Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick who has been dubbed the “Hip Hop Mayor” and is known for his wild mansion parties is caught up in yet another scandal. He is being sued by two former police bodyguards who alleges he ruined their careers after they launched an internal investigation into the mayor’s marital infidelities and misconduct by other security officers. One cop is claiming he had to flee the city because he feared for his life.Here are a few messages between him and his married Chief of Staff Christine Beatty back in ‘03 that have surfaced:
KK: “I’m madly in love with you.”CB: “I hope you feel that way for a long time. In case you haven’t noticed, I am madly in love with you, too!”
KK: I’m at Laker game. The security doesn’t believe I’m mayor. Mike is pulling out all kind of shirt to prove it.
CB: And, did you miss me, sexually?
KK: Hell yeah! You couldn’t tell. I want some more. Don’t sleep!
KK: That’s the first time that I couldn’t fully seduce you. My game is off. LOL! Thanx for the conversation and the QT! Love you!
CB: LOL! Your game is way on baby! “you had me at hello!” Jerry McGuire 2000. LOL. I just didn’t want to get caught.
Reports that Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick had a woman other than his wife with him at the Grove Park Inn before speaking at the Martin Luther King Prayer Breakfast left event organizers disappointed Friday. The mayor had been with a woman who called herself Carmen Slowsky and that the two had enjoyed champagne and a whirlpool bath together at a cost of more than $500. A copy of the hotel invoice shows a stay arranged for two.A prosecutor in Michigan launched an investigation Friday into allegations that Kilpatrick lied under oath about an affair with his top aide. Kilpatrick is married, and news of an extramarital affair with his chief of staff had surfaced in Detroit recently. Kilpatrick has said the affair was over.
Fist Tap CNu
Brother on TV publicly apologizing about a private infidelity. Has privacy disappeared in America? Has this digital age of text messages, email, voice mail and Patriot Acts gone too far?
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One very sorry ass....,
Like I said on TSO. No, this isnt any of our business and I has no bearing on his job. But, that doesnt stop me from saying if he wasnt happy at home he should have left. Then there wouldnt have been any issue with who he took to the hotel.
Sometimes, I'm more disappointed with sloppy execution than I am with infidelity.
Lawdy, lawdy.
There ain't a politician in this country who ain't got some on the side. What was Condi's "Freudian slip" when she was talking about Dubya? "My husband".
Now the fool done pissed off the real woman in his life - his chief of staff. Expect the book out soon.
roflmbao
It's only relevant because he lied about it under oath during an investigation into whether she was steering city contracts to her friends.
I'm with RJ, though. Sloppy execution is what disappoints people. Nobody cares whether he cheated, but, damn brah, don't use city email systems to do it!!
but, damn brah, don't use city email systems to do it!!
Is what I.am.talking.about!!!
In the modern era, only a true fool imagines that virtual ain't real. The HipHop mayor is a HipHop fool. He got SHOOK real proper-like, and it's many more such fools out there just waiting/begging to get SHOOK too!
Havent read any back story on this, didnt know the original issue was about steering contracts. To that I say -- you needed a whole investigation to determine that a politician steers contracts to his friends. All politicians steer contracts, period.
No, this isn't any of our business and I has no bearing on his job.
If I remember the back-story correctly, Kilpatrick's attempt to keep the affair hidden ultimately cost the city $9 million (after he fired two investigators who were positioned to reveal the affair).
I'm not big on publicizing private lives just for cheap laughs or to get a voyeuristic fix.
But once your private life starts costing your city $9 million - and you're using [read: squandering] resources at work to support your indiscretions, you created the spill over the line.
this isnt any of our business and I has no bearing on his job.
-rjesq
While avoiding puritanism, I must vehemently disagree. A marital indescretion is a private matter but when coupled with a well-documented history of personal indulgences while serving as mayor it becomes a public concern. Like all aspirants, Kilpatrick promised self-sacrifice and due diligence. The mayor's excesses curtail his effectiveness and are a burden to taxpayers who indirectly have to finance his dalliances or pay for investigations into alleged corruption and misuse of power. If he wants to party and have a good time he should do it with his own money and on his own time. He can join the same club as Paris Hilton and other celebrities.
DV, the way you feel about white supremacy is the way I feel about church and God in relation to black empowerment. It tethers us to the plantation. Every besieged black man immediately turns to Jesus. Name any so-called black leader and I'll show you someone who is a regular churchgoer if not an outright ordained minister. This religious crutch is equivalent to the sweet tooth and an evolutionary dead-end. You and Intellectual Insurgent are always advocating for bold self-determination and self-reliance on the Ayn Rand or Lil Wayne model. How does submission to theocracy achieve this goal? Negroes are continuously appealing to Jesus, God, Allah or some divine presence outside of themselves. But our actions reveal very little return on this investment. Massa's house is not without a surplus of blacks kneeling at its amen corners.
Amen Sub!
Yo Sub,
It's not like his gesture in church was sincere. Just false piety and sympathy seeking window dressing for the rubes...., all-in-all, this disgraceful waste of skin has not only played himself, he's played his bentover "constituents" in Detroit - and is STILL trying to play them.
Jail's too good for this maggot. Ideally, you just put him up against the wall and save the taxpayers the expense of paying for his useless monkey ass to eat fried bologna sandwiches up in the hooter.
This clown tried to destroy careers to cover up his indiscretions. As a whistleblower who had to go to the mats myself for 4 1/2 years - that's a death penalty offense in my book.
CNu, I didnt understand your zeal until the last sentence. Otherwise you didnt strike me as one who would care about Kwame romps in the hot
tub.
Sub, to the extent that this issue had a fiscal impact on the city, and to the extent that the investigating officers were affected, I agree.
Beyond that, inquiry into this man's dick game simply because "he took an oath" and the citizens of Detroit "deserve better" blah, blah, blah is bull crap.
I wish someone in my office would ask me what I may have done last night. GTFOOH.
RJ, if his extracurricular activities require city resources and influence hiring practices then it is a public matter. It's not the size or variety of his sexual appetites. The bottom line is how he conducts policy and not if he likes to hit it from the back or drop twenties in a stripper's thong.
Then again, if he openly declares himself a player and the citizens want to reelect him then they get what they deserve.
rjesq
"I wish someone in my office would ask me what I may have done last night. GTFOOH."
Which is why you are not in public office. It comes with the job that's the difference. Don't play the game(politics) if you are a player!
No Casp, you only feel its "a part of the job" because folks have allowed it to be "part of the job." If in response to out-of-pocket questions about a politician's sex life said politican remarked that "folks should mind their damn business," we wouldnt have people running around talking about "its part of the job."
[Robyn calls Casper on his conformist "dats jus da way it izzz!" impulse.]
Why does it have to be about conformism? By the way, aren't you a conformist when it comes to so-called family values?
Quite a few municipalities are known for selecting eccentrics and nonconformists. I recall listening to a segment on NPR when an openly gay woman was elected sheriff in a Texas town two years ago. Same goes for Kwame. If he is open about his lifestyle or dismisses inquiries into the subject that's his right. It's also the public's right to reject him.
I agree that personal sexual choices or habits have undue influence in public life. For instance, many cultural conservatives would wrongly deny the rights of gays to enter the military or teach schoolchildren. It's not about that at present. It's about a public servant using his office to further his access to women or ply them with favors or cover-up investigations into the conduct of public business.
Kilpatrick could've easily followed RJ's bold proposals but he didn't. When challenged on the subject he chose to lie and later he leaned on the cross and held his wife's hand.
The truth is that the type of secularism that DV warns against does not exist for the most part and cannot withstand the onslaught from the religious hegemon.
Sub: ....RJ's bold proposals...
And therein lies the problem. It is now a bold proposal for someone to keep their sex life private, even it is an immoral one.
As stated, to the extent that city resources and disinterested employees were impacted, I agree with you. But stepping back a bit, I question how "who Kwame was sleeping with" became a proper inquiry in the first place.
If its about public funds, the "WHO and HOW" of it all is irrelevant. Furthermore, unless the allegation was that Kwame was sleeping with folks in exchange for public contracts, I'm having a hard time understanding how all this new found information is even probative.
“Why does it have to be about conformism?” Submariner
It is conformist because Casper champions the notion that a potential public servant forfeit his expectation of privacy because “it comes with the job”, not because it is the best thing to do.
In stark contrast to young Robyn, whose Jamaican ancestors produced the likes of Marcus Garvey, who states: “I wish someone [read “a motherfucker”] in my office would ask me what I may have done last night. “GTFOOH.
Robyn contends that despite the expectations of the group, she will determine the intrusions into her privacy individually. Thus a woman of self-determination juxtaposed to a man group-determination.
“By the way, aren't you a conformist when it comes to so-called family values?” Submariner
I don’t see how. Valuing family is in my self-interest. Not valuing family is in the interest of my competitors. The people who call “abortion”, “choice” and who promote the homosexual lifestyle as a “freedom” wield the machinery of conformity with much more abandon than those who favor prayer in schools or who frown on the practice of teaching teens that gay anal sex is normal.
“The truth is that the type of secularism that DV warns against does not exist for the most part and cannot withstand the onslaught from the religious hegemon.”
Not so fast my dear friend.
The misuse of religion, no more represents religion than medical malpractice represents medicine.
There are theologians that abuse the ministry and the scripture just as there are physicians that peddle for-profit drugs to treat symptoms and perform surgery to implant plastic titties.
Religious charlatans no more represent Jesus Christ than Medical Quacks represent Hippocrates.
If you wish to test the relative power of Secular Hegemony vs Religious Hegemony wear a T Shirt to work tomorrow that says “Choose Life” or that questions the assumptions of the official Holocaust story [The Secular Version Of 'Faith' beyond question].
See how fast they have your ass out of there.
RJ, it is bold because it is a direct challenge to the religious hegemon and its serried ranks, of which Denmark Vesey is a skilled and capable pawn. Sexuality is one of various human expressions and activities that it seeks to regulate and control. What I'd like to ask DV is does or does not religion, particularly Christianity, occupy the same zip code as the Global Sysytem of White Supremacy in its ability to distort, distract, and ultimately undermine human agency? If not, why not?
Robyn contends that despite the expectations of the group, she will determine the intrusions into her privacy individually. Thus a woman of self-determination juxtaposed to a man group-determination.
y'all tickle me with these quaint superstitions about controlling intrusions into your privacy. the only sure control you can exert is to live in a shiningly upright manner that is beyond reproach.
otherwise, you should very well expect to get SHOOK.
I'll never forget the very first offer I received to hack for money. It came in 1993 from a partner in a law firm who was certain that his counterpart in an acrimonious lawsuit was not complying with the legal discovery process...,
Cnu, I bet the person that propositioned you was a plaintiff's attorney!
Re: privacy, one should control what they can. Obviously technology is what it is, but I damn sure wont add fuel to the fire.
Its a little silly but Jay Z and Beyonce have repeatedly come to mind during this thread. They do them and dont entertain any further intrusion into their privacy by responding or commenting. Jay has even been known to tell some folk that certain things were "none of their damn business" as I earlier recommended.
IMO, its not really the ability to intrude that gets me (which is where your knowledge of technology leads you), its the folks walking around proclaiming, under the guise of elected official-hood and celebrity, that there is somehow a right to intrude.
I'm callin bullshit on that.
You'd win that bet too RJ!
I'll go you one further. The plaintiff was an insurance company.
Based on my own observations, I became convinced a long time ago that "legal discovery" provided the core systemic incentive for the evolutionarily stable proliferation of criminal hacking in America. It was the only steady state source of big money, low risk, high-yield targets (who phukkin hacks the military, and what's the payoff? this ain't the movies y'know...,)
That said, anybody who works in a zero-sum competitive arena - like big bidnis, the law, and politics - has GOT to know better than to compile a treasure trove of 14,000 incriminating text messages. That's just nekkid incompetence in this day and age.
Not everybody can straight bogard like G-Dub whose minions just overwrote or destroyed incriminating electronic data, utilized trusted, private communication channels, and told inquisitive folks which part of executive privilege they could kiss.
Black folks in zero sum arenas professing to serve constituents gotta do better, gotta elevate their's to the G-Dub level of the game...,
DV, I'm talking about actual power relations in the political arena and your trying to refute that with funny looks which might be elicited by wearing a tee shirt? Try being an atheist or agnostic or open homosexual running for national or state-wide office and see how far you would get.
One of the main reasons that GW Bush has succeeded is because he is so well received and fiercely defended by entrenched religious interests. And Ron Paul's handicap comes from the fact that he doesn't aggressively solicit this entity.
When I first brought my daughter home to my Jamaica, Queens apartment I just held her in my arms and cried profusely. I recalled all the pains that I had suffered in my life since childhood. Then I thought of all the routine insults and indignities that she would have to endure as a natural part of growing up and that I would be unable to protect her from. I had the sickness of a parent watching their child play in the street oblivious to an oncoming truck. It got me thinking about how weak and powerless I was yet she was counting on me. My little girl will be six years old next month. I can't control her future but if she declared that she was gay I would accept her and her lifestyle. If God, Jesus, Yahweh, Allah or whatever said that she would go to hell then I would say fuck them and go straight to hell with the love of my life. No God or church could separate me from her. Any God that would demand this just isn't worthy of the moniker.
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