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"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."
Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider - founder Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
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Were We All Kunta Kinte? Or Are We Also Mansa Musa?
Barry Goldwater 1909-1998
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. "
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad
"It Is Easier To Change A Man's Religion Than It Is To Change His Diet"
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IS THIS LITTLE GUY A PERSON?
The founders of the American state understood that the proper functioning of a democracy required an educated electorate. It is this understanding that justifies a system of public education and that led slaveholders to resist the spread of literacy among their chattels. But the meaning of "educated" has changed beyond recognition in two hundred years. Reading, writing, and arithmetic are no longer sufficient to decide on public policy. Now we need quantum mechanics and molecular biology. The knowledge required for political rationality, once available to the masses, is now in the possession of a specially educated elite, a situation that creates a series of tensions and contradictions in the operation of representative democracy.
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. P
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Louis Pasteur
"The Microbe is nothing. The terrain is everything."
Beverly Johnson. Beverly Hills. 1978
"Bra! Tell Me About It!"
"Most of the trouble I have had in advancing the cause of the race has come from Negroes."
Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the The McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '
"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
Lord Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science On Society (Routledge Press: New York, 1951).
"At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars.. War has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full. The state of affairs might be unpleasant, but what of it?"
Denmark Vesey For President 08
1. Troops Out Of Iraq Immediately. Like By Monday. 2. Money Owed To Haliburton and War Contractors Be Given Directly To The Iraqi People 3. Complete Electoral Reform 4. No Corporate Conglomerate Will Be Allowed To Control More Than 5% Of News Market 5. Federal Reserve Abolished 6. For-Profit Prison Industry Abolished
*George Orwell (1903-1950) English novelist, critic
Men can only be happy when they do not assume that the object of life is happiness... If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... The great enemy of clear language is insincerity... The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it... To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle... For a creative writer possession of the truth is less important than emotional sincerity.
“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society will be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values.” – Zbigniew Brzezinski
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Gordon Parks 1912-2006
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Great Grandmother Harris
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My man David been busy this past week or so. Not to say instigating or nothing, but a most promising thread on violence broke out at P6 a few days back and when strongly challenged on his focus and his assertions on that thread here's what brougham had to say:
^ Whatever, newsoulus. If you don't think black people should be "criticized" for committing half of all murders in the United States, I'm sorry. But VIOLENCE has much to do with why the poor stay poor... from the dysfunction of inner-city schools to the lack of merchants in black neighborhood.
David withdrew from that discussion when it got deep. Frankly, I'd like to see some of this deeper discursive probing persist until clarification of the underlying POV is obtained.
One of my very favorite online commentators JRMaclean had this to say;
UBC: Given that, as I've stated, black folks commit seven times as many murders per capita as white folks (and, in recent years, sometimes eight times as many), I'm obviously talking about a culture of violence in Black America.
This doesn't seem correct. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the latest data suggests about a 5:1 ratio of homicides by perpetrator. However, please note that we are talking about a very small share of the total number of homicides commited by Usonians. Typically the number of domestic homicides in the USA each year is about 20-25,000 (between 1975-2005; Ibid.). I'm too busy to get an exact count,, but this amounts to about a quarter million people between 1995 and 2005.
However, the invasion of Iraq alone (2003-present) includes another 1.2 million homicides. The actual perpetrator in this case consists of a White power structure capable of deploying and compelling soldiers to kill en masse. While the Iraq bloodbath is of extraordinary size, please recall it follows a number of White power-motivated acts of mayhem in which the Usonian White population played a ststistically ambiguous role (e.g., what percentage of the Guatemalan dead between 1953-1986 was the responsibility of White Usonians? of White Guatemalans?)
Nor is can this be dismissed as wordplay. Speaking as a White person, I have to confess there is a definite alacrity among many Whites (including my former self) to inflict violence and cheer it on with little provocation. There really is a dangerous culture of White violence in the USA that, on a per capita basis, is involved in about 3x as many homicides as Blacks.
ooooh. I like this cat CNu.
genocide is murder aint it?
what's more homicidal than launching a Patriot Missile?
What's more homicidal than giving Israelis billions in weapons?
Sorry bout the jack, mebbe there's some or another way to associate it with the Bart killing. Like why these popo always got folk face down with a knee on their head or neck nowadays and weapons fully drawn?
But it seems to me that now we're getting down to the kernel of western civilization itself, aren't we?
Expounding on Barrett's most interesting notion about the true nature of civilization;
Sycophants revel in their programming. The brainwashing the psychopathic entities have administered to American sycophants since a very young age, has them proudly waving the flag of their nation as "the greatest country on Earth," while vociferously avoiding real world facts: Theirs is a nation built on corruption at all levels.
• Mass-murder is our international policy.
• Enforcement of psychopathic edicts by gun and incarceration are standard procedures at home.
• Endless taxation and regulation are the benevolent side of the U.S. psychopathocracy.
The sycophants kiss up to the images the psychopaths have planted in their minds. With servile devotion, sycophants reach for the handouts from their masters, oblivious to the source of the presumed benefits.
"definite alacrity among many Whites (including my former self) to inflict violence and cheer it on with little provocation"
Only when manipulated by bloodsucking schmucks...
Anglos are the goyim puppet, not the hidden hand up their ass. Remove the hand, and the puppet is content to simply drink beer and watch sports 99% of the time.
My specific objection with David, is that given he has enjoyed a lengthy career as a professional narratizer, both journalistic and fictitious, how can he on the one hand create narratives that absolutely glamorize and romanticize violence - and then on the other hand - decry some of the largely professional and contained violence that he himself has made a living elevating and extolling?
There's also the small matter of how much concern he's expressed over an ambiguously image of violence perpetrated against a child, but no corresponding criticism or condemnation of those who perpetrated said industrial scale psychopathology against the child and her peeples.
Taken all together, brah man's recent commentary paints a very curious picture indeed....,
Turdeye, get back to the little folding table in the den and quietly eat your pudding.
Grown folks are conversing here and your chindribble is of no value whatsoever...,
01 09 09
Hey DV and Craig:
Craig, you didn't jack the thread because the shifty ideology of the ignorant folk to whom you refer justify this lunacy!
There is not one iota of justification for this act of police brutality. I guarantee that if the BART board and courts don't do this man justice, there will be more riots. But this time, negroes ain't gonna mess up their own neighborhoods; they will burn down the town. So for that reason, justice better be served soon!
I hail from East Oakland, CA and Modesto, CA. I spent half of my life in each locale and I have intimate dealings with the psychology of both places.
When Rodney King was brutally beaten, kids in Modesto were justifying the act by saying that he was belligerant and needed to be subdued. Yeah right. When Reginald Denny got his ass whipped, angry black kids were saying he deserved it. It wasn't that long ago either.
We are sitting on a tinderbox.
Hey Mahndisa.
I grew up around Lake Merritt myself. Never encountered the legendary racism particular to the bay because I was too young, but it's reputation precedes it.
However, let's all be honest here.
Is what happened in the video a product of racism?
Had the cop been black too, would there be riots?
Young Nigerians are killed by Nigerian cops all the time. Young Jamaican men are killed by Jamaican cops like it's a sport.
German cops accidentally shoot young Bavarians. Accidental shootings is what happens when we maintain professional police forces.
I think the problem is not race, but For Profit policing ... and ... young people who can't control themselves.
What are the cops supposed to do, let them brawl on the BART?
Just by the numbers, if the cops break up 1,000 fights, somebody is going to get shot.
01 09 09
For profit policing is not ever a good idea. Private policing can be a good thing, however. As to the issue of race being a factor, yes it is! Nigerian argument is irrelevant. If it was a Black cop, I am sure there would still be riots because police brutality has always been an issue in Oakland. For a while, it seemed like reports of such things had diminished a bit, but here we go again.
The last time I rode BART was on December the second of last year. There were armed police officers who weren't rent a cops but from the OPD. I once got hassled by one myself!
Invisible Woman talking about the OPD/BART problem.
The thin blue line would get thinned some more if this type-a-shyte happened out this way.
80/20 rule... the planet ain't perfect. DV you raise a great point. AA's kill AA's over 90% of the time in the states. But some only get foamed at the mouth when it's 10% of the time.
What gives?
I wish some videos would get posted of the 22 black people (on average) murdered every day in this country by other black folks.
Perhaps then, CNulan might bring his rhetorical gifts to bear on that problem... and quit pretending that the rare death-by-cop is a greater threat to peace and prosperity than the high rate of lethal criminal violence that has characterized Black America for decades.
By the by, Craig... I took my leave of P6's blog after he made abundantly clear that my line of inquiry was unwelcome, and that I should kick rocks.
Why would I reward such inhospitability with more of my time and mental energies?
This joint here, though? Sheeeeit... I can see myself flexin' up in this muthafucka.
Alas, I've got to catch a plane tomorrow morning. Till then... I'll be your huckleberry.
David, your nose is gonna grow longer if you perpetrate whoppers like that. As one who's actually been banned from P6, for rhetorical harshness and incivility, I can assure you that you are more than welcome to make your case there, the fact of the matter is that you know good and well that you'll be summarily dissected and ridiculed for the weak-assed case at your disposal.
In theory (cause it's never happened to me in practice) I can understand your rational self-interest in avoiding a highly public logical and factual woodshedding. I can assure you that at P6, the woodshedding would be dispassionate, whereas you know that if you enter the woodshed with yours truly, here, there, or anywhere, I'ma straight dispatch that azz and clown like there's no tomorrow too.
So where is my case weak? Are you saying black people don't commit half of all homicides in the United States?
Are you saying that roughly 8,000 black people aren't murdered in a given year by other black folks?
Are you suggesting that such a bloody state of affairs isn't the consequence of a cultural dysfunction that needs to be dealt with?
Where, specifically, do you take issue with me?
... how can he on the one hand create narratives that absolutely glamorize and romanticize violence...
I know your purpose was to try scoring a cheap-'n'-easy debating point, Craig... not to invite a deep discourse on the ethics of fictionalizing violence.
But I must say, as one who takes storytelling quite seriously, that with "Kingpin" I did more than dole out free skin-pops of artfully staged gun violence.
I was mindful to present such violence as morally and emotionally consequential. Which, rather than "romanticizing" such violence, actually has a chance of feeding the soul.
As one who's actually been banned from P6, for rhetorical harshness and incivility, I can assure you that you are more than welcome to make your case there...
Fuck all bullshit. Here's an example of how P6 makes one feel "more than welcome":
"You got a blog...I wouldn't try to change your topics. You, on the other hand, are trying to change mine, and that will NEVER work. I'll just ignore you."
"I wasn't discussing homocide rates at all. Feel free to talk about it in your space...I will refer all interested parties to you."
"You guys who say good bye and don't leave crack me up."
If you don't read things closely, Craig, how are we to carry on a conversation?
David, chillax magne.
This is 2009, not 2007. We can do this with equanimity.
The simple fact of the matter is that when wrong is THIS wrong, I'm much harder pressed not to clown than my elders and betters at the Promethean watering hole.
My position hasn't changed a micron since we first dusted this off at blackprof.com in 2007.
The source of disproportional violence in the hood is the retail drug trade. The overwhelming majority of that violence is not directed toward civilians, rather, at the participants in the trade who you've serially romanticized. (soul food or not...,)
That said, even worst case, the domestic American hood retail drug trade doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of violence perpetrated by criminal gangs in numerous cultures outside the U.S., (yes, I'm saying my homegrown bredren are exceedingly tame on an objective human scale) and moreover, that if utterly failed drug prohibition were lifted tomorrow, that paltry little bump in violence would go away fairly quickly.
Next, elevated levels of violence are so abnormal for humans, that you can be reasonably well assured that where it seems to have taken hold, there are some unchanneled psychopaths at work. Typically, the military sponges up and channels the proclivities of psychopaths, but that mechanism is not much in place in the hood in America.
Dopamine hegemony can ritualize military mass murder, and make it acceptable and legitimate, but it can't even begin to compete with you master storytellers who've romanticized that isht and made it everything a young boy wants to be, much as Audie Murphy and John Wayne and them mofos were able to do around the wild west, WW-II, etc., etc., etc.,
Lastly, as my man the uber-historian james r. maclean began dropping on you over at P6 before you fled the scene, the culture of violence in white america is actually some indeterminate multiple more murderously prolific than any other in the U.S. - that activity just gets legitimated and unreported or under reported.
Dood, I been bumping heads with Earl for at least 6-7 years and that's just his way of keeping the discussion very tightly focused on topic.
I wouldn't adhere to his rules and I did my usual corn-pressing and messed with his composure a few too many times. We still have much respect and it actually works better for me and for his style of presentation for him to moderate my comments because there's just no telling when I'll pull out the straight razor or shank and go to work ugly and close in.
bottomline, it's not that you're unwelcome there, it's just that he's not about to let any threadjacking take place and he's a stickler for logical orthodoxy.
in introducing what you sought to introduce, you did in fact seek to change the subject.
in introducing what you sought to introduce, you did in fact seek to change the subject.
And so I departed. Don't make it about any presumed aversion on my part to lacing up and throwing. You should know by now that I can go the full 15.
My position hasn't changed a micron since we first dusted this off at blackprof.com in 2007.
If all you wanted to do was repeat yourself, why'd you call for "deeper discursive probing" here?
Evidently you find the current degree of lethal violence in Black America tolerable. What's to talk about?
"Are you suggesting that such a bloody state of affairs isn't the consequence of a cultural dysfunction that needs to be dealt with?" UBM
Damn good question.
I think it's a problem of Group Identity dysfunction.
The characterization of 8000 people murdered and the characterization of the murderers as simply "black" is shamefully misdirected.
The projection of dysfunction upon the entire black culture because of the deeds of a few who happen to be black is intellectual laziness.
Bra Undercover, if someone suggested there was cultural dysfunction among Jews because of the preponderance of Jews involved in financial fraud, I suspect you would pop a vein in your forehead.
Why do you fail to grant black people the same benefit of the doubt you grant Jews?
If all you wanted to do was repeat yourself, why'd you call for "deeper discursive probing" here?
I've never ceased being correct David. In fact, I became passively a little more correct after the round of comments at P6.
That said, I'm still intensely curious how you can cling to such an obviously counterfactual point of view, and one which imputes exceptional culpability to Black folks in comparison with other folks?
Frankly, I find your views on "Black" crime even more peculiar than your views on Black intelligence. I'm not mad at you David, I'm just curious about the logic you employ to reconcile such views into an internally consistent whole.
The characterization of 8000 people murdered and the characterization of the murderers as simply "black" is shamefully misdirected.
How ought they be characterized?
Why do you fail to grant black people the same benefit of the doubt you grant Jews?
Please provide data (beyond the anecdotal) on the preponderance of Jews involved in financial fraud. Then we'd be better able to discuss whether Jewish ethics might be determinative or contributory factors.
... how you can cling to such an obviously counterfactual point of view...
You have yet to point out anything "counterfactual" -- let alone "obviously" so -- in what I've stated.
What's obvious is the data showing that black folks commit more than half of all homicides in the U.S. ... and nearly half of all robberies and rape/sexual assaults.
What's also obvious is how this degree of violent crime determines the quality of life in many black neighborhoods.
How ought they be characterized?
Drug addicts
Drug dealers
Spiritually bankrupt
Secular fanatics
Insane
Underemployed
Overly armed
Poorly educated
Low class
Consumers of thousands of hours of TV violence
"...the preponderance of Jews involved in financial fraud." UBM
lololololroflmao
Good One.
history, politics, economics, white flight, riots, Black managerial and professional relocation, marketing, and prohibition have all acted so as to determine the demographic and socio-economic make up of poor Black neighborhoods.
Specifically, a milieu dominated by young men with few economic prospects embedded in a national culture which places a premium on violence, materialism, and has the most liberal gun laws in the developed world.
Crime is one of many symptoms of a poor quality of life when taken in context. It's hardly determinative of that quality of life. In the specific case of determinative negative factors in the poor Black community, the primary cause of crime and violence is the American drug prohibition.
Crime is one of many symptoms of a poor quality of life when taken in context. It's hardly determinative of that quality of life.
Violent crime is determinative of such things as where merchants and restaurants decide to locate, which public schools are to be avoided (by those who are able to), and one's sense of safety in being outdoors at night.
The prevalence of violent crime also tends to diminish the value of one's property (if you're a property owner).
Add it all up, this explains the "Black managerial and professional relocation" to which you alluded so clinically.
I happen to believe (without having devoted my waking life to researching it) that violent crime has done more to reshape American urban demography over the past 40 years than anything else.
^ I meant to say "demographics," not demography.
I happen to believe (without having devoted my waking life to researching it) that violent crime has done more to reshape American urban demography over the past 40 years than anything else.
A pair of immediately obvious ahistorical blindspots are evident in your summary assessment of factors reshaping urban demographics.
1. The civil rights act of 1968 aka The Fair Housing Act
2. Grodzin's Tipping Point
If you add these massively destabilizing precedents to the underpinnings of your belief, then you will have at least ascertained those factors giving rise to the vulnerability of the social order in poor Black neighborhoods to the factors unleashed during the Reagan administration when crass materialism became the order of the day and mass quantities of cocaine and weapons were introduced into the urban core.
The hood in 1981 didn't have very much economic opportunity, but it did retain an intact social order.
The hood in 1991 had still less economic opportunity and the social order had been seriously, seriously injured and a new social order by young men and for young men had been installed in its place.
The hood in 1981 didn't have very much economic opportunity, but it did retain an intact social order.
Only problem with that statement, Craig, is that in 1976 -- before the Era of Reagan 'n' Crack -- the homicide offending rate among black folks was nine times higher than among whites. A larger disproportion than exists today.
Which means that, on a per capita basis, there were nine times as many black murderers as white.
The Fair Housing Act was cool. But it did not create the desire within the black middle class to flee the violence, crime and stress that comes with living amongst the black urban poor.
Perhaps you can quantify and contextualize what you've said above so that it supports your contention that it was causal. Take your time. It was a good sound byte David, a typical Manhattan Institute riposte, but by no means convincing as a demonstrable causal factor.
With no further exploration, I'd be willing to bet that the seven year emigration of Black managerial and professional class folks out of the apartheid segregation in place until 1968, i.e., 1968-1976 did more to destabilize hoods than the epidemic of racial homicide you insist on pretending as causal.
The Fair Housing Act was cool. But it did not create the desire within the black middle class to flee the violence, crime and stress that comes with living amongst the black urban poor.
nah, ebony, jet, teevee and the movies created the desire for suburban and exurban greener grass. that's how dopamine hegemony works. It's why two decades of romanticizing urban retail narcotrafficante culture have had such a deleterious effect on folks current elective lifestyle proclivities.
Aw hell... TV and movies have destroyed the moral and economic structures within the black community?
You think the black middle class wanted to live in the suburbs because they saw it on "The Brady Bunch"? Or was it because they wanted their kids to go to a safe school? And they didn't want to live with iron bars around their first-story windows?
Rilly, Craig. Why'd you reopen this conversation? This is useless jaw-jacking. If this is what I would've had to look forward to at P6, I was wise to take the hint and exit stage left.
Dood, you're batting 1000.
1. First, you fled the scene at blackprof.com on this very topic
2. You fled the scene at P6 on this exact same topic
3. Once again, you're going to flee the scene rather than risk having the house of cards undergirding your dubious beliefs trivially dissected.
Why do you entertain beliefs susceptible to such trivial dismantlement that you durst never stay the course and defend those beliefs against factual and logical examination?
You think the black middle class wanted to live in the suburbs because they saw it on "The Brady Bunch"?
witnessed it with my very own eyes.
Or was it because they wanted their kids to go to a safe school? And they didn't want to live with iron bars around their first-story windows?
where I grew up in the 70's there were no safety concerns, but there was an entrenched belief that other folks grass was much, much greener and their ice much colder.
The real life version of the Wire in all its tawdry middle-class splendor....,
Blacks do commit far more violent street crime than any other groups due to their more typically r-gaming nature. This "live fast, breed a lot & die young" strategy is what produces Black slums all over the world - despite all other environmental factors. It's really that simple, folks. No big mystery here.
Now yes, there are also some Black K-gamers, but they are in the minority and never grow enough to reach a tipping point to shift the collective Black paradigm. R-gaming niggaz simply outnumber and outbreed them. Not to mention, liberal welfare policies support r-gaming by redistributing K-gaming wealth to them. Without a fair shot for people to reap what they sow, the scales thus tip in favor of r-gamers.
So, when any of these pro-K-gaming contrarians (Bill Cosby, UBM?) advocate "ditching the crutch to strengthen the leg," they get vehemently silenced and ostracized by the r-gaming majority happily relying on said crutches. It's like trying to snatch a sucker away from a baby!
Anyhow, until pro-K-gaming memes and genes gain more traction amongst Blacks to reach a minimal critical mass...they will forever be stuck in their status quo r-gaming mode all over the world. Liberal "progress" in the Black community will continue as usual since the Jewish Power Movement of the 60s. Maybe the single baby mama rate can hit a full 100% in another decade?! Sky's the limit, folks! :D
Liberal welfare policies amount to "letting r-gamers reap what K-gamers sow."
With this artificial constraint in place, is it any wonder why the US (and Black subculture in particular) has been shifting more and more towards r-gaming?
Why bust your ass K-gaming when the Feds will just redistribute your wealth to the r-gaming thug with 7 kids and 5 baby mamas down the street anyways?
The US has now reaped what it sowed - with all its Jewish pro-r-gaming policies over the last 1/2 century. Massive surges in broken families, slums, daddyless gang members, crime, deficit and outsourcing to K-gaming societies. Face it, we got pwned. Checkmate, game over!
3. Once again, you're going to flee the scene rather than risk having the house of cards undergirding your dubious beliefs trivially dissected.
Dude, you ain't dissected shit yet. You're not dismantling my arguments, you're just positing your own hodgepodge of myths and guesses.
Just because you have the time and taste for this kind of infinitely regressive argumentation -- and I do not -- don't hate. Get to dismantling.
Otherwise you have said nothing so far to persuade a reasonable person to ignore the obvious -- that when a community produces robbers, rapist and killers on such a large scale, there's something wrong with the community.
^ CONT.: And what's wrong is... certain core values -- necessary to succeed in America -- aren't being passed down to the young. These values are education, law-abidingness and work.
These values are taught in the home and in the church and by civic groups like the Boy Scouts.
Without those values, you've got what we have now... 50 percent of black kids dropping out of school before getting a high-school diploma.
What can the state do to make up for a community's values deficiency? That's the issue we should be focusing on.
"These values are education, law-abidingness and work"
Such values are not rewarded with current pro-r-gaming legislation and social pressures.
This is why the single Black baby mama rate has tripled since the enactment of Jewish liberal policies in the 60s from 23% to 70% now.
The answer then is simple. Reverse such policies, and you will reverse such results. It seems every country has to be seduced and destroyed by Jewish meme warfare before they figure this out, though. LOL!
Problem is that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQs in the world, yet also some of the least scruples. Which makes it very easy for them to outsmart and manipulate all the other dumber, more naive humans. And while there may be a tiny % that catch on...as with K-gaming Blacks...unless this minority can gain critical mass to reach a tipping point - they will just get ostracized and smashed by the status quo mainstream majority. And the global paradigm will never change.
I dispensed with the question of scale during your first feeble attempt at this favored anti-Black propaganda of yours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homicide_rate
What you and the Giant Negro folk your parroting are crying about doesn't even rate as a ripple on the surface of the pond by international standards.
Secondly, your assumption that something is wrong with the community is misplaced. Cato is one of the few entities to actually examine the econometric correlates, and their findings mirror common sense, namely that where the war on drugs is most intense, so also are the homicide rates the highest.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj14n3/cj14n3-8.pdf
You make this like taking candy from a little hooded sheet wearing baby. What you did upthread never rose to the level of an argument. Frankly, I've yet to see you make an argument for what you profess in any forum anywhere. Rather, you just say stupid shit and stand on it with the unshakeable conviction of an prosocial evangelical. Problem is, you're not preaching bib-tard nonsense, you're preaching anti-Black propaganda.
Did some bad negro bullies beat your ass and steal your lunch money or something and it's effecting you down to this very day?
violent crime by Black folks was NOT the cause of either the original white flight out of the urban cores, or the subsequent Black managerial or professional class flight out to those self-same suburbs-exurbs.
White flight happened before any statistic you quoted. It came in the wake of Brown v. Board. Very obviously not influenced in any manner form or fashion by violent crime, rather, by the violent racism and control of municipal planning and development required to facilitate the process.
The process itself was infrastructurally facilitated by the development of the interstate highway system and greatly enhanced automotive connectivity. (the great developmental tragedy of the 20th century in America given the end of cheap energy)
Realtors, developers, and others preyed on the standing but unfounded fears of whites and made white flight and the tipping point a commercial fait accompli.
What Black folk with two pennies to rub together did between 1968 and 1978 was not provoked by Black violent crime, it was provoked by pent up demand for what had been sold for over a decade as embodiment of "upward mobility".
Should you attempt to make an argument, one way or another, let me know. Until then, I'll simply conclude from the present exchange what I concluded from prior exchanges. You don't have a factual or logical basis for the specific little racist idiosyncrasies contaminating your world view.
If I had it in me to feel sorry for you, I guess I would. But I haven't yet met a kneegrow conservative with the intellectual capacity to think through the matter to arrive at a position grounded in fact and logic. At the very least, you own up to your cognitive errors, and, you haven't overtly adopted any of the idiot fringe chindribble of something like turdeye who believes that the jews are exobiological reptilians and spouts r-game/k-game nonsense as if it's a meaningful insight into the sociobiological structure of the world.
Without those values, you've got what we have now... 50 percent of black kids dropping out of school before getting a high-school diploma.
Keep talking David. Your nonsense gets better by the minute. The Black highschool dropout rate is less than 11 percent. The Mexican dropout rate is approaching 41 percent. Black highschool dropout rates have declined steadily since 1972.
What can the state do to make up for a community's values deficiency? That's the issue we should be focusing on.
End the econometrically correlated and demonstrably ineffective War on Drugs. Period.
Elevated homicide levels, elevated criminal justice system contact and incarceration, and a whole host of demonstrated social ills go away very quickly in the wake of this entirely misbegotten politically motivated war on Black folks.
The history that you clearly failed to study would make for some most intriguing storytelling, if you could get stretch your active braincells around getting up on a little of it.
Lyndon B. Johnson hisself, started the what became the war on drugs as a war on the counterculture which had an immense center of gravity among Black folks who heroically resisted participation in the psychopathic slaughter of the vietnamese. This war on more pacifistic Black counterculture picked up steam during the Nixon years and it has never abated since.
The War on Drugs is the primary instrumentality in the longstanding domestic war on Black counterculture. Oh, and Black counterculture has ALWAYS occupied the morally aspirational high-ground in American public life. Or haven't you ever listened to the iconic countercultural speech given by MLK at Riverside Church?
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkatimetobreaksilence.htm
nevermind, being that it's you, that's just a rhetorical kwestin...,
"jews are exobiological reptilians and spouts r-game/k-game nonsense"
How is it nonsense?
It's common sense that r-gamers want to live with K-gamers, but K-gamers do not want to live with r-gamers.
Because K-gamers make good neighbors who build nice hoods...while r-gamers make bad neighbors who leech off them. A K-gamer has nothing to gain living in an r-hood (other than a low cost of living), and everything else to lose. Meanwhile, an r-gamer has everything to gain by living in a K-hood, minus the higher cost (but with federal r-gamer assisted housing subsidies like the current Section 8 Voucher Reform Act of 2008, this is no longer a problem).
So yes, violent crime is certainly one "White flight factor," but only one of the whole host of societal problems that r-gaming brings. One that can be witnessed in a purer Subsaharan African society - where destitute poverty, "overbreeding" and underfathering, lack of industry or higher education and lots of interpersonal violence, crime & STDs reign supreme.
For these conditions and tendencies to be so consistent around the world, we must simply look at a more primal code of BASIC INSTINCTS here - not more overacademic liberal EXCUSES. These excuses of which have only enabled and dramatically worsened all these problems over the last 50 years!
Overacademic liberal excuses = falsifiable facts and logic.
Turdy, you can keep whatever magical thinking nonsense you next intend to invoke (collective instinct???) and you and Davy can share a warm embrace over in the idiot section where magical thinking racists huddle together for warmth and superstitious comfort.
^ Ultimately, it doesn't matter what we say here anyways.
All of this intellectual mental masturbation is getting drowned out in the real world by mass media pumping out Black r-gaming memes through rap videos and Hollywood studios...straight into the gray spongy matter of the next generation. Where it will take them 30 years to wake up (if ever), and will therefore be too late for them. They might try to wake up some others on some low-traffic outlets like blogs...but again, until the minority reaches a critical mass tipping point - nothing will change.
If the same 5% gets drowned out by the numbers every generation, they will never take hold and the status quo will just keep on going unchallenged..
It's like a sparse lawn getting mowed every week. 50 years from now, it will still be no more than 3" tall.
Craig, allow me to demonstrate the folly of your “international standards” argument vis-Ã -vis homicides.
As you’re likely aware, the infant mortality rate in America is higher among blacks than among any other racial group. To be exact, the infant mortality rate for black mothers (in 2004) was 13.6 deaths per 1,000 live births (compared to 5.7 for white mothers).
Many social thinkers consider this disparity to be problematic... and worthy of remedy.
But employing your logic, one could say: “Hey, an infant mortality rate of 13.6 isn’t even a drop in the bucket by international standards! In Afghanistan it’s 157 deaths per 1,000 live births. In Nigeria it’s 109.5. In Pakistan it’s 67.5. In Cambodia it’s 62.7. In Bolivia it’s 45.6. In Iran it’s 30.6. In the Philippines it’s 23.1.
“Therefore, the disparity between black and white infant mortality rates in the U.S. should not be the subject of public discussion, because no policy remedies are called for.”
The folly of that line of thought, Craig, is that nobody gives a cock-suck about the rest of the world. We in America have no control over the murder rate in Albania. But presumably, we could try things in the public-policy arena to quell the black murder rate in America.
If only people like you could be convinced there’s a need to try.
David, good use of analogy as straw man.
I'm all for lowering infant mortality and can easily site the correlative conditions needing to be programmatically addressed to do so.
Similarly, I'm all for lowering the homicide rates in the U.S., and have cited the primary correlative conditions whereby that goal could be meaningfully pursued, namely, end the aggressive, colonial, paramilitary enforced drug prohibition which has been shown to coincide with elevated homicide rates in poor Black communities.
What I'm not willing or able to rationalize and support is the irrational and factually unsubstantiated belief that there is any such thing as "Black" crime requiring a specifically "Black" oriented intervention.
Correct problems with disparate policing, sentencing, and economic opportunity (employment) - and both the elevated infant mortality and homicide rates will be markedly abated. Since I'm not hopeful about the economy, at the very least let people get their harmless and shockingly inexpensive if legal feel-good on and then they can get back to the menial and trades-oriented vocations that will predominate in the collapsed economy ahead.
Mills...
"aren't being passed down to the young. These values are education, law-abidingness and work."
Given the wide-spread (100%) accessibility to blacks of these values, what exactly, David, do you attribute their "lack of passing these values down" to?
As you can see from this chart here, without a critical mass, K-gaming Blacks just get drug back down like crabs in a barrel...and any minority gains cannot be sustained...and are quickly lost and reswallowed up by the teeming r-gaming majority.
This slippage is due primarily to unwed single mamas - a primary result of the 60s liberal JPM.
"biggest driver of rising income and living standards of American families over the past several decades is the two-paycheck family. Too few African-Americans benefit from that trend: The percentage of married blacks in their 30s plunged from 68% in 1969 to 42% in 1998.
Moreover, nearly 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, up from about 25% in the mid-1960s."
It's very simple. Single moms + more babies = poverty.
Simply put, if the Black family cannot form and hold it together, no way in hell can the Black community. And the longer people deny this, the worse the problem will keep getting...until it will become so severe, it will "force" a Federal "Bailout" of feral kids with an 0rwellian Nanny State.
The Jew World 0rder coup d’état!
How brain dead does one have to be to confuse observed effects with posited causes like DV's poster child for racist morons has done right here^^^^^^?
Here we observe a classic case of rhetorical sleight of hand.
turdy, as is his standard operating procedure, doesn't spell out the cause for declines in matrimony from prior levels, aside from a nod to the meaningless "JPM".
There's no mention of the after effects of the vietnam war which is where the counterculture fracture line was most pronounced with mass fraggings taking place toward the end of the war, welfare housing strictures, the war on drugs (Black men) and the dehumanizing effects of prison industrial warehousing of an overwhelming majority of non-violent drug offenders in close quarters with genuine psychopaths.
History and the current state of affairs provide clear and indisputable evidence of a concerted and sustained counter insurgency having been fought against all levels of Black American males for the past 40 years.
Nah, in the necrotic pustule passing for the turdy brain - Black marriage practices just spontaneously broke down because of "collective instinctual proclivities" catalyzed by the "jewish progressive movement".
DV - why do you continue to allow this bush league moron to litter up comment threads at your spot?
Given the wide-spread (100%) accessibility to blacks of these values, what exactly, David, do you attribute their "lack of passing these values down" to?
Heaven forbid he's an adherent to Turdy's "collective instinct" hypothesis...,
In case you're drunk or otherwise sobriety impaired David, there's only one scientifically established collective human instinct, which instinct has shown itself to be universal and beyond evidentiary dispute.
Since I'm on that thought, may as well tie off one final discursive loose end with you Mr. Mills.
The number and frequency of complex utterances experienced by human children has a determinative influence on what is ambiguously referred to as IQ.
A child exposed to 2 million or fewer simple utterances by kindergarten age is at a decided disadvantage when compared and contrasted with an otherwise functionally identical child exposed to 10 million or so complex utterances by the same age.
IQ is no more genetic than shoe styles...., objective measures for heritable traits of cognition do not exist at this time.
no mention of the after effects of the vietnam war which is where the counterculture fracture line was most pronounced with mass fraggings taking place toward the end of the war, welfare housing strictures, the war on drugs (Black men) and the dehumanizing effects of prison industrial warehousing of an overwhelming majority of non-violent drug offenders in close quarters with genuine psychopaths.
History and the current state of affairs provide clear and indisputable evidence of a concerted and sustained counter insurgency having been fought against all levels of Black American males for the past 40 years.
Black marriage practices just spontaneously broke down because of "collective instinctual proclivities" catalyzed by the "jewish progressive movement".
Lol, you disappoint me cnulan. All you did was dump a bunch of red herrings out like aircraft chaff when it's about to get hit.
Was the spike caused by war? Well, if so, we should have seen similar spikes after the Civil War, WWI, WWI, etc.
War on drugs = war on Black men = less Black marriages? Huh?
Imprisonment? That's the symptom of millions of daddyless Black babies, not the cause.
Counterculture and LBJ's Great Society welfare state? YES!
sustained counter insurgency having been fought against all levels of Black American males for the past 40 years
LMAO - this when we just elected a Black American male president? Surely you jest?
Fact is, when you cutout all the static noise...what it does boil down to is ancestral r-gaming basic instincts, enabling Jewish r-gaming meme warfare (including feminism) and the invention of the Pill in the 60s.
David,
In the event you're unfamiliar with the grass roots end of what brought the vietnam fiasco to an end;
http://www.isreview.org/issues/09/soldiers_revolt.shtml
I'm now on the road, doing paying work this week. Please don't consider it unmanly, Craig, if I bid this thread farewell.
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