"Marriage is our last, best chance to grow up"Simone Signoret
jasai said...
interestingly enough robyn it's that more often than anything else.
and if people trip themselves up with indignation, and anger and wanting something else when it doesn't look like it does in the movies, they will be indignant, angry and wanting, a lot of the time.
interestingly enough robyn it's that more often than anything else.and if people trip themselves up with indignation, and anger and wanting something else when it doesn't look like it does in the movies, they will be indignant, angry and wanting, a lot of the time.
- marriage is primarily about flow. learning to get in it and move with it, wherever it goes and however it feels.
Grow up into what ?
ReplyDeleteAnother good one DV!!!!!! Based on that picture alone, i'm voting for him!
ReplyDeleteskip.
ReplyDeleteskip.
feel love.
Thanks beauty.
ReplyDeleteMan, I love them. She holds him down.
ReplyDeleteSkip,
ReplyDeleteFor all the close-mindedness you attribute to DV, you might consider that you are functioning in the same way, but holding onto other issues. I don't know you, obviously, but you might consider opening your mind to marriage as more than a "social construct." My relationship with my wife changed me so much for the better than I think about it for at least an hour everyday.
Peace to You.
Big J
skip sievert said...
ReplyDeleteGrow up into what ?
Something other than what you are now.
Which is something you atheists have always a hard time understanding.
I do understand that there are legal reasons to get married.
ReplyDeleteIdeally living with someone should be a totally free decision, not based on legal or economic entanglements.
A really good society is a free society where people can do as they please in regard to living arrangements.
My congratulations to any one that has a relationship that is good enough to trust and love someone enough to want to share the same space.
All here have probably noticed that I have never revealed much of any thing about my own personal situation.
That is to a purpose.
Thank you J.
Denmark, you have tried putting a lot of labels that do not really fit on me.
ReplyDeleteYou favor the word atheist.
I have never used that word to describe myself or the word agnostic, or used the word believer either.
It may be a mistake to pigeon hole people with your own concepts so easily, and readily.
skip said "It may be a mistake to pigeon hole people with your own concepts so easily, and readily."
ReplyDeletePlease practice what u preach. You tend to call those of us who are Believers "stupid, closed minded" and the list goes on and on.
much love
the good nurse
Good point Skip... Secondly, the real essense/importance of the institution is not saying "I do" that one time. I have been married briefly and frankly have more love, trust and faith in people other than the woman I said I do to. My point is having a true companion is more important than the act of cutting cake, getting gifts and legally sharing half ;) Remember more than half of these so called wonderful situations end with major grief in one's life. So congrats to those who for now are keeping it together and good luck in the future. But face it not everyone is capable of being married. It's not for everyone.
ReplyDeleteI don't have an idealistic view of marriage...I just know it's what YOU make it. And apparently Casper, you know (or knew) that your heart isn't or wasn't in it because you trust outsiders more than your partner. I don't know what your reasoning is but it sounds to me like your marriage was over before it began.
ReplyDeleteGood one Casper, and yes we have to deal with the world as it changes, and it changes enough to make us rethink our stance on things sometimes.
ReplyDeleteStephani, a good society does not concern itself to much with what people believe.
There is no accounting for belief.
Maybe Ericka... but I am with the girl of my dreams and marriage is not in our plans. She really doesn't want it. All we need is LOVE and RESPECT! Not all current marriages have that.
ReplyDeleteLove and Respect provides us the best chance to grow-up!
Casper: my bad, I misunderstood before. You "were" married briefly...not still married to that untrustworthy person :-) In your case, I understand because after doing it once and it not working out so well, I wouldn't be so quick to marry again either. Love and respect.
ReplyDeleteLike most things in life that are "successful," marriage begins with an abiding COMMITTMENT. If both people don't have it, it won't work.
ReplyDeletePeople nowadays don't understand the meaning of the word "committment." It ain't about romance; it's about a mutually-beneficial survival strategy. The romance comes and goes.
Big J
J, I'd like to think of it as more than a "mutually-beneficial survival strategy."
ReplyDeleteinterestingly enough robyn it's that more often than anything else.
ReplyDeleteand if people trip themselves up with indignation, and anger and wanting something else when it doesn't look like it does in the movies, they will be indignant, angry and wanting, a lot of the time.
marriage is primarily about flow. learning to get in it and move with it, wherever it goes and however it feels.
Dang, DV. Jasai looks something like HER?
ReplyDeleteYou got an older twin sister Jasai?
Much older...
ReplyDeletelol!
ReplyDeletedv is quite creative.
but alas, i am the only berry in the bunch. my father would not have survived otherwise.
Jasai apparently got a makeover.
ReplyDeleteRobyn,
ReplyDeletethat's not all it is, but that's a large part of it.