Damien said...
As a fight fan who has been watching the buildup of this fight I gotta say there have been hardly any racial overtones. Now Saturday night when half of jolly old England is in Vegas drunk and angry because Pretty Boy Floyd put a whuppin on their boy then there may be some ish.Peep the buildup to Cooney/Holmes in the early 80's, that fight had racial overtones.
Floyd as a fighter is unparalleled. Roy Jones in his prime against Floyd now that would be great.
As far as a promoter and marketer, Floyd is slightly above average. He talks a lot but his first huge purse (10 million plus) was his last fight and De La Hoya was just as much the reason for the big draw as Floyd. Floyd's style, classic boxing with stupendous defense, is not as pleasing to the casual boxing fan as say a Arturo Gatti or Diego Corrales (God Bless the Dead) who will bleed for their fans but not always win.
Aside fron these photos (are they photoshopped?) Oscar is THE MAN. Every fighter comes to him when they want a big payday, not the other way around. Floyd turned down 9 million with Antonio Margarito on the off chance that he and Oscar could make it happen and he made somewhere in the range of 25-30 million, while Oscar made oogobs more. Unlike a lot of boxer/promoters Oscar actually has former boxers in equity positions inside of the company and he actually runs his company like a business. I only wish Iron Mike could have done something like that when he was in his prime instead of having pathetic exhibition fights to pay off back taxes.
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Undertone? If this aint a racial OVERtone, I dont know what is.
Promoters always try to make fights between blacks and latinos racial. Right now, boxing has no other strategy to pursue.
Mayweather is a dumbass.
Is it me or does De La Hoya look strangely turned on by this display of raw masculinity?
Mayweather is brilliant. One of the greatest of all time. A master of his craft. Part Sugar Leonard. Part Donald Trump.
Is there an attorney in the legal game as good as Mayweather at the fight and promotion game?
Mayweather is an well dressed brother! His bravado is well suited for the fight game. I got $500 on him.
II
Is it me or does De La Hoya look strangely turned on by this display of raw masculinity?
Nah it's his pumps. His feet are killing him ;)
Casper.
That.
Is.
Funny.
What the hell was Oscar thinking? I cant even see how this was a joke taken out of context.
Nice to see the lighter side of Casper. :-)
As a fight fan who has been watching the buildup of this fight I gotta say there have been hardly any racial overtones. Now Saturday night when half of jolly old England is in Vegas drunk and angry because Pretty Boy Floyd put a whuppin on their boy then there may be some ish.
Peep the buildup to Cooney/Holmes in the early 80's, that fight had racial overtones.
Floyd as a fighter is unparalleled. Roy Jones in his prime against Floyd now that would be great.
As far as a promoter and marketer, Floyd is slightly above average. He talks a lot but his first huge purse (10 million plus) was his last fight and De La Hoya was just as much the reason for the big draw as Floyd. Floyd's style, classic boxing with stupendous defense, is not as pleasing to the casual boxing fan as say a Arturo Gatti or Diego Corrales (God Bless the Dead) who will bleed for their fans but not always win.
Aside fron these photos (are they photoshopped?) Oscar is THE MAN. Every fighter comes to him when they want a big payday, not the other way around. Floyd turned down 9 million with Antonio Margarito on the off chance that he and Oscar could make it happen and he made somewhere in the range of 25-30 million, while Oscar made oogobs more. Unlike a lot of boxer/promoters Oscar actually has former boxers in equity positions inside of the company and he actually runs his company like a business. I only wish Iron Mike could have done something like that when he was in his prime instead of having pathetic exhibition fights to pay off back taxes.
The photos of Oscar are fake. I'll give it to Oscar, he's never run from anyone, but he's also lost EVERY SINGLE BIG FIGHT OF HIS CAREER except El Feroz and Quartey.
Mosley (2x?)
Tito (though Oscar really won)
Mayweather
DV,
You asked if there was an attorney as good as Mayweather. Yeah, Johnnie Cochran, Reggie Gary, etc. Need more?
Mayweather knows how to promote. But he's an asshole.
Come on J,
Mayweather's an asshole. Kobe is an asshole. Fiddy is an asshole. Vick is an asshole. Snoop is an asshole. TO is an asshole.
You would have called Cassius Clay an asshole back in the day.
Why you hate on any brother who is not a little Thurgood Marshall?
I hate on brothas that feel they have to act out just to get attention from white people. I never said Vick was an asshole; he just made a BIG mistake. Never said Snoop was an asshole; he's just a mediocre rapper (but a good actor) who will coon for money when the checks stop coming in (See, "Soul Plane"). T.O. WAS an asshole but finally started acting like a man instead of the white man's slave boy. The Cowboys must've found him a good therapist. :-) Kobe is an asshole, but I love the fadeaway and the baseline play. Gonna teach that to Ike. Did you see the game against the Nuggets?
I wouldn't have hated on Ali because Ali was POLITICAL. Mayweather is just talkin' nonsense, dancing on "Dancing With The Stars," trying to be accepted by white people. But since he's black, he's your hero. That's actually insulting and part of the "GSWS-type thinking" if you ask me. "He's black, so I must back him up!" If that's the case, you should be backing negros like Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly.
Nah.
You misunderstand grasshopper.
I don't back him because he is black.
I back him because he is not a bitch.
There's a war on black men who love themselves. There's a bounty on the head of men who don't conform.
The Mayweather's, the Kobe's, the Iverson's, the Tupac's, the men you call ... assholes ... self affirm. They dare to dig themselves in public. That's a Crime Against Conformity.
If you love Kobe's fade away. You love Kobe. Because that's all you really know about him.
I hate on brothas that feel they have to act out just to get attention from white people.
So do I.
Barak Obama's speech to AIPAC -
"When Israel is attacked, we must stand up for Israel's legitimate right to defend itself.
"In the end, we also know that we should never seek to dictate what is best for the Israelis and their security interests. No Israeli prime minister should ever feel dragged to or blocked from the negotiating table by the United States."
"The world must work to stop Iran's uranium enrichment program and prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. It is far too dangerous to have nuclear weapons in the hands of a radical theocracy. And while we should take no option, including military action, off the table, sustained and aggressive diplomacy combined with tough sanctions should be our primary means to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
DV,
"I back him because he is not a bitch."
That's pretty vague. You gotta come tighter than that. I expect more. Just because a black man is screaming doesn't mean that he's screaming something meaningful, or that he's digging himself.
Give it a few more years, Mayweather will be crying to Barbara Walters about how fecked up his life is.
I've never hated on Iverson. . . just for the record. He's a husband and a father and a hellavu player.
And I know that Kobe demanded to be traded from a team and a city that backed him during his RAPE TRIAL.
II,
I'm not going to be put in the absurd position of defending Obama's speech to AIPAC like DV has put himself in the absurd position of defending Mayweather's antics.
Defend him?
Not necessary. Simply applying the same standard across the board.
If trying to please White people is the standard for criticism, which Black men wouldn't be "white man's slave boys" in your book?
Damn, that was from Obama's speech to Aipac?!?! Sorry I missed that, but I probably did it on purpose becuase I'm about to blow chunks.
Can we imagine his lips uttering those phrases about any other sovereign state??
MJB,
He's said so much silliness in appeasement of AIPAC, it's hard to choose among the quotes. That man will coon in a heartbeat for them. Kinda like Morehouse did when they revoked the invite for Farrakhan to speak.
II,
You don't know a damn thing about Morehouse. Prolly don't even know what city its in.
I know enough to know Moorehouse revoked the invitation to Farrakhan as soon as it displeased some White people. What else is there?
You're way too sensitive J.
Not sensitive at all. Didn't mean to come off that way. Just kickin' facts.
Facts? That's funny.... LOL!!
You still haven't answered the earlier question -
If trying to please White people is the standard for criticism, which Black men wouldn't be "white man's slave boys" in your book?
None. We'd ALL be included in that, including II, Big J and Denmark.
"None. We'd ALL be included in that, including II, Big J and Denmark."
SSShhhhiiitttt .....
At least we're getting somewhere.
I hate on brothas that feel they have to act out just to get attention from white people.
Since, according to you, there is no Black man who isn't tryin to please White people, does that mean you are hatin' on ALL Black people?
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