Thursday, December 11, 2008

OK. Since You Didn't Understand The Nuance Of The Group Identity Politics Argument - Let Me Give It To You Like A 5 Year Old



CNulan said...
I haven't yet encountered any 5 year old bullies or bigots, but I see that the masterminds behind this presentation are working overtime to protect perogatives of evangelical prosociality and to ensure that transmission of the atavistic ostracism and oppression memes to current and future 5 year olds continues and is secured with the full force and authority of law.

It really doesn't matter how you go about frosting this turd DV. It's not going to magically transform into a cake. You're still backing the de-evolutionary and thus objectively immoral political position.

Denmark Vesey said ...
If you ever want to brainwash someone ... convince them they're victims.

Human beings are predisposed to victim status. It's like saying, you deserve better. Who can argue? It's remarkably easy to support this proposition. It's very easy to blame someone for your problems. Often grievances are legitimate but they are most often pretexts used to divide and conquer people who actually have mutual interests.

Why would someone want to be a victim?

What is the highly coveted dividend? For whatever reason "victims" are conferred a higher moral status. They become Saintly, faultless and immune to criticism.

Historically victims in America have been the working class and Blacks. Later Women were granted victim status.

Today, victims include Jews, homosexuals (Gays, Lesbians, BiSexual & Transgendered), white males, the middle class, the handicapped, black men, black women, children, Old people, Latinos, the obese, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Loddy, Doddy & Everybody. We exist in an incestuous orgy of victims competing for Most Oppressed Status.

Victimhood transforms people. They become motivated, self-righteous and regimented. A complex world is reduced to black and white: Good against Evil, us against them. Morally and intellectually, they become arrogantly ignorant intolerant tyrants quick to hurl the slur of "bigot" at anyone who challenges their entitled status.

And then you have the "Victim Groupies", whose mantra is simple. I support victims - therefor I should be conferred a higher moral status by default! I'm a good guy! It's not for me, but I think it's OK. What do I care 2 people do in the privacy of their yada yada?"

Moral By Association

The problem is they no longer can think in terms of humanity as a whole. They have been suckered into the US vs Them paradigm. Divided and Soon To Be Conquered, they see the world as little competing football teams of victims vs. 'bibtards'.

When it is suggested the NWO is using Feminist, Homosexual and Zionist activists to attack the family, fathers, Christianity and other institutions that compete with NWO Monopoly of Authority , Victim Groupies hurl accusations of attacks on women, gays and Jews. They automatically spew obscenities and charge the prerequisite cue "Hate", (Peep Mel) as if some type of Pavlovian bell was rung in their brains.

It's like ... whoa! whoa! damn. Homosexuals can do anything they want to each other. Who cares? But under the guise of demanding "Gay Marriage" the activists are forcing other people to adopt THEIR definition of marriage.

The "Victim" is the "Aggressor". But years of propaganda and MTVish conditioning has prevented even our best and brightest from assessing this political maneuver as anything other than 'helpless gays denied something everyone else has'.

I am not attacking any group of people. I am challenging the absurd brainwashing that suggests a group of people whose only common denominator is a sexual perversion automatically grants them the a higher moral status than any other group of people.

I am talking about the effect of these manufactured Victim Movements on society, who don't care about anyone but their own "oppressed" group. They don't care if society is destroyed as long as they get their way.

Sound like children? Victim hood is a form of arrested development. (Mike Fisher & GSWS) Caring about other peoples' needs is the basis of morality. It is synonymous with personal and social development.

Here are the groups: Human Beings.

All rights should be predicated upon THAT alone.

There is no such thing as "Homosexual People". There is no such thing as "Heterosexual People". There are only people. Creating Special Categories of people with built in Morality Points because they bone each other in the ass is absurd.

17 comments:

CNu said...

I haven't yet encountered any 5 year old bullies or bigots, but I see that the masterminds behind this presentation are working overtime to protect perogatives of evangelical prosociality and to ensure that transmission of the atavistic ostracism and oppression memes to current and future 5 year olds continues and is secured with the full force and authority of law.

It really doesn't matter how you go about frosting this turd DV. It's not going to magically transform into a cake. You're still backing the de-evolutionary and thus objectively immoral political position.

CNu said...

Caring about other peoples' needs is the basis of morality. It is synonymous with personal and social development.

What evangelically prosocial *need* is subserved by legally denying homosexuals the full complement of rights accorded all other citizens?

CNu said...

I am talking about the effect of these manufactured Victim Movements on society, who don't care about anyone but their own "oppressed" group. They don't care if society is destroyed as long as they get their way.

What effects are those DV?

Now be careful and make sure that whatever rotting fish you gather together in support of this contention can be packed into the dirty diaper of *Christian* moral responsibility rather than the lower-hanging fruit of simple homophobia that's been your discursive stock-in-trade for a couple weeks now.

Denmark Vesey said...

CNu,

Help me out. Give me an example. Your turn to present it to me like I'm a 5 year old.

Name a right a man who has homosexual sex is legally denied that you and I are afforded?

Just 1

1) _________________

Denmark Vesey said...

"What effects are those DV? " CNulan

The first casualty of Group Identity & Victim Politics CNu, is Objective Truth.

Victims don't care about objective truth. They feel their suffering gives them the right to manipulate the truth or even deny that it exists.

Marxist, Post modern, feminist, Secular extremism disputes the existence of objective reality.

The entire pretense of western philosophy originally was to understand reality.

Now it simply manufactures reality.

Which is why I utilize images depicting the REALITY of homosexual behavior, that you reflexively refer to as "homophobic".

How can the truth be homophobic?

How is a photo of two men kissing homophobic?

If Homosexuality, CNu, is an IDENTITY, not a behavior ... why is showing it taboo and considered 'low-hanging' fruit?

If a blogger posted an image of a Man and a Woman kissing - I wouldn't consider it Heterophobia.

Pictures don't lie.

The absurdity of two homosexual grown men coddling a black infant speaks for itself.

The relatively unpopular meme I have invested in on this blog was an exercise Objective Reality vs. Manufactured Reality. (I thought you or Sub would be the first to peep that)

I submit the visceral response of the Casper's & Mel types as evidence of people conditioned to resent the observable truth (which is an extension of the secular fanaticism's resentment of God. That's another story)

Professional Victims are passive aggressive.

Sanctimoniously, they pretend they are merely seeking "equal rights" (As my man CNu dutifully suggests above) when obviously they are ATTACKING OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

The so-called persecuted is now the persecutor.

I CONSIDER MARRIAGE TO BE A SPIRITUAL BOND BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

I respect other people's right to believe marriage is whatever they choose to believe.

The Thought Police are slowly making my belief ... a crime.

Prop 8 in CA is an ideological tug of war. Not merely an attack on "helpless homosexuals"

CNu said...

Name a right a man who has homosexual sex is legally denied that you and I are afforded?

Just 1

1) _________________


Marriage
Spousal inheritance
Spousal power of attorney
Spousal tax status

Denmark Vesey said...

"Marriage
Spousal inheritance
Spousal power of attorney
Spousal tax status" CNu

W.R.O.N.G.
Myth
Manufactured Reality.

A man who has homosexual sex can marry a woman just like you and I can.

Neither you nor I can marry another man.

We have the SAME rights.

What this farce is demanding is Special Rights.

Try again.

CNu said...

Neither you or I is predisposed to romantic or sexual attraction toward another man.

So..,

Along with that handful of dirt you threw in your first no-holds barred attempt, you know, where you pretended that I objected to any of the homoerotic images with which you've decorated your screeds?

Instead of responding to the actual substance of my objection to your homophobic hyperbole - which centered on a pedophile allusion and a coprophage evocation - you went and made up some stuff about pictures.

Now, you come with this Special Rights sophistry? DV? Dood?

Stop slippin..., straighten up and fight like a man!!!

Anonymous said...

DV
"submit the visceral response of the Casper's & Mel types as evidence of people conditioned to resent the observable truth"

The observable truth you speak of that I respond to are your bigoted, homophobic and in 2008 religious based value system. I find it intersting that you are more than capable of locating and posting snapshot images of a group of people that you suggest defines their entire lives. However when the same suspect images of your idols of Cash Money are shown to you kissing each other on the lips your defense mechanisms go into hyper groupy overdrive. You see DV.. you have a sliding moral standard that you yourself don't even apply with any form of consistency. It defuses your ability to convince objective minds of some real arguement that should be considered from your brain waves. You become a defacto politician who swears to be fiscally conservative but supports every contract that comes accross his desk ... provided it's from his special interest of course!

DV your prophet was schooling and you missed the class.

Denmark Vesey said...

Denmark Vesey said...

"Cash Money are shown to you kissing each other on the lips your defense mechanisms go into hyper groupy overdrive."


Whaaaaaaaa?

I don't understand your point Casper. You don't make sense man.

If you showed me a picture of Lil Wayne having sex with Baby, So What? - he'd still be the best rapper alive and the best poet in the English language.

But I don't think I'd want to see Lil Wayne and baby adopting kids together.

1) What is this picture you are so proud of supposed to prove?

2) How does a digital image of a New Orleans rapper make everyone supposed to feel warm and fuzzy about white homosexual men adopting little black boys?

Actually. I don't expect you to answer those questions.

You can't. You are a victim of mass hypnosis. You don't even understand why you are so offended at my challenge to Homo Hegemony.

...

Ever notice the same cats willing to die defending everything homo ... are often the first cats calling the black media victim du jour "Stupid" and "Idiots" who "Got what they deserved" and "Knew Da Law!"and "Buffoons who should go to jail"?

If it's not Michael Vick, it's Pacman Jones, if it's not Pacman it's Kobe, if it's not Kobe it's TO if it's not TO it's Plaxico, if it's not Plaxico any Rapper will do - doesn't matter - AUTOMATIC hate and celebration of that black man's misfortune.

Yet WHEN IT COMES TO ANY ISSUE PUSHED BY THE GAY LOBBY .... The same Negros are ready to catch a BULLET defending all things gay.

Imagine Negros trained to love homos and to hate black men.

This is not an assault on homosexuality, Casper. It's an assault on MIND CONTROL.

What did you think of the video?

Anonymous said...

DV
If you showed me a picture of Lil Wayne having sex with Baby, So What? - he'd still be the best rapper alive and the best poet in the English language.

So if he can be the best rapper and your idol then why can't he be a better parent than the lame parent who allowed their child to be placed in a foster home to begin with? Your logic makes ZERO sense. You judge parental skillz based on the guardian's sex life. How often have your kid seen you in the act with your woman/women?How small minded and mentally limited is that?

Anonymous said...

DV
If it's not Michael Vick, it's Pacman Jones, if it's not Pacman it's Kobe, if it's not Kobe it's TO if it's not TO it's Plaxico, if it's not Plaxico any Rapper will do - doesn't matter - AUTOMATIC hate and celebration of that black man's misfortune.

Can't help it if some of us are not pro stupid! Your attempts to make their issuses into a black on black thing is so 1980's. Your fighting with words like Jesse Jackson and it's lame. Get a new game!

CNu said...

DV, you cracked me up with that first draft of your last comment.

The allcaps cussing was something else. I saved a copy of that joker for posterity dood.

The Blackest man on the Internet was momentarily beet red in the face.

Priceless.....,

Denmark Vesey said...

LOL.

CNu ... You saw that? LOL.

Shiiiiiit. Red faced? LOL. Man I was laughing hysterically.

Wiped the tears from my eyes, and thought I'd save myself the bother of being misunderstood.

But, fuck it. Run with it.

What I say?

"You PUNKASSCONFORMISTMOTHERFUCKER" or something like that?

CNu said...

Once you subscribe to a thread, blogger kicks out the notification message, quick, fast, and in a hurry.

No chance to pull back drafts after they've been published, even if you delete them off the thread.

Some of the preliminary draft comedy gold I've seen hereabouts though has been legendary - the very fact that cats go to such great lengths to edit themselves - and the editorial changes they go through as they groom their exteriorized thoughts for public consumption - i.e., as they strike a pose - priceless....,

Anonymous said...

And all for something that may be read by a few, for a minuscule period of time.

It is amazing the edit work that is done for such a fleeting payoff.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I haven't yet encountered any 5 year old bullies or bigots, but I see that the masterminds behind this presentation are working overtime to protect perogatives of evangelical prosociality[/quote]

Hummmmm.

Either the 5 year old doesn't have enough of a world view outside of himself to look beyond his desire for that new toy for "Me" and thus doesn't display what Mr. Nulan indicates due to his development interval

OR

we should be able to test Mr. Nulan's theory by isolating a group of kids that are <=5, retaining them in some hyperbaric chamber that is as isolated as possible from such forces as the "Legacy of Slavery" that seek to jump across the generational synapse and express itself through the modern individual.

If this proves true then Mr. Nulan would have single handedly come up with an effective counter to the oft heard debate regarding how history fundamentally predetermines an individual's ultimate destiny. If we effectively sever that handoff of history - problem solved.

This might be a more worthy investment than alternative energy schemes.