honorary title. (Unless, of course you raised the money for the project). Now if you were the Producer, that would be a real job. Even a line producer.
Must be another David Simon project...
Is it?
For the benefit of the lay=folks here. An "executive producer" in the TV and movie industry does the following: Namely nothing. It's an honorary title.
You are so ignorant, Fish. So vastly, comically ignorant.
Treme is a David Simon project set in New Orleans and looking at the musical history of that area of the city.
He's been talking about since the Wire got ready to wrap up.
Mills...
"You are so ignorant, Fish. So vastly, comically ignorant."
Well, then be so kind and describe to the lay-folks here what exactly you, as co-executive producer do.
Like I said, if you didn't bring the money in (that is, handle the business questions) then co-executive producer is an honorary title.
Given that you didn't raise the money for the project (once again, it is a David Simon project) or handle any legal issues, then what exactly do you, as "a co-executive producer" do?
^ In series television, writers work their way up through levels of seniority... from story editor to executive story editory to co-producer to producer to supervising producer to co-executive producer to executive producer.
In series television, the creative boss -- the "showrunner" -- has the title of executive producer. There are two on "Treme": David Simon and Eric Overmyer. They wrote the pilot together.
So co-executive producer, in this case, means a senior-level writer/producer.
I contribute to the casting decisions; I go on location scouts and tech scouts; I'll split time with Simon and Overmyer as the writer on set during filming; and I'll go to New York to contribute to the editing and the sound mix.
All in all, a great job for a professional storyteller. You'll never know what it's like, Fish.
Mills...
"I contribute to the casting decisions; I go on location scouts and tech scouts; I'll split time with Simon and Overmyer as the writer on set during filming; and I'll go to New York to contribute to the editing and the sound mix."
Good. That's a job.
But it ain't "executive" producer, "co" or not.
"All in all, a great job for a professional storyteller. You'll never know what it's like, Fish."
That's very likely, I never had the desire or ambition to be a professional (or amateur) storyteller.
Now let's address the next question I raised.
If you are all that, how come you haven't broken out of Simon's orbit yet? After all you are in your 40s and, according to you as per your description of Nulan, a middle aged person with certain credentials, academic or otherwise is supposed to attained a certain level of accomplishments?
Given your supposition that the entertainment business is a meritocracy in which only the truly talented and hyper-intelligent raise to the top, why aren't you there as an autonomous, wealthy, producer-write? Why do you keep showing up on Simon's projects as a junior "co"?
...rise to the top...
But it ain't "executive" producer, "co" or not.
You ineducable moron... my onscreen credit will read "Co-Executive Producer."
Mills...
"my onscreen credit will read "Co-Executive Producer."
Mills, the tasks that you described are glorified assistant jobs. You not THE location scout you "go on location and tech scouts", your not THE editor and sound mixer, you "go to New York to contribute...", etc.
You're not in any decisive (executive) decision-making capacity.
Like you said, you got a JOB.
Under these circumstances, the "co-executive poducer" credit is a worthless honorary title. And you know it.
^ You'll never know what it's like, Fish.
Mills..
"You'll never know what it's like, Fish."
I know Mills. Only you will ever know whether Dave Simon wiped before or after.
Unless, of course you can answer this question:
"Now let's address the next question I raised.
If you are all that, how come you haven't broken out of Simon's orbit yet? After all you are in your 40s and, according to you as per your description of Nulan, a middle aged person with certain credentials, academic or otherwise is supposed to attained a certain level of accomplishments?
Given your supposition that the entertainment business is a meritocracy in which only the truly talented and hyper-intelligent raise to the top, why aren't you there as an autonomous, wealthy, producer-write? Why do you keep showing up on Simon's projects as a junior 'co'?"
Look at all this anti-intellectual b.s. spewed by supposed black "intellectuals."
This is a ruse and guise to hide the ugly truth about the majority of black American's underlying psychology. That underlying psychology is an invisible and seething hatred for anything symbolically "white" especially white people.
How this manifests itself in the real world is in a projection of this invisible, seething hatred onto whites.
In reality, these three jokers, Nulan, Mills and Fisher, are all working feverishly to embed the real existence of white supremacy.
Farst...
"That underlying psychology is an invisible and seething hatred for anything symbolically "white" especially white people.
How this manifests itself in the real world is in a projection of this invisible, seething hatred onto whites."
Now that's an interesting statement. What do you suppose is the reason for this alleged hatred?
Fisher,
It's mainly based on a false premise. The same premise used to rationalize Affirmative Action. The false premise is that blacks of today suffer equally to blacks of yesteryear and therefore are entitled to collevtive compensation.
Who they collect from and for how long isn't given much discussion.
Farst...
"It's mainly based on a false premise..."
While that premise you are citing is quite disputable, that's an interesting statement, too. What do you suppose is the reason that "blacks of today" have adopted this "premise"?
Fisher,
It all depends whether you believe we are descended from God or ape?
What do believe?
Farst...
"It all depends whether you believe we are descended from God or ape?"
That's a false dichotomy. We're not descendant from modern apes nor from God.
What's the point of the question?
Fisher,
Don't ask me a question if you already have the answer.
You asked me where the false premise of American blacks equating their suffering and oppression to that of black slaves derived from and I told you that I need to know where the particular black man stands in his fundamental beliefs.
So step up, and even if you are not black, you can certainly give a speculative answer. In fact, you have implied that you are aware of where such a false premise derives...
So from where does it derive, Fisher?
Farst...
"In fact, you have implied that you are aware of where such a false premise derives..."
I have done no such thing. I said that your premise that black folks function in accordance with a premise that blacks of today suffer equally to blacks of yesteryear, is itself disputable. Why? Because it ain't so.
However, given your theory, you must have come up with a reason why black folks supposedly operate on this premise that you attribute to them. So what is it?
Fisher,
How does one converse with a radical autonomist?
You claim you are not black, biologically-speaking.
You say a global system of white supremacy exists, but it is really a figment of some people's imagination. These people call themselves "white" and are under an illusion.
Now you claim that "blacks," as understood in the best fashion one can understand in arguing with a radical autonomist, can't be generally divided in to those that believe in a Creator and those that believe in Modern Evolutionary Theory (I understand the inaccuracy of claiming descent from apes, but the larger point is that we're descended from a glob of chemicals).
In addition, you claim that my disputable assertion is, in fact, completely deniable. Yet, it is only logical to infer that those that perceive their subjugation and oppression would seeth with hatred for those that they perceive oppress and subjugate them.
But what is the fact of the matter, Fisher?
Does White supremacy and black subjugation exist? And how did you escape...? By claiming to be NOT black?
Farst, your gobbledygook does not an argument make. By the way, what a "radical autonomist"?
Fisher,
A radical autonomist is a black man who says he's not black.
A radical autonomist is a person who claims the existence of a global system of white supremacy and then says it's but an illusion that he has escaped.
A radical autonomist is one that claims it's a false dichotomy to divide blacks in to the general categories of believers in a Creator and believers in descent with modification and then suggests that this information is irrelevant in determining why blacks of today believe they suffer equally to blacks of yesterday.
A radical autonomist claims an assertion disputable and then without any substantiation of that claim, declares it absolutely false.
Step up Fisher and defend your ways... Tell me the motivating mechanism for AA... Tell me that a majority of blacks don't believe in your global system of white supremacy... Tell me of the consequences of such beliefs... And finally, YOU tell me how blacks came to think this way, since clearly, they were first on the scene?
"In the meantime, fuck that asshole. He hasn't accomplished shit with his M.I.T. degree, he has no income at the age of 45, and he's relying on his wife to feed his kids by selling real estate... a waste of her own impressive U.Mass. degree."
Ok, green question time. Do you guys know each other in real life? Because you seem to know a whole helluva lot about each other. How? Just curious...
"A radical autonomist is a black man who says he's not black.
A radical autonomist is a person who claims the existence of a global system of white supremacy and then says it's but an illusion that he has escaped."
In scientific terms, black is an abstract concept with little to no tangible, utilitarian purpose. Geneticists have yet to discover a black gene, or a white gene, simply put because they do not exist. So in those terms, no he isn't a black man. It is an asinine label as liberally assigned to people whose skin tones are as dark as mines to those as melanin deficient as your own. So what true purpose, classification wise, does it serve?
Being black is however the label that society assigns to him. He is as much a black man as a red balloon is red. It is simply because people say it is. So that's the easiest cognitive thoroughfare, so to speak, that he could use to refer to himself. (After all, if he were to take that aforementioned rubber sphere and refer to it as green, or in a mad fit of Aristotlean glee designate it any name of his choosing, the end result would only be mad stares and agape jowls-- or vice versa.) Or in layman's terms, and Mike do correct me if i'm wrong, he's assuming the label simply for the sake of argument and/or as a point of reference. ("I'm what society might consider black, but I don't agree with the label." that is to say.)
On the flipside though, why is it so essential for you to cast him as black? I can't help but think it's probably exactly the same reason he shuns the label. Natch.
The Doc,
If science is somehow the measure of what is ultimately true or not true then provide the science that shows "society assigns to him" the black label?
Right now, the science says that "black" man was first on the scene and so it makes sense to think that "black" man also devised the earliest distinctions between races, no? Or, is it your contention that "black" man just missed these differences all together?
I knew that radical autonomy stuff was a sham.
And I don't know ANY black people who think that black people today suffer the same as our ancestors.
We would have to be pretty stupid to think our situation today is equivalent to slavery or the dehumanizing period period before the basic human rights of blacks were recognized.
That whole premise is some complete and utter BS. There is no proof of that.
Big Man,
Again, you delude yourself. I agree, radical autonomy is a sham because it destroys any way of understanding the real Truth. That's why you can keep insisting that Obama is a real Christian even as he claims his belief in a woman's fundamental right to kill her child in utero. It's a sham and so is your radical autonomist mindset on this issue.
If AA WASN'T premised on what I say then where is the discussion of the end game? Why do we not know conceptually what a "level playing field" looks like? How come the charge of "racism" is becoming increasingly encompassing in definition? Why do blacks claim to live in a wretched system that they have obviously escaped?
I agree, it is beyond absurd for blacks of today to claim that they suffer equally to blacks of yesterday. But, it is equally as absurd for blacks of today to claim an entitled compensation for the suffering of their ancestory to be paid by both the white descendants AND white non-descendants of those guilty of injustices.
You say you're entitled to the compensation equal to the suffering of your ancestors and it is to be collected from those farthest removed from the actual injustice. You say this with no end game in sight and then have the temerity to claim that AA ISN'T premised on exactly what I say it is?
What is AA premised on then???
"If science is somehow the measure of what is ultimately true or not true then provide the science that shows "society assigns to him" the black label?"
www.census.gov.
...
Or, y'know, just walking outside his front door every day. Either or.
Seriously, Thor, your reasoning skills would give Bill "That depends on what your definition of the word 'is' is" Clinton a run for his money. Are you studying law right now? If so, why the hell not, man? Yeesh.
And Mike, i'm not trying to be your standard bearer here, and I assure you i'll back away from such after this one. But... heh... y'know... as Dubya sez, I saddled this here hoss, so now i've got ta ride it.
Doc,
It really doesn't matter whether Fisher thinks he's black or not, he still can't explain his inexplicable passion for all things African. But wait, how do I distinguish Fisher's real passion which is really only for the "darker" side of Africa? How do explain this phenomenon from not a "black" man?
But I digress, the census isn't society, is it?
But you still didn't answer the question?
What is AA premised on if not on what I say?
Doc...
"And Mike, i'm not trying to be your..."
Trying to have a rational discussion with Farst is a waste of time, Doc. He done made me miss Byrdeye.
Aight check this out. David mills' EP status is a pretty impressive title. That can't be argued. It's not an honorary title Mr Fisher but I got love for all three of you all but my question is this.... Is Mills Black and if so how can a Black man argue that Blacks are inferior?
Fisher,
You still won't tell us whether "white supremacy" really exists or whether your Global System of White Supremacy theory predicted the election of a "black" president by a large swath of "white" folks?
C'mon Fisher, why are you so cowardly in answering these straightforward questions? There isn't any excuse other than your fear of where a definitive answer might have to take you.
You can understand EXACTLY what I'm asking...
Does "white supremacy" exists?
Mills what are you????????? What is your "race"????? Please don't be trivial.
Thor
I didn't say any of those things.
So, why are you putting words in my mouth?
I guess it's easier to debate against arguments you create on your own.
By the way, I'm still waiting for you to explain the biblical reasons why you want certain sins outlawed and not others.
Thor
I didn't say any of those things.
So, why are you putting words in my mouth?
I guess it's easier to debate against arguments you create on your own.
By the way, I'm still waiting for you to explain the biblical reasons why you want certain sins outlawed and not others.
Big Man,
You accuse me of that which you are guilty.
Tell me what YOU think AA is premised on if it is not premised on what I say? Not one person has stepped up to offer their understood premise for AA.
Secondly, I've said nothing about outlawing anything. All I've asked, and apparently you refuse to answer, is whether Barack Obama can be a real Christian AND a professed abortion advocate.
I say he can't and you seem to imply he can? Therefore, your understanding is either flawed or you're embracing a radical autonomy theory that allows one to hold contradictory beliefs.
Just end all the speculation and tell me what YOU THINK?
Is Mills Black and if so how can a Black man argue that Blacks are inferior?
Yes, PST, Mills is black... and I don't argue that blacks are "inferior."
Fisher keeps claiming that I do because he's dishonest and he's not very bright.
Mills...
"I don't argue that blacks are 'inferior.'"
Interesting turn-around.
In that case, Mills, if "blacks" are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that "blacks" are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to "whites", that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, etc.?
"Turn-around" my ass.
Since you're the one making the claim, Fish, why don't you point out where I've stated that "black people are inferior."
I've put up nearly 2,000 posts on my blog. I've commented at length on numerous other blogs, including yours.
If you cannot point to where I've stated that "black people are inferior," then that would mean you're a liar. Correct, Fish?
And as long as the record shows you to be a liar, you lack standing to address me in good faith. That makes sense, wouldn't you agree?
Mills...
"Turn-around" my ass."
Whatever, Mr. "Citing-Bell-Curve-That-'Blacks'-Have-A-Lower-IQ-Than-Anyone-Else". That still leaves the question:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to "whites", that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, etc.?"
So what's the answer?
^ Fuck you and your questions, asshole... until you substantiate your bullshit claim that I argue that black people are "inferior."
Lying piece of shit...
Mills...
"until you substantiate your bullshit claim that I argue that black people are 'inferior.'"
These discussions on The Bell Curve and Watson here are just one example...
You, Mills begin:
"Jump to 'The Bell Curve.' Like a lot of thoughtful people, I followed that controversy closely. Particularly the many rebuttal essays published in Commentary and The New Republic.
It was the unpersuasiveness of those rebuttals which impacted me. I was like, 'Shit... they didn’t knock it down at all.' I was rooting for them to. But they didn’t."
...and you, Mills,conclude on that post as thus...
"So, you see, even an experiment designed to show the impact of environmental factors on intelligence took for granted that cognitive potential – 'brightness' or 'dullness' – is heritable. It’s in the genes."
Elsewhere such as here you comment discussing The Bell Curve and Watson:
"...Watson was talking about intelligence as a group characteristic.
If we can agree that "intelligence" is something real and quantifiable (and I'm still not sure why we can't)... then wouldn't it make sense that a society where the average IQ of the population is 90, and a society where the average IQ is 100, and a society where the average IQ is 110, would be different kinds of societies? For instance, in terms of technological advancement?"
"It takes the intelligence not only of one individual but of a population in order to, for instance, build and maintain an electrical-power infrastructure... or an effective health-care system."
... and thus, you, Mills, favorably adopt the basic premise of the Bell Curve. Once again:
"the average IQ of the population is 90, and a society where the average IQ is 100, and a society where the average IQ is 110"
...as applied by them (and Watson) to "whites" and "blacks" and say that this IQ is inherited:
Mills...
"'brightness' or 'dullness' – is heritable. It’s in the genes."
Again. You made THAT last statement in the context of defending the "group (racial) intelligence" notions put forward in The Bell Curve.
Case closed.
Ok. Since I done fulfilled your requirement, please answer the question posed:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to "whites", that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, etc.?"
^ You didn't fulfill a damn thing, dumbfuck. Where in anything you quoted do I state that black people are "inferior"?
In fact, where in anything I've ever written do I declare any human subgroups "superior" or "inferior"?
Again, Michael... fuck your lying ass.
Mills...
"Michael... fuck your lying ass."
Mills. You can try to cuss and insult your way out of this all you want. However, you stated what you stated.
"In fact, where in anything I've ever written do I declare any human subgroups 'superior' or 'inferior'?"
Mills, you're a relatively sophisticated white racist. Once again, however, you stated what you stated.
Your basic premise is that European civilization is at a level that can never in the future be attained by such people as those of Zimbabwe and other Africans because of the intellectual development of Europeans.
(Mills: "Zimbabwe will never be -- and could never be -- what England is. It doesn't have the history of intellectual and economic development.")
Such development having crystallized itself in "literacy" which "literacy" was supposedly completely lacking among "blacks" of Africa. Which again you connect to the notion of IQ levels not AMONG but OF population groups. Thus you are fond to recite the IQ levels of "Asians", "Whites" (or "Europeans"), "Arabs", and "Blacks" (or "Africans").
To give your reciting of such IQ levels OF (rater than "among") these population groups (which groups you have never been actually ever to define), "scientific" cover, you favorably, again, and again, cite The Bell Curve and it's depiction of the "IQ levels of racial populations".
You then conclude with the sentence:
"It’s in the genes."
... and have and continue to be vehemently opposed the rational argument that a genetic source of IQ levels OF groups categorized into racial notions such as "blacks", "whites", "Africans", "Asians" is logically impossible.
Now, Mills, lay your "I ain't talking to lyin' ass Michael" avoidance tactic aside and finally answer this question please:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to "whites", that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, etc.?"
What have I stated that is wrong, fuckstain? You think Zimbabwe's gonna land a probe on Mars any time soon? Zimbabwe doesn't even have a functioning currency anymore. Citizens are having to dig for gold in order to purchase a loaf of bread... that's the literal truth.
What offends you about my making the rather obvious observation that the African peoples who constitute the Zimbabwean population never developed an alphabet? How in the hell do you imagine that a pre-literate culture can compete with Chinese, Arabs and Western Europeans in the global economy?
What have I stated that is wrong? That "dullness" and "brightness" among laboratory mice is heritable?
Oh, and just for the record... you're now acknowledging that I've never described any human subgroup as "inferior," right?
Mills...
"That 'dullness' and 'brightness' among laboratory mice is heritable?"
Oh, you devoted 11 paragraphs of text about the 'dullness' and 'brightness'laboratory mice experiment in the middle of a discussion of human group IQ inheritability to solely make a point about the heritability of "dullness" and "brightness" among laboratory mice? My bad.
"...you're now acknowledging that I've never described any human subgroup as "inferior," right?"
Nope. Because you have. In the same way that David Duke et al do it today. Like I said, your statements quoted up-thread speak for themselves.
"What have I stated that is wrong, fuckstain? You think Zimbabwe's gonna land a probe on Mars any time soon?"
Has the UK ever landed a Mars probe, Mills?
The point is that you have stated that "Zimbabwe will never be -- and could never be..."
Because of what, Mills? Because of past illiteracy? Why is that?
In any case, once again:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to "whites", that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, etc.?"
Thus you are fond to recite the IQ levels of "Asians", "Whites" (or "Europeans"), "Arabs", and "Blacks" (or "Africans").
And again you lie, you lying fuck.
Where have I ever "recited the IQ levels" of any population?
Nowhere.
Michael, you have proven yourself to be serially incapable of understanding what I write. Either that, or you're so wholly dishonest that you choose to distort what I've written... because you find it much more to your liking to debate straw men.
The point is that you have stated that "Zimbabwe will never be -- and could never be..."
Because of what, Mills? Because of past illiteracy?
Not quite, dickhole. But close. Because of the lack of a literate tradition... and the consequent lack of a high cultural value placed on book-learnin'.
Zimbabwe, in 29 years of independence, still doesn't have a national library service. The nation relies on book donations from foreigners to even begin to build a culture of literacy.
Presented with a reality such as that, you can resort to nothing more than your comical GSWS theory.
You're a waste of time, Fish.
Mills...
"Where have I ever 'recited the IQ levels' of any population?"
I see. So now you maintain that you never cited the "fact" that "Asians" on the average have a higher IQ level than "whites", who in turn on the average have a higher IQ level than "blacks"?
"Because of the lack of a literate tradition... and the consequent lack of a high cultural value placed on book-learnin'."
Fine then. Let's include that.
Thus if you would please answer this question:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to 'whites', that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, and that African countries such as Zimbabwe despite 29 years and more of independence still lack of a literate tradition... and the consequent lack of a high cultural value placed on book-learnin'.etc.?"
^ Intriguing question. I think that needs to be studied.
^ And don't forget the crazy high incidence of traffic fatalities and airplane crashes.
Mills...
"Intriguing question. I think that needs to be studied."
What a cowardly statement.
^ And yet much more honest than your GSWS hustle.
Mills...
"And yet much more honest than your GSWS hustle."
Well, Mills, you can easily disprove any "GSWS hustle" by answering the following question:
"If 'blacks' are not mentally inferior to whites, what accounts for the global phenomenon that 'blacks' are, on the average, less or not at all successful compared to 'whites', that criminal activities are more rampant in black communities, that governments in Africa end to be highly inefficient and retarding, and that African countries such as Zimbabwe despite 29 years and more of independence still lack of a literate tradition... and the consequent lack of a high cultural value placed on book-learnin'.etc.?"
Well, Mills, you can easily disprove any "GSWS hustle" by answering the following question:
One can't disprove a delusion, Fish.
Ok, Mills. I'll make it even easier for you. Here's one of your co-religionists, Prof. Philippe Rushton of the University of Ontario.
You agree with him?
^ Fish, why don't you just chill and wait for a few years and see what genomic researchers learn about the nexus between intelligence and heredity?
Our jaw-jacking won't amount to a hill of beans once the science reveals yields its results.
Mills...
"Our jaw-jacking won't amount to a hill of beans once the science reveals yields its results."
Well, unless you've got the IQ of an "11 year old European", that is, "an adult black African" (namely 70) you ought to be able to spot the fallacious elements of the dear Professor's presentation right away.
So, tell, what exactly IS your IQ?
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