But that ain't the issue here. The issue is that she is using sex as a tool of power. A no, no. This is why you never break your bridges to your ex-girlfriends.
She uses sex like that? Off he goes to Lil'Lady around the way.
What Joe Budden is doing is brilliant here. Just by using his own camera and filming these briefs snippets from his life, he's created a buzz online bigger than anything a clueless dinosaur record label could do for him.
And she (Tahiry) recently got a spread in KING mag based solely on her appearances here, so it's working out pretty good for her as well. If any of these execs had sense, they'd contacted him for a reality show deal a long time ago.
As per the question, I think girls shouldn't be taught that sex is a weapon or tool for them to use. Unfortunately, it's one of those things they inevitably learn once they realize that damn near every guy they meet wants to sleep with them, and a pretty good chunk of them will do anything to do it. She's of course entitled to say no, but she shouldn't go about it like that.
This self-promoting gimp is aware that he's being an asshole, but plays the a-hole role just the same.
This is the type of infantile nonsense that gets fools hit, cheated on, and stabbed. It's the type of infantile, self-indulgent shit that has divorce rates soaring through the roof.
If she says no and he takes it that is called rape. I cannot see the graphic you have attached but No means No. And if a man takes it from a woman who is unwilling HE is using sex as a weapon!
(I take it you can't see the video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPn1dxuarZ0
But ...
Come on now. Let's examine your premise: If a woman "says" no, and they end up having sex ... is it really = RAPE. Like 10 - 20 years in Federal Prison Rape?
I don't know about that.
I aint heard "no" in a while ... ;-} ...
But when I did encounter the rare "no", it often became an enthusiastic "Yes! Yes! Yes! Please! Don't! Stop!" leg shaking extravaganza.
Let's not pretend what a woman "says" is law.
Rape is one of the most horrible things a man can do.
We shouldn't use that word to describe every convoluted sexual encounter between a man and a woman that doesn't go down like a Hallmark movie on the Lifetime channel.
Why do you care about divorces?Why Ronald, because I don't want you out running them skreets and trying rape uncooperative skrippers after Mrs. Barr tells you that she's not interested in one of your little drunk and fumbling thirty second specials....,
Come on now. Let's examine your premise: If a woman "says" no, and they end up having sex ... is it really = RAPE. Like 10 - 20 years in Federal Prison Rape?You've got it all wrong DV. I didn't mean nor say that. I meant that a man should not pursue sexual encounter once a woman says no and if he TAKES it, as you've termed it YES that is rape. Rape specifically means taking something that doesn't belong to you. If a woman OR man says NO to sexual advances and is not willing to engage, that is rape.
Incidentally, I read about a Russian hairdresser who kidnapped her would be robber, kept him in a closet for 48 hours, pumped him with viagra and raped him. He had to go to the hospital for injuries to his sexual organs. He did not consent at least mentally, despite the viagra (one could say that was a reflex).
Unfortunately I do have personal experience with rape and this is no laughing matter nor is it some concoction by man hating feminazis.
Maybeeee...I dunno, I'm a girl! Convince me. Not RIGHT NOW, but maybe later (like in a minute) Just keep rubbing, licking & sucking until I say yes. Yes, but I'm gonna play harder to get than that! So keep trying. "No" is just my default reflex answer. It's your job to flip it on like a light switch.
Secondly, Joe's got some game. Maybe not quite, DV/Big Wayne level but he understands women, and has been with enough to realize that the P ain't no prize. It's free. It's abundant. (Well, Big Wayne speaks for himself)
The same cats on here talking about he's an Ahole, or disrespectful are the same cats who say there is never an excuse to lay hands on a woman. They don't understand women.
They don't understand that "I don't normally do this.." means "I'll do whatever you want me to do".
They don't understand that the chick in the video really did want to get down, but her refusal was a (well disguised) emotional response to his having been out partying without her.
They don't understand that "No" often means " I will if you pursue a little harder". It's a cat and mouse. The players may change, but the game stays the same.
Should he take it? No. Should he pursue a little harder? Absolutely.
I understand women like a babyboy understands women.
and,
I understand women like a man understands women.
I choose to interact with women like the latter, rather than the former.
That babyboy shit works wonders for getting mommy to put a titty in your mouth, or for wearing her down to get her to buy you a toy.
A man simply chooses not to role like that.
So come crunch time, when emotions are frayed and tempers really really flare, who you think a woman has the nerve to try and hit, hmmmm?
See, a babyboy has laid down a foundation of getting the taste slapped out of his mouth because, well, he never acted like a man in the first place, and that's what you sometimes have to do to get a babyboy to stop his infantile shit.
It's all downhill from there, because, well, an infantile motherfocker living a man-sized body has no qualms about knuckling up on a woman.
That's how bitchazzed lollybeezies do....,
A man on the other hand,
one who lives as a man at all times in a man's body?
He's already built a foundation of mutual respect and grown restraint.
Instead of having to act like mommy with a man, a man facilitates the woman acting like a woman, period.
Mutual respect.
Not an infantile to adult type dynamic.
Because of that fact, it never even occurs to a woman to try and strike a man.
See the difference?
Prolly not.
Maybe in due time you just grow out of confusing babyboy shit with "understanding women"?
It's probably just one of those things that had to be role-modeled for you your entire life growing up. If you played the babyboy your entire life, and no one modeled the man role for you to emulate, it may just not be part of your repertoire....,
Cnu..My man. I am always so impressed with your writing that I rarely want to take an opposing stance, as even if the factual basis for my thesis far outweighs yours, your ability to relay complex concepts so far outweighs mine that even I might start to sway from my own well supported position in favor of yours.
Here, however, we can duke it out.
When my grandpappy came home late from working on the railroad tracks and wanted a little lovin from granny, what you think happened? I'll give you a hint. She had nine kids.
Big Wayne was raised in a nuclear family the only son of four. With a strong mother and a father who NEVER put hands on her. If there is one thing Big Wayne understands, it's women. He understands that a man is not complete without a woman. He understands the role Michelle played in helping to elect our current president. He understands that the number one factor a woman looks for in choosing her mate, is his ability to make her feel safe. While running the risk of sounding uber chauvanistic, he also understands that men are the dominant gender.
Somewhere in between The Jeffersons and Sex and the City, the lines to this fact got blurred. I'm like George Jefferson, you're like Miranda's husband.
You see Big Wayne was one of those cats who, let's just say, didn't want for much in the way of female companionship. You know the kind of dude who could lock eyes with a beautiful woman from across the room one minute, and be opening up a new toothbrush for her in the morning. Big Wayne loved the ladies and the ladies loved Big Wayne. So much so that when he finally found his queen and officially closed up shop, the collective sound of hearts breaking could be heard from LA to DC. (I also blame myself for the sharp increase in same sex female relationships which began in the early part of the decade..but that's another story)
Back on track: Big Wayne wan't so successful with women because of his rugged good looks or his denzel swag (although those qualities certainly didn't hurt) Big Wayne was successful with women for one sole reason. Because HE KNEW HIS VALUE. He knew where he stood amongst his peers and that his total package was more desireable than that of most of them. Big Wayne was confident in who he'd become. He knew that no matter how he pissed off his woman, it most likely wouldn't be worth her risk of exiting the relationship for the slim prospect of something better. Just as does Joe.
He had been raised with and by so many women, that he was afforded the rare ability to actually think like one.
He saw first hand how women "evened the playing field" with weaker men by using their feminity as bargaining tool, and swore early on that he would never be so easily controlled.
He witnessed early and often the cat and mouse dynamic which has existed between men and women since the dawn of time.
Baby boy? Big Wayne is not.
" It's all downhill from there, because, well, an infantile motherfocker living a man-sized body has no qualms about knuckling up on a woman."
This is where we agree. Your boy would never suggest knuckling up on a woman ala Chris Brown. I wasn't raised that way. I do, however reserve the right to restraint, mush, or shake the hell out of a woman.
You're prolly more of a "Yes Dear, I'm right on it Dear" type of cat,
While, I'm more of a " Aight, baby. I'll get to it when I get time" type of cat.
No disrespect.
But, you see the difference?
Check it. I hold monthly seminars at the Sheraton LAX called "Game's Recognition of Itself". Two hours. $65. The room fills up fast. But because you my man, your first session is on the house.
I know UBM. This is unprecedented. But there's a 1st time for everything. Wanna know why I respect CNu so much? It's Because he can write circles around me and he knows it. He could school me on nuclear proliferation, splitting the humane genome, and probably most aspects of the political spectrum. With all his intellect, knowledge and writing acumen, he could have attempted some long winded wordy, though logical, response which wouldn't have been quite as compelling, but would have sounded hella smart. He didn't choose to go that route. He recognized game. It takes a certain level of security in one's self to do this.
When I get out-argued on this blog, I will gladly condede a point. But that has yet to occur.
You greatly overestimate Nulan's skills, Big Wayne. Cat has definitely read a lot of books... but he hasn't yet demonstrated that he can synthesize all of this knowledge into cleanly written, clearly understood points of argument.
Craig is quite a graceless writer... and not a very impressive thinker.
She ain't obligated.
ReplyDeleteBut that ain't the issue here. The issue is that she is using sex as a tool of power. A no, no. This is why you never break your bridges to your ex-girlfriends.
She uses sex like that? Off he goes to Lil'Lady around the way.
She tells him to go jerk off.
ReplyDeleteI bet if he does and she sees him paying too much attention to another girl - on video - then this will be seen as "cheating" as well.
Ask cnulan - he has this problem. He has so many "hand babies" all over the neighborhood.
What Joe Budden is doing is brilliant here. Just by using his own camera and filming these briefs snippets from his life, he's created a buzz online bigger than anything a clueless dinosaur record label could do for him.
ReplyDeleteAnd she (Tahiry) recently got a spread in KING mag based solely on her appearances here, so it's working out pretty good for her as well. If any of these execs had sense, they'd contacted him for a reality show deal a long time ago.
As per the question, I think girls shouldn't be taught that sex is a weapon or tool for them to use. Unfortunately, it's one of those things they inevitably learn once they realize that damn near every guy they meet wants to sleep with them, and a pretty good chunk of them will do anything to do it. She's of course entitled to say no, but she shouldn't go about it like that.
*Cringes at self* Ghah, i'm an English major, for God's sake.
ReplyDelete"working out pretty WELL" I meant, of course...
This self-promoting gimp is aware that he's being an asshole, but plays the a-hole role just the same.
ReplyDeleteThis is the type of infantile nonsense that gets fools hit, cheated on, and stabbed. It's the type of infantile, self-indulgent shit that has divorce rates soaring through the roof.
she's the one "frontin"!?!?!?!?
ReplyDeleterotflmao....,
[quote]This is the type of infantile nonsense that gets fools hit, cheated on, and stabbed.[/quote]
ReplyDeleteThis is what we have to look forward to when all guns are banned. Knife attacks!
[quote]It's the type of infantile, self-indulgent shit that has divorce rates soaring through the roof.[/quote]
Divorce Rates?
When marriage is liberated people won't be "divorcing" because they won't be getting married in the first place.
Why do you care about divorces?
04 20 09
ReplyDeleteIf she says no and he takes it that is called rape. I cannot see the graphic you have attached but No means No. And if a man takes it from a woman who is unwilling HE is using sex as a weapon!
I hear you Madame Mahndisa.
ReplyDelete(I take it you can't see the video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPn1dxuarZ0
But ...
Come on now. Let's examine your premise: If a woman "says" no, and they end up having sex ... is it really = RAPE. Like 10 - 20 years in Federal Prison Rape?
I don't know about that.
I aint heard "no" in a while ... ;-} ...
But when I did encounter the rare "no", it often became an enthusiastic "Yes! Yes! Yes! Please! Don't! Stop!" leg shaking extravaganza.
Let's not pretend what a woman "says" is law.
Rape is one of the most horrible things a man can do.
We shouldn't use that word to describe every convoluted sexual encounter between a man and a woman that doesn't go down like a Hallmark movie on the Lifetime channel.
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ReplyDeleteWhy do you care about divorces?Why Ronald, because I don't want you out running them skreets and trying rape uncooperative skrippers after Mrs. Barr tells you that she's not interested in one of your little drunk and fumbling thirty second specials....,
ReplyDelete04 20 09
ReplyDeleteCome on now. Let's examine your premise: If a woman "says" no, and they end up having sex ... is it really = RAPE. Like 10 - 20 years in Federal Prison Rape?You've got it all wrong DV. I didn't mean nor say that. I meant that a man should not pursue sexual encounter once a woman says no and if he TAKES it, as you've termed it YES that is rape. Rape specifically means taking something that doesn't belong to you. If a woman OR man says NO to sexual advances and is not willing to engage, that is rape.
Incidentally, I read about a Russian hairdresser who kidnapped her would be robber, kept him in a closet for 48 hours, pumped him with viagra and raped him. He had to go to the hospital for injuries to his sexual organs. He did not consent at least mentally, despite the viagra (one could say that was a reflex).
Unfortunately I do have personal experience with rape and this is no laughing matter nor is it some concoction by man hating feminazis.
I'm going to have to give you that one Mahndisa. Rape aint no laughing matter.
ReplyDelete"No means No."
ReplyDeleteHave you ever said no at first to something, then got your mind changed with a little persuasion? And ended up enjoying it and glad you did?
Yes or no?
yes
ReplyDelete^ Then, "no doesn't really always mean no," now does it?
ReplyDeleteFor women, sometimes "no" means:
ReplyDeleteMaybeeee...I dunno, I'm a girl! Convince me.
Not RIGHT NOW, but maybe later (like in a minute)
Just keep rubbing, licking & sucking until I say yes.
Yes, but I'm gonna play harder to get than that! So keep trying.
"No" is just my default reflex answer. It's your job to flip it on like a light switch.
She's not legally obligated, but if she wants to keep him around, she betta give it up. Put them knees to the chest!
ReplyDeleteThis negro is triflin...
ReplyDeleteand that is where he's got it twisted...he sits back and says that p@#sy is not a prize.
Your body is a prize...
He's mad niggerish and disrespectful. Boo.
If they ain't married, she ain't obligated.
ReplyDeleteIf they are, it's a different story, if they are operating under God's law.
But, both of them are wrong. She's vagina as weapon, and he's trying to justify his actions by the actions of someone else.
This is actually a pretty typical male female interaction.
First and foremost. Rape is no joking matter.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, Joe's got some game. Maybe not quite, DV/Big Wayne level but he understands women, and has been with enough to realize that the P ain't no prize. It's free. It's abundant. (Well, Big Wayne speaks for himself)
The same cats on here talking about he's an Ahole, or disrespectful are the same cats who say there is never an excuse to lay hands on a woman. They don't understand women.
They don't understand that "I don't normally do this.." means "I'll do whatever you want me to do".
They don't understand that the chick in the video really did want to get down, but her refusal was a (well disguised) emotional response to his having been out partying without her.
They don't understand that "No" often means " I will if you pursue a little harder". It's a cat and mouse. The players may change, but the game stays the same.
Should he take it? No. Should he pursue a little harder? Absolutely.
" It's free. It's abundant."
ReplyDeleteShould read:
"It WAS free. It WAS abundant"
Lol.
Sorry 'bout that baby.
Big Wayne,
ReplyDeleteyou funny...,
I understand women like a babyboy understands women.
and,
I understand women like a man understands women.
I choose to interact with women like the latter, rather than the former.
That babyboy shit works wonders for getting mommy to put a titty in your mouth, or for wearing her down to get her to buy you a toy.
A man simply chooses not to role like that.
So come crunch time, when emotions are frayed and tempers really really flare, who you think a woman has the nerve to try and hit, hmmmm?
See, a babyboy has laid down a foundation of getting the taste slapped out of his mouth because, well, he never acted like a man in the first place, and that's what you sometimes have to do to get a babyboy to stop his infantile shit.
It's all downhill from there, because, well, an infantile motherfocker living a man-sized body has no qualms about knuckling up on a woman.
That's how bitchazzed lollybeezies do....,
A man on the other hand,
one who lives as a man at all times in a man's body?
He's already built a foundation of mutual respect and grown restraint.
Instead of having to act like mommy with a man, a man facilitates the woman acting like a woman, period.
Mutual respect.
Not an infantile to adult type dynamic.
Because of that fact, it never even occurs to a woman to try and strike a man.
See the difference?
Prolly not.
Maybe in due time you just grow out of confusing babyboy shit with "understanding women"?
It's probably just one of those things that had to be role-modeled for you your entire life growing up. If you played the babyboy your entire life, and no one modeled the man role for you to emulate, it may just not be part of your repertoire....,
Cnu..My man. I am always so impressed with your writing that I rarely want to take an opposing stance, as even if the factual basis for my thesis far outweighs yours, your ability to relay complex concepts so far outweighs mine that even I might start to sway from my own well supported position in favor of yours.
ReplyDeleteHere, however, we can duke it out.
When my grandpappy came home late from working on the railroad tracks and wanted a little lovin from granny, what you think happened? I'll give you a hint. She had nine kids.
Big Wayne was raised in a nuclear family the only son of four. With a strong mother and a father who NEVER put hands on her. If there is one thing Big Wayne understands, it's women. He understands that a man is not complete without a woman. He understands the role Michelle played in helping to elect our current president. He understands that the number one factor a woman looks for in choosing her mate, is his ability to make her feel safe. While running the risk of sounding uber chauvanistic, he also understands that men are the dominant gender.
Somewhere in between The Jeffersons
and Sex and the City, the lines to this fact got blurred. I'm like George Jefferson, you're like Miranda's husband.
You see Big Wayne was one of those cats who, let's just say, didn't want for much in the way of female companionship. You know the kind of dude who could lock eyes with a beautiful woman from across the room one minute, and be opening up a new toothbrush for her in the morning. Big Wayne loved the ladies and the ladies loved Big Wayne. So much so that when he finally found his queen and officially closed up shop, the collective sound of hearts breaking could be heard from LA to DC. (I also blame myself for the sharp increase in same sex female relationships which began in the early part of the decade..but that's another story)
Back on track:
Big Wayne wan't so successful with women because of his rugged good looks or his denzel swag (although those qualities certainly didn't hurt) Big Wayne was successful with women for one sole reason. Because HE KNEW HIS VALUE. He knew where he stood amongst his peers and that his total package was more desireable than that of most of them. Big Wayne was confident in who he'd become. He knew that no matter how he pissed off his woman, it most likely wouldn't be worth her risk of exiting the relationship for the slim prospect of something better. Just as does Joe.
He had been raised with and by so many women, that he was afforded the rare ability to actually think like one.
He saw first hand how women "evened the playing field" with weaker men by using their feminity as bargaining tool, and swore early on that he would never be so easily controlled.
He witnessed early and often the cat and mouse dynamic which has existed between men and women since the dawn of time.
Baby boy? Big Wayne is not.
" It's all downhill from there, because, well, an infantile motherfocker living a man-sized body has no qualms about knuckling up on a woman."
This is where we agree. Your boy would never suggest knuckling up on a woman ala Chris Brown. I wasn't raised that way. I do, however reserve the right to restraint, mush, or shake the hell out of a woman.
You're prolly more of a "Yes Dear, I'm right on it Dear" type of cat,
While, I'm more of a " Aight, baby. I'll get to it when I get time" type of cat.
No disrespect.
But, you see the difference?
Check it. I hold monthly seminars at the Sheraton LAX called "Game's Recognition of Itself". Two hours. $65. The room fills up fast. But because you my man, your first session is on the house.
Holla at ya boy.
You're prolly more of a "Yes Dear, I'm right on it Dear" type of cat,rotflmbao....,
ReplyDeletenot quite,
but your reply was so tight,
I humbly and respectfully concede the field.
No Mas Big Wayne,
no mas.....,
I humbly and respectfully concede the field.
ReplyDeleteI just shitted my pants reading that.
Got mad respect for you CNu.
ReplyDelete" I just shitted my pants reading that."
I know UBM. This is unprecedented. But there's a 1st time for everything. Wanna know why I respect CNu so much? It's Because he can write circles around me and he knows it. He could school me on nuclear proliferation, splitting the humane genome, and probably most aspects of the political spectrum. With all his intellect, knowledge and writing acumen, he could have attempted some long winded wordy, though logical, response which wouldn't have been quite as compelling, but would have sounded hella smart. He didn't choose to go that route. He recognized game. It takes a certain level of security in one's self to do this.
Does Mills have this capacity?
Does Mills have this capacity?
ReplyDeleteWhen I get out-argued on this blog, I will gladly condede a point. But that has yet to occur.
You greatly overestimate Nulan's skills, Big Wayne. Cat has definitely read a lot of books... but he hasn't yet demonstrated that he can synthesize all of this knowledge into cleanly written, clearly understood points of argument.
Craig is quite a graceless writer... and not a very impressive thinker.
" When I get out-argued on this blog, I will gladly condede a point. But that has yet to occur. "
ReplyDeleteFair enough.
If you take an opposing stance to mine on this topic, I will gladly oblige. You know where I stand. Get at me.
This is me directly challenging you.
This is me directly challenging you....knowing that you are a professional writer.
ReplyDeleteI'm not in opposition to anything you've written on this thread, Big Wayne.
ReplyDeleteBut since you got your chest out, why don't you weigh in on this here thread?
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ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteCraig is quite a graceless writer... and not a very impressive thinker.
ReplyDeleterotflmbao
hell hath no fury like an old faggot scorned...,
^ And, of course, there's the matter of his wit.
ReplyDeleteIt took you three tries to come up with "faggot," Craig?
ReplyDelete:-D
Had to < b r /> tag the comment so you wouldn't commence to crying about my inability to format text too...,
ReplyDelete^ I've been waiting for you to figure out that that's useful to do.
ReplyDeleteBig Wayne
ReplyDeleteCNu
Undercover Black Man ...
I love ya'll brothers.
Muhfuggas need to be on TV.
Fuck a DL Hugley