Saturday, January 08, 2011

God's Son - Politician or Prophet? - Submariner & DV - Prophesy Check - 2 Years Later

Submariner said...
DV, don't fall for it. Only in the virtual world can a bitch-ass-punk and punk-ass-bitch like byrdeye make himself appear more defiant and determined than President-elect Barack Obama. Read the post below and you'll see that despite his protestations to the contrary, it is the supposedly Zionist controlled nations of Europe and North America that comprise his ideal of muscular statesmanship.

Denmark, I know that you are exceptionally strong-willed, passionate, and opinionated but give yourself a chance to change and grow. These last two years Barack Obama has given us a political tutorial, clinic, and virtuoso performance in real time. Don't succumb to what byrdeye and the others are trying to pull over on you: that Barack Obama didn't really take this thing in his hands and win in the most convincing fashion possible, and that what he represents isn't a potential challenge to the world order. 

Denmark Vesey said ...
Ahh. I see your point Sub.

But rest assured, I am at little risk of succumbing to the reductive rhetoric of the Obama haters, be they white or black (Mike). Yet, the truth is the truth.


The first appointment is the first appointment.


Rahm Emmanuel was / is the citizen of a foreign state that has a record of spying on the US. Public record is public record. Obama's politics have been status-quo from the start. Peep the archives. 


Ron Paul was the only truly anti-war candidate other than my girl Cynthia McKinney who most Negros don't even know was running.

Obama is not anti-War. He is same-War different country. Let's be honest about that.


My support of Obama is not political. It is spiritual. Cat aint gotta walk water before I see the presence of God. So, if he is who I think he is... Rahm may play the part of the Apostle Paul.


The intrigue and social relations involved in achieving and using power absolutely require the dark manipulations made by Mr. Obama. That is why while I agree with the spiritual overtones that you apply to Barack Obama, I think the more appropriate depiction is King David in the Bible, a statesman rather than revolutionary. Barack Obama will not win every battle. He will send unsuspecting allies to the front to die so that he can advance his interests, trusted intimates will rise against him and he against them. But despite all this he will do God's work and some real good.

Beautiful Sub. I like that. But I don't see Barack as King. Kings are warriors and rulers. Obama is more a message bearer, a prophet, a voice of God. Not a statesman. He transcends the plebeian world of Lyndon Johnson political craftsmanship. Too much dignity.

As they say on the street, "Don't hate the player, hate the game." We have a small finite opportunity to insert ourselves into the leadership framework while expanding the library of opportunities for all. Would you really have a problem if black people in America made themselves a permanent entrenched interest like Jews whose goals are served no matter which party or individual occupies the helm?


Yes. I would have a problem with that. Advantage, at the expense of other people is unsustainable.


And would you take seriously the recriminations of a trifling white boy who accused your Stanford trained son and MIT degreed daughter of being pawns for a Jewish inspired conspiracy?

Yes. I would take them seriously if my Stanford trained son and MIT degreed daughter were in fact pawns of a Jewish inspired conspiracy. Again, the truth is the truth. My son or daughter or not my son or daughter. Stanford or no Stanford.

Heaven forbid, but if my MIT daughter fought in a middle eastern war largely the product of the mechanizations of the Israel Lobby - she would be a pawn. If her Stanford brother's taxes financed the war - he's a pawn too.


The fact that the accusation came from a "trifling white boy" wouldn't alter my degree of seriousness.


If you can answer yes to these questions then I applaud the rigorous maintenance your integrity but remain ideologically opposed. But if you respond negatively then surely you must be self-aware enough to recognize that you need to strike a new course. If you and I could live through these past several months and still remain fundamentally unaltered in our outlooks then we are the afflicted that are beyond God's help.

Black cultural hegemony has brought us far. I doubt if Branch Rickey knew allowing Jackie Robinson entry into major league baseball would mean President Obama that he would've went along. But that is neither or nor there. Robinson did make it and because of him we can luxuriate with Kobe Bryant and Barack Obama.

Branch Rickey did not "allow" Jackie Robinson in the major leagues. He stole the best talent from the Negro Leagues and monopolized baseball. Branch Rickey would put Flavor Flav in the whitehouse if he could use him as a front to rob the US Treasury and use the US Army to fight wars for Israel.

We've got some real capital and don't let the naysayers we don't. It's up to us to use it intelligently and get in where we fit in. Only suckers like byrdeye with no stakes in the game and little aspiration view accommodation as weakness. The key is to maintain ethical equilibrium and don't lie to, on, or about black folks. Fuck these white boys and fake preachers.


I don't understand that Sub. You may have to run that past me again. I don't understand the hostility you and bra CNu express towards Byrdeye. I don't see his promotion of whiteness as any different from our promotion and celebration of blackness.


I'm not in the least bit bothered by his belief that Europeans are better nation builders than non-Europeans. Personally, I think it depends on how one defines "nation" and for what historical period of time we limit the measurement - but that's another story.


Byrd actually cracks me up. I like his honesty. I find his unabashed heralding of his whiteness... the opposite of racism. It's them "feel your pain" ... "systemic racism" ... "institutional racism" ... "black people have it hard" whitefolks I find the most racist.



6 comments:

Big Man said...

Good discussion

Michael Fisher said...

DV...

"be they white or black (Mike)"

And when did I become an Obama hater? I voted for the guy. I just don't subscribe to the dumb ass notion of the man being the second coming of Jesus Christ. Black folk got enough of a Messiah complex as it goes.

Anonymous said...

Well, you substantiated your integrity and intellectual courage. But allow me to respond, respectfully, that if some nefarious organization did come to possessed your child's mind and talents, then you have abdicated your parental responsibility and inadvertently given this international Zionist organization the very power that you say whites do not have. Indeed, this organization has scored its greatest coup in your idol.

Seven Half Store said...

GREAT discussion.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]These last two years Barack Obama has given us a political tutorial, clinic, and virtuoso performance in real time.[/quote]

DV and KC Nulan:

It is most critical that we "evaluate Obama" by NOT EVALUATING OBAMA!!!!!!

We need to first stop allowing the HIJACKERS of the Black Community Consciousness to place ONE MAN as the barometer of the condition of the Black community after decades of political activism for us to arrive at this point.

Obama merely sits atop a SYSTEM that the Black Establishment operatives have kept us in loyal support of.

* Safe Streets
* Quality Education
* Thriving Local Economies
* Healthy Lifestyles and Relationship Outcomes
* Comprehensive and Enduring Solutions
* Solutions that leverage the talents of OUR OWN PEOPLE as the main pillars that support the desired STANDARD OF LIVING that we desire - valuing the need for our INSTITUTIONS to prepare our people to be the "professional service agents" that our people need

THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE USE AS OUR STANDARD REFERENCE.

The real question MUST BE - How does the Black community stand with reference to these permanent reference points TO-DAMNED-DAY??

All the while the SOLD OUT NEGROES seek to make Obama the key reference - they grieve about the condition of our communties - the places where their THEORIES go most unchecked despite these grievances.

If there was ever a time to take off the "Malcolm X Football Game equipment" and obtain some consciousness about one's self - that time is NOW.

Constructive Feedback said...

I meant to say "Submariner" not KCNu. Force of habit.

The ONLY victor in the battle to debate over the effectiveness of President Obama are the "Owners of the Teams" in the Malcolm X Football games.

Some Negroes have purchased a 52" flat screen television to watch this game upon. It is housed in a building with a blue tarp upon the roof to keep the rain waters out. This being the evidence of the benign neglect of their super structure.