Mr. Fisher, I hope she is but you never really know. I've retired my jersey, but I know when I was in the game, I was the flirt who ended up taking it to the next level. I was greedy when it came to woman. Karma is a bitch and I'm trying my best to run from her. I'm going to focus on being loyal and committed and being the best man I can be, but I am a littler nervous knowing the divorce stats (divorce is expensive among other things). I'm convinced she's preparing for marriage. We'll see...
not enough time here to go into detail but suffice it to say that when you really love someone you mary them; not the idea of them, not the TV version of them, not the "hopefully after marriage they will be different them" just them.
so whoever she is, whatever you see, glimpse or have tripped over in the dark, know that it might still be there in 3, 5,7 years. be ready to love and accept that now and forever.
but because it is the only thing that's sure, change is bound to take place, but don't place your bets on those changes falling any certain way.
Paul said... "This song would have been my theme song when I was 22."
Yeah.
Thing is ... I can't think of too many songs that totally encapsulate my life at any given point in time. I can relate to many different types of music. I like whatever is clever and soulful.
Paul said... "I'm going to focus on being loyal and committed and being the best man I can be, but I am a littler nervous knowing the divorce stats "
I like that Paul.
However, I'm going to tell you this. Be careful how you define 'loyal' and 'committed'. I've always felt my loyalty and commitment to my woman was expressed beyond what I happened to do with my Johnson.
Even back in the days when I slipped up and got some ... I challenged her to find a cat more loyal committed than me.
I see where my man Mr. Fisher is advising you to get the 'prenup'.
Man, fuck all that.
I'm not even going to pretend like some man made law on paper is going to regulate what goes on between me and my wife.
Our prenup is this: Shit goes sideways, one of us going to die.
"Our prenup is this: Shit goes sideways, one of us going to die."
That's exactly why you need a prenup, Paul.
If one dies, the other goes to prison and the little ones end up who knows where.
A prenup is not just protection for each other, but also protection for your future kids.
Should you, God forbid, end up in divorce court, you are likely to burn up all of your assets fighting.
These assets need to be preserved so they can be passed on to your children so that they don't have to start from zero as most black children had to since slavery.
The prenup is mandatory. I have more than one business at stake. Sanity is difficult. If I had to turn over some of the shares in a divorce I would probably loose the sanity I have.
If I didn't co-own businesses I think I would be different. Prepare for the worst and expect the best. You're only in control of yourself (and even that is sometimes difficult). The premise is similar to home insurance. Of course I would never want anything to happen. Hopefully I would never have to use my insurance, but just in case some ass hole breaks into my house...or....something in the foundation is not right and causes all kinds of problems.... I'm covered.
I'm sure very few divorced couples thought they would ever get a divorce on their wedding day. Among college educated couples, 90% of divorces are filed by woman. THAT STAT IS PHENOMENAL. Every person I know that is divorced, the woman left the man.
That's why college educated and employed black men tend NOT to get married these days. Statistical research proved it. Fact is, it's the unemployed and institutionalized black men who are getting married in droves.
my take is, a woman marrying a man who demands a prenup is marrying him BECAUSE he has money. any woman with any self respect and an ounce of dignity woud say "no, thank you."
she is not a house, or an inanimate object. she is a human. someone you promise to love, share with and grow beside.
the woman who is in it for the dough will know how to get it WHILE you are married to her. she will have no reason to wait for hers at the end of the run.
a hustlin broad has nothing to lose even with a prenup in place.
again, i don't know her but women like me would rather sit sideline in that game.
Brother Mike is distorting the truth like a NeoCon.
DV's wife is home making organic cookies, loving her 3 children and happy as a sissy in jail.
Jasai's children are beautiful, healthy and smart. Her husband is one of the most evolved, settled cat's I've ever met.
Now, you can take advice from two happily married people. Or you can take advice from a man whose wife bust him in the head and tried to screw him in court.
Fact is, had I married Mike's wife, she too would be home making organic cookies, loving her children and happy as a sissy in jail.
I'm not worried about money. It's hard to avoid being screwed when it comes to money. I just want to protect my ownership in my businesses. I've never been able to paint a perfect picture and the one thing I know about people is they tend to disappoint me.
I guess Paul McCartney was a real man...huh?
Never conceptually understood alimony after divorce. Since she's "accustomed" to the money...what about the man being "accustomed" to the punany?
you are going in with way too many reservations...
that's my take.
I bet you would never enter a business deal with this many reservations. It's the same thing. more business than peole like to admit. business and personal growth. the rest is just sitcom bullshit.
I would never enter a business deal without a contract.
Marriage is probably the biggest decision I'll ever make but this has nothing to do with her or how I feel about marriage. My prenup will be null and void as long as we're married. Hopefully it will remain meaningless forever ever ever.
I didnt even weigh in on the prenup or marriage issue Mike. So I'm declining response at this point.
My only contribution to the conversation was to note what is so clearly evident. Your first comment on this blog was about being the nigga "that sat by the door." Most subsequent comments make their way back to how psycho your ex wife was. Couple this with how you casually brush off the fact that your daughter is not being raised with enough female influences and then crucify mothers raising sons in a corresponding environment and what do you get....ISSUES!
"crucify mothers raising sons in a corresponding environment and what do you get..."
Aside from the other nonsense you just stated, where was I "crucifying mothers"? I said women (in most cases, if not all) can not teach a boy how to be a man. That's not blaming anyone.
It's like saying fish generally don't fly, or 1+1=2. I don't blame fish for not flying. I'd only be somewhat concerned if the fish CLAIMED they could fly. Or I'd be concerned with someone's mental state if that someone insisted that 1+1=3.
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43 comments:
This song would have been my theme song when I was 22.
Now I'm a little older....preparing myself for marriage...I'm not really feelin' the lyrics which are anti-commitment, anti-loyalty.
Flirts don't matter if your girl is loyal. If she ain't all your loyalty just makes you a loyal sucka.
So, make sure SHE's prepared for marriage.
Mr. Fisher, I hope she is but you never really know. I've retired my jersey, but I know when I was in the game, I was the flirt who ended up taking it to the next level. I was greedy when it came to woman. Karma is a bitch and I'm trying my best to run from her. I'm going to focus on being loyal and committed and being the best man I can be, but I am a littler nervous knowing the divorce stats (divorce is expensive among other things). I'm convinced she's preparing for marriage. We'll see...
if you do you paul, you wont ned to 'worry' about her.
it is well. no matter what.
the journey is the thing.
frankly, i'm a married flirt.
flirting and fleeing are very different.
not enough time here to go into detail but suffice it to say that when you really love someone you mary them; not the idea of them, not the TV version of them, not the "hopefully after marriage they will be different them" just them.
so whoever she is, whatever you see, glimpse or have tripped over in the dark, know that it might still be there in 3, 5,7 years. be ready to love and accept that now and forever.
but because it is the only thing that's sure, change is bound to take place, but don't place your bets on those changes falling any certain way.
love and be there for your own personal growth.
"it is well. no matter what.
the journey is the thing."
"frankly, i'm a married flirt.
flirting and fleeing are very different."
Paul. Do a prenup.
i am also not paul's wife-to-be. he knows who she is.
maybe that's your problem uncle mike. you think we are all alike. that is a quite immature (or inexperienced) perspective.
my husband is very clear and a-okay with who he married.
and if i do say so, he scored. all around.
Paul said...
"This song would have been my theme song when I was 22."
Yeah.
Thing is ... I can't think of too many songs that totally encapsulate my life at any given point in time. I can relate to many different types of music. I like whatever is clever and soulful.
R. Kelly is one of the best who has ever done it.
Paul said... "I'm going to focus on being loyal and committed and being the best man I can be, but I am a littler nervous knowing the divorce stats "
I like that Paul.
However, I'm going to tell you this. Be careful how you define 'loyal' and 'committed'. I've always felt my loyalty and commitment to my woman was expressed beyond what I happened to do with my Johnson.
Even back in the days when I slipped up and got some ... I challenged her to find a cat more loyal committed than me.
I see where my man Mr. Fisher is advising you to get the 'prenup'.
Man, fuck all that.
I'm not even going to pretend like some man made law on paper is going to regulate what goes on between me and my wife.
Our prenup is this: Shit goes sideways, one of us going to die.
"Our prenup is this: Shit goes sideways, one of us going to die."
That's exactly why you need a prenup, Paul.
If one dies, the other goes to prison and the little ones end up who knows where.
A prenup is not just protection for each other, but also protection for your future kids.
Should you, God forbid, end up in divorce court, you are likely to burn up all of your assets fighting.
These assets need to be preserved so they can be passed on to your children so that they don't have to start from zero as most black children had to since slavery.
"maybe that's your problem uncle mike. you think we are all alike. that is a quite immature (or inexperienced) perspective."
Jasai. Don't underestimate your drunk uncle. He's drunk for a reason. (Burp)
"I challenged her to find a cat more loyal committed than me."
So how's her search coming along, DV?
(Burp). Damn... hick ups.
The prenup is mandatory. I have more than one business at stake. Sanity is difficult. If I had to turn over some of the shares in a divorce I would probably loose the sanity I have.
Good for you. If she love you she'll accept that.
i would never marry am man who is planning on how our divore will go.
Jasai...
Question: How is a prenup a plan for divorce?
When one gets married one engages in a legal contract. Why can't the terms of that contract not be negotiated?
What's the objection? Is it about the money?
If I didn't co-own businesses I think I would be different. Prepare for the worst and expect the best. You're only in control of yourself (and even that is sometimes difficult). The premise is similar to home insurance. Of course I would never want anything to happen. Hopefully I would never have to use my insurance, but just in case some ass hole breaks into my house...or....something in the foundation is not right and causes all kinds of problems.... I'm covered.
I'm sure very few divorced couples thought they would ever get a divorce on their wedding day. Among college educated couples, 90% of divorces are filed by woman. THAT STAT IS PHENOMENAL. Every person I know that is divorced, the woman left the man.
That's why college educated and employed black men tend NOT to get married these days. Statistical research proved it. Fact is, it's the unemployed and institutionalized black men who are getting married in droves.
Mike, Paul
Jasai is right.
Men and women have been marrying each other for over 50,000 years of human evolution.
This need for a "prenup" is what - 20 years old?
Marriages work when you decide to make them work. Anything less is just playing house.
At the end of the day, any man NEEDING a prenup - is a punk.
If you can't handle your woman, leave her alone.
my take is, a woman marrying a man who demands a prenup is marrying him BECAUSE he has money. any woman with any self respect and an ounce of dignity woud say "no, thank you."
she is not a house, or an inanimate object. she is a human. someone you promise to love, share with and grow beside.
the woman who is in it for the dough will know how to get it WHILE you are married to her. she will have no reason to wait for hers at the end of the run.
a hustlin broad has nothing to lose even with a prenup in place.
again, i don't know her but women like me would rather sit sideline in that game.
mike......
you're single. i'm not confused about why.
Paul, consider:
DV's wife is out looking for a more loyal cat, Jasai had a baby from a fool, and I'mma your drunk uncle.
Drunk Uncle Mike says: Get a mofo prenup. (Burp)
Nah Paul,
Brother Mike is distorting the truth like a NeoCon.
DV's wife is home making organic cookies, loving her 3 children and happy as a sissy in jail.
Jasai's children are beautiful, healthy and smart. Her husband is one of the most evolved, settled cat's I've ever met.
Now, you can take advice from two happily married people. Or you can take advice from a man whose wife bust him in the head and tried to screw him in court.
Fact is, had I married Mike's wife, she too would be home making organic cookies, loving her children and happy as a sissy in jail.
Prenups don't make marriages work. Men do.
Oh, please marry the woman. You want her number?
Paull, conschida:
DV DINKKS hish wiffe isch (hicks) home bakkin' cookies. (burp). Jasai schtill had a babeee vrom a fool., an..I'mma schtill yoa drunk uncle.
Ger a mofo prenup. (burp)
Drunk Uncle MiKe.
LOL. That's some funny shit Mike.
What's your wife's number?
I'll holla at her and get to the bottom of this. (I'm in Atlanta today)
We'll see if everything is her ... "her fault".
"Jasai schtill had a babeee vrom a fool."
I was 18 and fresh out the gate. what is your excuse? you're like what....58? and it seems you have yet to shop for clues.
DV...
She's in NY. And she'll have you convinced that I'm the devil incarnate.
Unless you promise to marry her and get her out of my hair, eaah, make that scalp, you ain't getting the number. If yes, you got it.
Jasai...
The point is...
Those who sit in glass houses shouldn't throw with stones.
Drunk Uncle Mike (sober for a minite)
my house is solid.
trust.
but you should watch out, here comes a brick!
DV are you tyrant when it comes to your wife?
No comments on woman filing 90% divorces stat?
I'm not worried about money. It's hard to avoid being screwed when it comes to money. I just want to protect my ownership in my businesses. I've never been able to paint a perfect picture and the one thing I know about people is they tend to disappoint me.
I guess Paul McCartney was a real man...huh?
Never conceptually understood alimony after divorce. Since she's "accustomed" to the money...what about the man being "accustomed" to the punany?
you are going in with way too many reservations...
that's my take.
I bet you would never enter a business deal with this many reservations. It's the same thing. more business than peole like to admit. business and personal growth. the rest is just sitcom bullshit.
I would never enter a business deal without a contract.
Marriage is probably the biggest decision I'll ever make but this has nothing to do with her or how I feel about marriage. My prenup will be null and void as long as we're married. Hopefully it will remain meaningless forever ever ever.
"what about the man being "accustomed" to the punany?" ROFLMAO
Im late but Stevie Wonder can see Mike's issues with women! Dont let him be your guide Paul. Let her be your guide.
paul said...
"DV are you tyrant when it comes to your wife?"
Nah man. I'm yang when it comes to my wife.
Men who are anything less need prenups.
Paul, if you half as sharp as I think you are, you will leave the Econ 001 Business 2.0 psychobabble alone and marry your girl.
Man up. Make it work because you decide to make it work.
"Stevie Wonder can see Mike's issues with women!"
Me? Naw. I love women. I'm just not stupid. People are people, ya know.
People make mistakes. Prenups help prevent mistakes.
Let me ask you this, Jasai and Robyn. If trust is all that is needed, why get into a binding legal arrangement in the first place?
Why not just live together?
too much TV.
I didnt even weigh in on the prenup or marriage issue Mike. So I'm declining response at this point.
My only contribution to the conversation was to note what is so clearly evident. Your first comment on this blog was about being the nigga "that sat by the door." Most subsequent comments make their way back to how psycho your ex wife was. Couple this with how you casually brush off the fact that your daughter is not being raised with enough female influences and then crucify mothers raising sons in a corresponding environment and what do you get....ISSUES!
"crucify mothers raising sons in a corresponding environment and what do you get..."
Aside from the other nonsense you just stated, where was I "crucifying mothers"? I said women (in most cases, if not all) can not teach a boy how to be a man. That's not blaming anyone.
It's like saying fish generally don't fly, or 1+1=2. I don't blame fish for not flying. I'd only be somewhat concerned if the fish CLAIMED they could fly. Or I'd be concerned with someone's mental state if that someone insisted that 1+1=3.
nice analogy Mike!
i would beg to differ about how you have framed the issue in past posts but nonetheless....
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